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Yeah. Fox news IS favorable to the right, and that is obvious, whereas CNN is so far left they're off the scale. I wish we could just get the news straight up. Remember in '00 when CNN called Gore as the winner of Florida when it was Bush? Yeah.... Mmm... Smells like some bullshit a' cookin. Anyways, im gonna stay tuned on whats goin on. Ive been checkin out yahoo stuff. it looks the neatest :D

Wow, is it just me or is there a larger turnout his year than last year?

Not only fox news has Ohio for Bush but msnbc has Ohio marked red as well.

And I'm surprised that MSN isn't conservative.

At 11/3/04 01:52 AM, BIueAsterisk wrote: Bush's multilateral talks with north korea will all but ensure that we reduce problems not just with korea

You do know that the Korean War is still going on right? They haven't stopped now and we're allied with South Korea. If North Korea nukes or attacks South Korea in all likelyhood we're going in.

At 11/3/04 02:07 AM, WadeFulp wrote: The thing I found funny is there screens. Hard to see them (the TV screens)

I don't have a problem.

and they aren't showing the actual raw vote totals. Just the % of the vote that's in and to close to call.

Yes they are. It's the smaller number to the left of the percentage so that people can see the faster numbers from far away when they aren't highlighting those screens.

Fox News shows you the real data and isn't trying to hide the fact that the Republicans are kicking major ass. CNN is trying to cover up the facts. Typical.

Do your homework.

At 11/3/04 02:11 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Dude, you're acting like Kerry would gain 150,000 votes. That's 150,000 out of 250,000, meaning Bush would pick up the other 100,000 votes, meaning Kerry would come out with a net gain of 50,000. So if Bush is ahead buy 100,000, he's now ahead by 50,000.

600k votes still uncounted? It's more than possible that Kerry could carry the state.

CNN is hilarious. They are all in denial. Larry King is like "There will be no winner tonight." they are still trying to find a way for Kerry to win and hope he'll win.

No he didn't. He just asked if they should change Ohio to leaning towards Bush. Come on Wade, you're being wicked biased. I'm at least giving it the doubt it deserves. It's not like the polls are completely closed. As long as there's a line the polls will remain open. People are still voting. There's still about half an hour left in the line from what I understand.

CNN is way behind, and I don't mean by the Ohio one only. Fox states that kerry has 238, while CNN states he has only 211.

too bad, I was going to make an election flash. A parody of the Mortal Combat movie theme. Instead of "Cast Your Mite" it would be "Cast Your Vote". And when it said all the mortal combat characters, It would be all the players in the election. But I got bored.

People who harp on about the liberalness of American media are blind fools.

At 11/3/04 02:07 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Holy shit! How lame is CNN! I just put it on to see what they are up to. First of all it looks like a High School production broadcasted on a public access channel compared to Fox News. The thing I found funny is there screens. Hard to see them (the TV screens), and they aren't showing the actual raw vote totals. Just the % of the vote that's in and to close to call.

Fox News shows you the real data and isn't trying to hide the fact that the Republicans are kicking major ass. CNN is trying to cover up the facts. Typical.

Wade, that just isn't right. Fox news does not lean to the right, they define the right. Fair and balanced is a facade, and a laughable one at that. They will, and always have tilted the vote towards the republican, such as giving Ohio to Bush very early on and taking their sweet time in giving Kerry New Hampshire. And what does it matter what the setup looks like? Anyway, in the grand scheme of things, I try and stay out of the far left and far right when I watch news. Consequently, fuck CNN, and FUCK Fox News. If I'm going to watch any election coverage, it's going to be ABC, MSNBC, and good old Jon Stewart on the Daily Show. :)

Fox News shows you the real data and isn't trying to hide the fact that the Republicans are kicking major ass. CNN is trying to cover up the facts. Typical.

And lastly, addressing this. Fox News does not show the "real data." They have always tilted the news to the right, and even if Republican's aren't 'kicking major ass,' they stick to their guns and insist they are. You can't rely solely on a single Newsource, because every station will have it's own convictions. One source isn't always the right one.

At 11/3/04 02:19 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Haha, I gotta watch CNN more. It's pathetic. Larry King is so upset, you can so see it. He's all upset that Kerry is going to lose, and he knows it. They were talking about the big effort to get out the 18-24 crowd and how about the same # of that age range voted this time compared to last time, so the efforst FAILED. Then Larry King is all "Why didn't they vote?! Why aren't they voting?!" and was all upset and flustered because he knows they would favor Kerry.

Well, you gotta admit that after all the big hype and push to get younger voters out, when they find out they didn't make a difference like they thought it would, it's really going to turn a lot of young people away from future voting.

Also, while it may be very likely that Bush will get Ohio and subsequently get re-election (the world is so screwed), there is still a possibility for a Kerry win in Ohio. So I don't think CNN's description of calling it "too close to call" it really all that inaccurate. Odds are that it will end up going to Bush, but I do think that Fox and NBC did call it prematurely, because it wasn't a definite thing.

John Edwards sure sounds extremely confident about winning. Too bad, they there's a practically next to nothing chance of him and Kerry winning, with the way Ohio and the other states are going.

At 11/3/04 02:29 AM, Hermannator wrote: John Edwards sure sounds extremely confident about winning. Too bad, they there's a practically next to nothing chance of him and Kerry winning, with the way Ohio and the other states are going.

No arguments, here.

Bush 249
Kerry 228
Michigan went to Kerry

At 11/3/04 02:29 AM, GhostMint wrote:
CNN isn't behind, Fox and NBC are just hasty and want to be the first to get a result reported. They don't understand that the Presidential race is far more important than their petty race for the scoop.

That's probably true, but the assumptions seem close enough. And if they were wrong, they can change it. It's not like Fox will refuse to go and stick with their first assumptions, no matter what.

Ooo! Fox news showed a guy and two girls grinding together afterJohn Edwards speech!

Bush 249
Kerry 242
Minnesota and Hawaii go to Kerry
That announcer was way to happy about Minnesota.

At 11/3/04 02:34 AM, FatherVenom wrote: Bush 249
Kerry 242
Minnesota and Hawaii go to Kerry
That announcer was way to happy about Minnesota.

Bush 269 <--
Kerry 242

:/ Owned

Do you realize that it's entirely possible for this election to end in a tie right now? It's unlikely but if Nevada flips and New Mexico stays with Kerry and Iowa going to Kerry (likely as the places that came in were mostly the places Bush was supposed to do well in) and Bush gets Ohio that's 269 to 269. Crazy. Then we get Bush as the president because Congress is controlled by the Republicans.

I seriously doubt it.

Like Kerry doesn't have lawyers at the ready to call for a recount. Same goes for Bush.

BUSH-249
KERRY-242
Its pretty close, but I still predict that bush will win, hence the remaining states are bush prominent.

The result from the state of UK isn't in yet!

At 11/3/04 02:07 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Fox News shows you the real data and isn't trying to hide the fact that the Republicans are kicking major ass. CNN is trying to cover up the facts. Typical.

Gimmie a break, Wade. FOX news has been throwing in their little smirky comments and trying to get speakers to over-estimate data just like CNN and everyone else has.

It's kind of stupid that I should actually be impressed that FOX has been semi-behaving tonight, in any case.

At 11/3/04 02:49 AM, UNOWNED wrote: BUSH-249
KERRY-242
Its pretty close, but I still predict that bush will win, hence the remaining states are bush prominent.

Your getting your info from Yahoo. I havent seen the same calculations ANYWHERE else. God knows where google is coming up with these number o_O

At 11/3/04 02:50 AM, WadeFulp wrote: NEWS FLASH, from left wing CNN:

Democrats are debating if it's wise to push the issue with provisional ballots as they are liking to be split and could give Bush an even larger lead.

Wade, you might be right about President Bush winning, but I'm not, as I'm sure many others aren't, ready to throw in the towel. About John Edwards not being his usual peppy self, they've been campaigning for a loooong time with no breaks. I'd look tired beaten and upset in a situation like that too. This is still close. We can't draw to conclusions yet.