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Guess what? Here is our incumbent

Yeah, FOX news declared Ohio in Bush's favor. I know I'm liberal and people say that Fox news are for conservatives! But from the format of the screen and the way they report, it does seem more interesting. I also check the Yahoo.com reports, but like that's reliable. But whatever. Damnit, Bush pretty much won :(.

At 11/3/04 01:32 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 11/3/04 01:28 AM, FatherVenom wrote: CNN hasn't. There are still 75k+ uncounted provisional votes.

That's because the liberals at CNN are in denial.

They just had on an official from Ohio. He said there are probably around 140,000 provisional votes. He expects them to be split around 50/50, and they may actually tilt in Bush's favor. So basically Bush will still have a lead of around 130,000-140,000 votes in Ohio, a clear victory.

Actually Larry King just said there's about 250k provisional votes, but there's at least 120k which is more than enough. My bad. They won't be counted until 11 days from now. You think all those disgruntled troops over in Iraq who only had to postmark them today are going to vote for the man who wants to keep them there and is treating them like pawns? I would doubt it.

Bush only has 100k lead on the official polls and King is predicting that those provisional ballots are going to favor Kerry.

The official statement from the Kerry camp says they aren't giving up the fight.

I am thinking, what about all the people in Iraq, do they get to vote... Vote against the bastard that sent them there.

Good world thinknig

At 11/3/04 01:07 AM, UNOWNED wrote: As you can clearly see, the election is rigged.

Exactly! How couldn't it be? It's absurd to think that you can't always get what you want and that there are people out there who actually think different than you.

That's inconceivable.

At 11/3/04 01:13 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:

At 11/3/04 01:11 AM, Rainbow_Warrior wrote:

At 11/3/04 01:04 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:

"And if I am elected...an oil well in every backyard"
Do they not realize what Bush is going to be capable of doing to the environment..

Actually, I've read in a couple of places that the people in Alaska are friendly towards drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Oil is a major part of Alaska's economy.

..and it's like the Russian president Putin has stated when asked "Global warming? that isn't so bad.. places like Russia are pretty cold anyway" --- same for Alsaska!

At 11/3/04 01:34 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
Also don't be so ignorant. There isn't going to be a draft.

I also doubt there will be a draft too.

But what happens if Iraq goes to a situation in which too many troops die and there would not be enough troops to protect Iraq and Iraq still needs protection? In order to continue protecting Iraq without a draft, we will need help from other countries or try to convince more people to join the Army or Marines to train and work as paid volunteered soliders.

What I don't understand is that the topic starter is Canadian.

At 11/3/04 01:43 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 11/3/04 01:38 AM, FatherVenom wrote:

You think all those disgruntled troops over in Iraq who only had to postmark them today are going to vote for the man who wants to keep them there and is treating them like pawns? I would doubt it.

Are you crazy? The Militayr loves Bush. Look at the polls. I think they are split 70% for Bush and 30% for Kerry.

Not to mention the fact that Kerry didn't even want to keep our troops equipped (the infamous $87 billion).
But I guess all that's over now, all us republicans are basically waiting for them to end the dispense and say that Bush pwned. I'm skipping school tomarrow in celebration. : )

At 11/3/04 01:34 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Killing kittens? You don't sound like a tree hugging, animal loving Democrat to me.

LOL. We're not all hippies.

Also don't be so ignorant. There isn't going to be a draft.

With the large potential for many casualties with the brewing offensive in Falujah and the possibility of getting back into the unfinished Korean War and Afghanistan lacking troops as of now AND the higher ups not allowing troops to finish their tours the army is obviously stretched too thin as it is.

I don't forsee a draft unless Bush goes into North Korea. Will he? It's really a toss up. Without having to worry about pleasing a constituency he can basically do whatever he wants. He already did by starting two armed conflicts.

I'm afraid of a draft, but I don't think it will happen. Bush has already shown ambivalence to the N Korea situation and I don't see that changing.

But I must confess. I really hate Bill O'Reilly. But more for the way he acts than the way he leans. If he was a Democrat, but continued his method of debating (such as telling them to shut up or cut the mic), I would still hate him.

If you watch CNN you can see all the morons waving at the window in the backround. Currently the Electoral Vote are BUSH-249 KERRY-211 Its getting pretty late and still no decision.

At 11/3/04 01:48 AM, FatherVenom wrote: I don't forsee a draft unless Bush goes into North Korea. Will he? It's really a toss up. Without having to worry about pleasing a constituency he can basically do whatever he wants. He already did by starting two armed conflicts.

I'm afraid of a draft, but I don't think it will happen. Bush has already shown ambivalence to the N Korea situation and I don't see that changing.

I really, really hope Bush does not use military action against North Korea. In fact, people will probably start bitching from both sides if we did, since we are war weary by now. If we did go to war, we would be sending people who just came from Iraq. Otherwise, we would do a draft.

Bush's multilateral talks with north korea will all but ensure that we reduce problems not just with korea, but also with China, and other countries that join the multilateral talks. If we had gone with kerry, the other countries would've been alienated, and korea would've felt threatened. Can you liberal douches please STFU, you lost go kill yourselves. I think that Dennis Leary said it best "The tuna? Fuck them they taste good."

According to Fox News, Bush just won Ohio leaving him with 269 electoral votes. :/

Wade, I notice that you talk polotics a lot more than Tom. I know that he is liberal, but is that only to piss you off like cheering against your favorite team or what not. I mean, you are pretty conservative (or so it would seem), is Tom really that liberal?

Ah. Was gonna leave a link. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137407,00.html

As you also can clearly see. The media is BULLSHIT.

like that hasn't been said before.

Yeah. This was also coming from fox news which is blatantly biased.

At 11/3/04 01:43 AM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 11/3/04 01:38 AM, FatherVenom wrote: Actually Larry King just said there's about 250k provisional votes, but there's at least 120k which is more than enough.

It doesn't matter, 250,000, or 120,000, they aren't all going to Kerry. Even if it's 60% for Kerry, he'd only gain about 50,000 votes, still short of Bush's lead.

Check your math. 50% of 100k is 50,000. 60% of 120,000 is 72,000, of 250k is 150,000 pretty much there. And I'd say that it's probably more than 60%, but that's conjecture so we'll have to agree to disagree.

Are you crazy? The Militayr loves Bush. Look at the polls. I think they are split 70% for Bush and 30% for Kerry.

My military contacts are largely in favor of Kerry. I might be recieving biased information as most of my contacts are marines and the marines have been largely mismanaged.

LOL. CNN called Ohio green, but not for the Green party, but because it's too close to call. 93% of all votes are in but there's still 60k +/- 100k of votes not counted yet and there's still the provisional votes. 600k potentially uncounted votes that's far more than enough and they're predicting a recount.

Iowa has broken machines, fatigue at the polls, too many absentee ballots, and other problems so they're postponing the votes in Iowa until Wednesday.

Bush has to take all of the rest of the states that he can tonight, which predictions haven't shown to be probable, if we're going to get a decision tonight.

At 11/3/04 01:47 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Fox News is closer to center than any of the other major new channels, but does lean slightly to the right.

You don't recieve BBC news, eh?

Fox News gets a lot of flack from liberals, but it's all BS.

They're all slanted. People really need to watch both sides to decide for themselves.

Fox News has people from the left and the right. You hear both sides, both extremes.

More often than not they showcase the conservative viewpoint. The liberal viewpoint may or may not be shown, but it's always second.

They have super liberal left wing people on Fox News.

They have uber-conservatives on CNN too. Their coverage has showcased the hosts from Crossfire.