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At 12/4/04 09:29 AM, drDAK wrote:
Okay, Dcdemon, the docter's dosage is to lay off being with other conspiracy therorists for a while. Since ignorance is probably your BEST asset, I suggest you work at the Garbage dump for a while, being the garbage. Learn something before you come onto the BBS.

..you are so stupid its almost entertaining reading your posts.
I think before you tell anyone to "learn something before you come on bbs", you should do some learning yourself.

At 4/7/07 12:51 PM, Arturus wrote:

..you are so stupid its almost entertaining reading your posts.

Congrats! You've just responded to a post that was made about 3 years ago!

At 4/7/07 12:56 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 4/7/07 12:51 PM, Arturus wrote:

..you are so stupid its almost entertaining reading your posts.

Congrats! You've just responded to a post that was made about 3 years ago!

Congrats! Your stating the obvious!

At 4/7/07 01:07 PM, Arturus wrote:

Congrats! Your stating the obvious!

Hey! At least i'm not the one who did it!

At 4/7/07 01:11 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 4/7/07 01:07 PM, Arturus wrote:

Congrats! Your stating the obvious!

Hey! At least i'm not the one who did it!

i'm aware he made that post in 04 u retard....its not illegal to respond to it

At 4/7/07 01:13 PM, Arturus wrote: i'm aware he made that post in 04 u retard....its not illegal to respond to it

No, but it makes you seem like an idiot. Just admit it, you didn't notice the post date.

At 4/7/07 01:45 PM, JakeHero wrote:

At 4/7/07 01:13 PM, Arturus wrote: i'm aware he made that post in 04 u retard....its not illegal to respond to it

No, but it makes you seem like an idiot. Just admit it, you didn't notice the post date.

its not like the posts are going anywhere...i'll welcome reposnses to my posts years down the track.

As i said i'm aware the post was in 04.......and you know what i don't give a fuck if you think i "seem like an idiot", i wasn't replying to you in the first place.

At 4/6/07 09:41 AM, chazeverest wrote: There unltra high tech weapons, Super Entendard, Exocet, Mirage etc etc didn't help them in 82 and it won't help them now or later. The U.K. kicked yo asses.

That shows your complete ignorance in the subject, and when you know nothing about something, you should shut up, so you don't embarrass yourself like you have just done.

Have a nice day! :D

the U.S. will be a superpower in ten years. Our economy is on the way back up, our military is better than ever. As long as the liberals stay out of power everything will be fine. Yeah, im pretty conservative like that. Don't tell anyone but i still support bush and im gonn joion the army next year! Hoo Ahh!

At 4/8/07 05:08 PM, callofdutyfreak wrote:

:Our economy is on the way back up

You can't beat Chinese growth rates, they are ... well, Chinese.

At 4/8/07 06:13 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 4/8/07 05:08 PM, callofdutyfreak wrote:

You can't beat Chinese growth rates, they are ... well, Chinese.

And they will slow down as all do.

The Chinese economy isn't a strong as people tend to think.

At 4/8/07 08:36 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 4/8/07 06:13 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 4/8/07 05:08 PM, callofdutyfreak wrote:

You can't beat Chinese growth rates, they are ... well, Chinese.

And they will slow down as all do.

The Chinese economy isn't a strong as people tend to think.

30 years growing at 10% rates?Investment of 40% of their GDP?!? Do you think that isn't strong?

At 4/8/07 08:43 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 4/8/07 08:36 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 4/8/07 06:13 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 4/8/07 05:08 PM, callofdutyfreak wrote:

30 years growing at 10% rates?Investment of 40% of their GDP?!? Do you think that isn't strong?

And these numbers are trusted?
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2005/10/c hina_gdp_stati.html

At 4/8/07 08:47 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: And these numbers are trusted?
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2005/10/c hina_gdp_stati.html

What rates do you suggest then, if you do not trust the official rates?

At 4/8/07 09:06 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 4/8/07 08:47 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

What rates do you suggest then, if you do not trust the official rates?

I don't know.

I just know that China isn't telling us everything they know.

And beyond that, one can't rate the wealth of a nation without looking at the individual. And the chinese government has a power grasp on the cities and the individuals there. When one thinks of China, thats what they think.

But the outlying lands and areas, is where the hearts and minds are and Beijeng(sp) has never had much power there.

Like I said, I'm more then willing to give China time, To wait and see before I make my prediction.

At 4/8/07 09:13 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 4/8/07 09:06 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 4/8/07 08:47 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

What rates do you suggest then, if you do not trust the official rates?

I don't know.

I just know that China isn't telling us everything they know.

Well it's a dictatorship, they lie a lot. I doubt their poverty levels.

And beyond that, one can't rate the wealth of a nation without looking at the individual. And the chinese government has a power grasp on the cities and the individuals there. When one thinks of China, thats what they think.

But the outlying lands and areas, is where the hearts and minds are and Beijeng(sp)

I think it's Beijing.
Pekín in Spanish.

has never had much power there.

Yes but think the wealth and power will balance eventually.

Like I said, I'm more then willing to give China time, To wait and see before I make my prediction.

But when are you going to make your prediction? When China has already surpassed the US? :)

Why the hell do we care about China? Whenever they start getting dangerous, we simply direct every Chinese with an Internet connection to a site that reads "Tiananmen Square 1989, democracy, freedom" and wait for their own Internet death squads to "take care" of half the country.

At 12/3/04 02:12 AM, MaNiNbLaCk wrote: 2. We have nukes
that alone will keep us a major world power it always has. Nukes stop non-nuclear countires from ever coming to major world power.

Do you honestly think that we would ever USE them? Nukes work perfectly fine as a deterrant, but I highly doubt that any President wants to be remembered as the first person since Truman to order a nuclear attack. MAYBE if someone nukes us first. Oh, question: Is our Star Wars defense system working yet? Someone fill me in.

3. we have a UN Veto
this gives us alot of policy clout on the world level.

Which is a total bullshit power that the founding members gave themselves and now deny to any other countries as their way to promote their own agenda. Thus making the UN almost powerless. I'm not sure how they can override the veto in the UN, someone fill me in on that too please.

At 4/8/07 09:39 PM, Empanado wrote: Why the hell do we care about China?

I am very happy with China being the next superpower, they do't have raw materials and they will make their prices rise, meaning more money for South America, and we can have our belle epoqué all over again! :D

Go beginning of the 20th century!

In ten years China or Japan will have a big power because of their tehnology.

At 4/8/07 11:53 PM, TheSnakeSkull wrote: In ten years China or Japan will have a big power because of their tehnology.

China is decades behind in military technology and Japan is utterly reliant on the US for defense. So perhaps you shouldn't to be so quick to shoot off your mouth.

At 4/9/07 02:17 AM, JakeHero wrote:

At 4/8/07 11:53 PM, TheSnakeSkull wrote: In ten years China or Japan will have a big power because of their tehnology.

China is decades behind in military technology and Japan is utterly reliant on the US for defense. So perhaps you shouldn't to be so quick to shoot off your mouth.

I don't think he was necessarily talking about a large power militarily, but economically. Power does not have to be military power, it could be more described as global influence. Having the leading technology or a large population/ amount of production facilities, military or not gives your nation prominence in world politics.

At 4/8/07 09:59 PM, reviewer-general wrote:

At 12/3/04 02:12 AM, MaNiNbLaCk wrote: 2. We have nukes
that alone will keep us a major world power it always has. Nukes stop non-nuclear countires from ever coming to major world power.

Do you honestly think that we would ever USE them? Nukes work perfectly fine as a deterrant, but I highly doubt that any President wants to be remembered as the first person since Truman to order a nuclear attack. MAYBE if someone nukes us first. Oh, question: Is our Star Wars defense system working yet? Someone fill me in.

Plus the nukes we have probably don't work any more, or at lest well. Star Wars was never a realistic idea, but we do have something like a shield, which consist of other high speed missiles capable of taking down ICBMs. Though in all honesty we only have to work about Russian ICBMs, as there the only ones that have any hope of both reaching us and getting through our shield set up. China has a couple of ICBMs, but there underpowered, prone to guidance failures and have no internal avoidance system to speak of, so they would all likely be taken down by our anti-missiles. Every one else doesn't have shit; Except for our allies of course.

3. we have a UN Veto
this gives us alot of policy clout on the world level.

Which is a total bullshit power that the founding members gave themselves and now deny to any other countries as their way to promote their own agenda. Thus making the UN almost powerless. I'm not sure how they can override the veto in the UN, someone fill me in on that too please.

The veto is a power which is held by five countries, the USA, UK, Russia, France, and China. Basically any permanent member, i.e. One of the five countries, can veto any action under taken by the UN, no matter what the support of it is by the other members, including the other four how hold veto power.

My views on the status of the US as a supper power is this, in ten years, yes, in twenty years yes, in thirty years, maybe, in forty years, probably not, and in fifty years, no. The problem isn't our capabilities today, but rather what they'll be in a few decades.

The US is falling behind in areas of research, while country's like china and organizations like the EU are starting to pull ahead in pure research. Chinas growth is increasing, and will continue to increase, they are putting more materials towards general research then any other country. The EU is also vamping up it's research capabilities, and will likely have facilities an order of magnitude greater then our own soon. I've seen many of the students who have graduated in my department leave for over seas, a good 25%, this doesn't include the students who come here from over seas, they have a near 100% attrition rate. The offers that many of these countries are making are to good for any young researcher to pass up, so they don't. Mean while in the US we have cut funding to NSF down to about 5.6 billion and it's still falling. Many of our research labs are being shut down, and from what I understand Jefferson labs may go off line this summer, if they go off line then the US will lose it's last major particle accelerator, and any research into particle physics will be done over seas, in places like Switzerland .

At 4/9/07 02:17 AM, JakeHero wrote: China is decades behind in military technology and Japan is utterly reliant on the US for defense. So perhaps you shouldn't to be so quick to shoot off your mouth.

On average, about two, but there caching up and devolving new technology at a very fast rate. They'll probably be technologically up to us in about 15 years or so, maybe a little sooner if we don't pick up our slack.

Although im not american im far from american but I was brought up in an american school.
here is my opinion on this stuff. If leaders like bush are going to lead US the situation will get worse