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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-11 15:36:50 Reply

Shouldn't it be determined who exactly poisened him before jumping to actions that will have severe consequences. For all we know his own people are poisining him just to make his opponet look bad.


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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-11 15:37:45 Reply

Well, that's a side of the story I hadn't heard yet.


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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-11 16:00:55 Reply

At 12/11/04 03:36 PM, BeFell wrote: Shouldn't it be determined who exactly poisened him before jumping to actions that will have severe consequences. For all we know his own people are poisining him just to make his opponet look bad.

And for all we know, a member of the local government did it. Aren't they they the one's who denied for month's that Yushenko was poisoned?


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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-11 16:12:14 Reply

At 12/11/04 04:00 PM, Proteas wrote: And for all we know, a member of the local government did it. Aren't they they the one's who denied for month's that Yushenko was poisoned?

Basically we don't know. But it occurs to me that if I wanted to ensure that those in power lost making it apear that they would do such an extrem thing would be very effective for campaining. If somebody wanted him dead wouldn't he more than likely be dead rather than just severely weakened.

But hey it could be the government the fact is I just want to be open to all possiblities until I see something conclusive.


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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-11 19:22:51 Reply

I agree that finding out who did it should be the most important thing, and hopefully no one will jump to conclusions and do anything stupid. It would be like Vice President Cheney having President Bush assassinated and them him saying it was Iran, lets invade them.

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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-11 21:37:27 Reply

The Russians did it.


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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-11 21:47:09 Reply

At 12/11/04 09:37 PM, -Michael- wrote: However, we have a neo-conservative hawk administration in power that probably not like to see how arrogant Russia and it's friendly nations have gotten in the last few years including the Ukraine, and this might even lead to a second Cold War.

It takes a great deal of money to have a cold war to build up arms. There is no way Russia could match our spending. That's how the Soviet Union fell.


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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 00:25:36 Reply

It was the wife. She even admitted it. While she was playing tonsil hockey she sliped him the posion. She tasted posion but did nothing. BULLSHIT, she wanted the insurance money.


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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 00:38:03 Reply

Maybe he was just doing drugs...

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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 02:58:38 Reply

Ain't that a bitch. I don't think that I could be much less suprised though. I mean, shit, if I was gonna lose, I would fight dirty too.

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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 03:29:16 Reply

Oh come on, fighting dirty is one thing, in the big H for a few days, BOOM back on the campaign trail. But look at his face man, lol hes seriously altered!
Gonna take a few years atleast to clean that up.


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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 04:08:53 Reply

At 12/11/04 09:37 PM, -Michael- wrote: However, we have a neo-conservative hawk administration in power that probably not like to see how arrogant Russia and it's friendly nations have gotten in the last few years including the Ukraine, and this might even lead to a second Cold War.

Do you strive to be this retarded or does this come naturally? We'd actually need an opponent to have a Cold War. Just because Bush is a little trigger happy when it comes to foreign policy doesn't mean he's going to declare war on everything that moves. Take a history course, a civics lesson, anything. Just think before you type.

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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 07:42:26 Reply

It takes a great deal of money to have a cold war to build up arms. There is no way Russia could match our spending. That's how the Soviet Union fell.

No, the Soviet Union fell because it was weak from within, because communism just doesn't work. It was nothing to do with the US.

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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 14:50:24 Reply

At 12/12/04 07:42 AM, SkyCube wrote:
It takes a great deal of money to have a cold war to build up arms. There is no way Russia could match our spending. That's how the Soviet Union fell.
No, the Soviet Union fell because it was weak from within, because communism just doesn't work. It was nothing to do with the US.

There is no such thing as single causation in history. There were a number of factors that led to the downfall of the Soviet Union. You both listed good reasons as to why the USSR collapsed, but there are a number of other reasons as well, such as Glasnost, the failed war in Afghanistan, independence movements in the Eastern Bloc with Soviet inability to quell such nationalistic movements, the list goes on.

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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 18:48:11 Reply

i dont want him to win anyway.

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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 18:52:58 Reply

At 12/12/04 06:48 PM, oscilate_wildely wrote: i dont want him to win anyway.

Yeah, hes a loser. Hes ugly. He looks like the wolfman. He should lose.

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Response to Ukraine opposition poisoned. War! 2004-12-12 20:54:08 Reply

Wow Mike! Too bad the Daily Show covered this a long time ago.

It's a shame, never the less.