Why do they have to be 3D?

[Soldier1st]

why do people need a game to be 3d for it to be good. alien hominid for example, some people dont like it, why? is it because its not 3d? and now it seems every game has gotta be 3d now a days. its making me pissed. please dont stop making games like alien hominid!

[Lord-Humungus]

and don't forget Soldat!

[marzzbar]

At 12/6/04 12:08 AM, Hycran wrote: if it was in 4d you would probably shit your pants

LOLWTF that's the funniest thing I've read all day.
I guess people are wanting 3d games because they have better graphics and are more realistic and therefore look better. But 3d isn't always better. Example: Worms armageddon and worms 3d.

[NeverFirst]

At 12/6/04 12:08 AM, Hycran wrote: if it was in 4d you would probably shit your pants

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time and Prince of Persia: Warrior Within are in 4D, nothing special.

[GenesisHell]

At 12/6/04 12:08 AM, Hycran wrote: if it was in 4d you would probably shit your pants

Did you know "4d" is time ...it's lenth width depth AND time yah i pribly would shtie my pants too.

[Misanthropic]

I think a lot of people are actually realizing that plain ol' 3D is sort of losing its flavor.. and that's why a lot of new games have gone in the direction of cell-shading.

[VeryProudofYa]

Ikiruga(sp?) Is a good 2-d game for th gamecube

[othernameislv26]

At 12/6/04 12:15 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote: Ikiruga(sp?) Is a good 2-d game for th gamecube

I know which game u mean, it is actually pretty good.

[CatSpider]

This faggot playstation magazine gave Alien Hominid low scores because it was too hard, and it looked like a Flash game. One of many things that convinced me not to renew my subscription. Bunch of jaded graphic whores.

[Mike-Mavies]

At 12/6/04 12:27 AM, CatSpider wrote: This faggot playstation magazine gave Alien Hominid low scores because it was too hard, and it looked like a Flash game. One of many things that convinced me not to renew my subscription. Bunch of jaded graphic whores.

"Oh no! The graphics didn't give me a seizure! I'm going to tell the twenty people that subscribe to my magazine to avoid this game at all costs!"

"I'm paris hilton, and I hate alien hominid because I'm a spoiled bitch and the characters didn't jump off the screen and give me an orgasm."

[Cycros]

At 12/6/04 12:08 AM, Hycran wrote: if it was in 4d you would probably shit your pants

TLOZ Majora's Mask?

[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

At 12/6/04 12:11 AM, Assassin_ wrote:

At 12/6/04 12:08 AM, Hycran wrote: if it was in 4d you would probably shit your pants

Did you know "4d" is time ...it's lenth width depth AND time yah i pribly would shtie my pants too.

Actually, a dimension by definition is axis for defining the coordinates of a point in space. Additionally a dimension is reliant on the lower dimensions existence. For instance, the third dimension cannot exist without the first or second dimension so technically time is not a dimension since it is calculable when scrutinizing movement or processes in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd dimensions.

To even understand 4d we have to find a way to take the standard X,Y,Z axis and add a fourth axis that is simultaneously perpendicular to X,Y, and Z. Hard to imagine but mathematically possible. The real question is if our minds (trained to see and interact in three dimensions) would even be able to adjust to seeing four dimensionally. So we’d probably shit our pants due to how impossibly hard it would be to do just about anything in a 4d game.

/egghead rant

[NeverFirst]

Time is calculable when nothing is moving, but it's not calculable when nothing exists. Just because nothing moves in any of the three space dimensions, doesn't mean that they cease to exist. So time is reliant on the three dimensions, and not indepentdent of them.

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[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

At 12/6/04 01:07 AM, NeverFirst wrote: Time is calculable when nothing is moving, but it's not calculable when nothing exists. Just because nothing moves in any of the three space dimensions, doesn't mean that they cease to exist. So time is reliant on the three dimensions, and not indepentdent of them.

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Time doesn’t need the third dimension to exist. You can have time in two dimensions. Does that mean that time becomes the third dimension on a two dimensional plane? No, time is relevant to all of them and exists without the Z-axis.

Take this into consideration, would you be able to plot a point in 3d space without the existence of the Y-axis? No. Can you measure the amount of time it takes something to move down a one-dimensional line? Yes.

[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

At 12/6/04 01:16 AM, Kam-Ron wrote: Alien Hominid would actually be tight as fuck in 3d. Just think about it. Man.... That is a game I would want, but I doubt it will EVER EVER happen.

If they weren’t careful it would go the way of Earthworm Jim 3d. Great 2D game, sucky 3D game.

[DanPaladin]

hehe yeah.

additionally, when metal slug 3D comes out, i think people will appreciate 2D even more.

love the time/dimension debate. it probes my neurons.

[NeverFirst]

At 12/6/04 01:14 AM, Spike_J_Wolfwood wrote:
Time doesn’t need the third dimension to exist. You can have time in two dimensions. Does that mean that time becomes the third dimension on a two dimensional plane? No, time is relevant to all of them and exists without the Z-axis.

Take this into consideration, would you be able to plot a point in 3d space without the existence of the Y-axis? No. Can you measure the amount of time it takes something to move down a one-dimensional line? Yes.

I see what you're getting at now. But time still can't exist in zero dimensions. Time isn't a space dimension. But you need at least one space dimension for time to exist. Or at least for the illusion of time to exist. Basically, it isn't THE fourth dimension, but it still contributes to something HAVING four dimensions.

[Matt-G]

At 12/6/04 12:06 AM, Soldier1st wrote: why do people need a game to be 3d for it to be good. alien hominid for example, some people dont like it, why? is it because its not 3d? and now it seems every game has gotta be 3d now a days. its making me pissed. please dont stop making games like alien hominid!

Shut up.
Noone thinks that.
There arn't many 2d games around because there isn't alot you can do with the except for lame puzzles and side scrollers.
Side scrollers are awesome but there isn't much variation in each game.

[Le-Baron]

At 12/6/04 12:06 AM, Soldier1st wrote: why do people need a game to be 3d for it to be good.

Because people think graphics make the game. If the gameplay is SHIT, then graphics mean nothing.

Many asskissing fanboys don't realize that.

[Oni]

At 12/6/04 12:08 AM, Hycran wrote: if it was in 4d you would probably shit your pants

you've obviously never seen a game in 5d

primitive earth games >: (

[ArtistJ]

At 12/6/04 12:06 AM, Soldier1st wrote: why do people need a game to be 3d for it to be good. alien hominid for example, some people dont like it, why? is it because its not 3d? and now it seems every game has gotta be 3d now a days. its making me pissed. please dont stop making games like alien hominid!

damn right. pollygons suck ass, sprites own.

[DanPaladin]

At 12/6/04 02:51 AM, DontTouchMe wrote:

At 12/6/04 12:06 AM, Soldier1st wrote: why do people need a game to be 3d for it to be good.

Because people think graphics make the game.

you're saying "people think graphics make the game" as if 3D is better by default.

[VeryProudofYa]

At 12/7/04 12:51 AM, DanPaladin wrote:

At 12/6/04 02:51 AM, DontTouchMe wrote:

At 12/6/04 12:06 AM, Soldier1st wrote: why do people need a game to be 3d for it to be good.

Because people think graphics make the game.

you're saying "people think graphics make the game" as if 3D is better by default.

Uh oh!!! Sounds like Dan is angry with you

[DanPaladin]

i am not teh angreh

[Enoll]

A good game is a good game, not matter 2D or 3D.
3D AH wouldn't feel right..unless it was done really well.

[BoBoTheHippo]

At 12/6/04 02:51 AM, DontTouchMe wrote:

At 12/6/04 12:06 AM, Soldier1st wrote: why do people need a game to be 3d for it to be good.

Because people think graphics make the game. If the gameplay is SHIT, then graphics mean nothing.

Many asskissing fanboys don't realize that.

FFVIII...
shit graphics compared to X, but still better gameplay, plot and storyline!

[BoBoTheHippo]

FFVIII...
shit graphics compared to X, but still better gameplay, plot and storyline!

opps, sorry, I meant FFVII

[Renatwo]

I agree,its totally dumb 3D is condisdered better then 2-D..some games look better in 2-D actually ...I mean I perfer the look old pixelized Mario games over the new ones(exculding things like paper Mario),the 3-D ones just look kind of silly to me :/...its like saying Pixar movies are better then the normal Disney cartoons or anime or other 2-D forms...they are two different styles entirely,its dumb to compare them at all... ^^;

[Mike-Mavies]

At 12/6/04 02:51 AM, DontTouchMe wrote: Because people think graphics make the game. If the gameplay is SHIT, then graphics mean nothing.

True, but many time graphics effect the gameplay, in a good way or a bad way. For example, most of the Super Mario games were in 2-d, because that suited them best. It made the game simple, yet challenging. Then, along came the N64 with Super Mario 64. It's 3-d graphics introduced a new way of gameplay, and it was challenging in a different way. Now, look at Super Mario Sunshine or the new Final Fantasy games. They let the graphics take over and turn it into a garbage game with no gameplay.

[weirdoo]

At 12/6/04 12:11 AM, NeverFirst wrote:

At 12/6/04 12:08 AM, Hycran wrote: if it was in 4d you would probably shit your pants

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time and Prince of Persia: Warrior Within are in 4D, nothing special.

there is no such thing as a 4d idiot. only 3d