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Response to The Book Club 2005-02-19 16:18:25 Reply

At 2/19/05 12:50 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: Great review Coop.

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Book Update: I just bought A Prayer for Own Meany by John Irving. I will start reading it early March i will.

Cool, I want a review from you on here as soon as you've finished it.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-02-19 16:59:19 Reply

At 2/19/05 04:18 PM, Coop83 wrote: Cool, I want a review from you on here as soon as you've finished it.

Will do. I have to write an essay on it anyway, so a small review wont hurt.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-02-19 17:01:05 Reply

At 2/19/05 04:59 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: Will do. I have to write an essay on it anyway, so a small review wont hurt.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-03-07 07:09:48 Reply

So last night, i stayed awake until 3am reading the Davinci Code, by Dan Brown. I didnt want to sleep knowing i was only 90 pages away from the end, so three hours later, i was finished, and i severely enjoyed it.

Dan Brown, is a new authour to me, i only bought this one book to see what all the hype was about, its spawned many other books, tv programmes and a movie is in production, so i thought id give it a try and make my own mind up about it.

The storyline evolves around the search for the holy grail, starting with the murder of french national police crytologers grand father. He was an art connessuier (sp?) and was head of charge at the Louvre in France, keeping track of, keeping, buying the art in the grand art gallery. When he is brutally murdered, he leaves a cryptic message on the floor, which none of the police understand, BUT, Robert Langdon, our main character can. The dying mans final message involves Roberts name, which, brings police to beleive he is a suspect. This all turns into a cat and mouse chase. For Robert and Sophia (FP Cryptologist), they must escape the louvre, and find the links to the cryptic message before the police can find them. This is an excellent read. Although, very short in my opinion, its a page turner, with a difference. Dan Brown uses actual places (very well detailed, and very informative) and people, such as the national art galleries in France, crypts and castles in England, and even a visit too Scotland :D Overall i would rate this book 9 out of 10, for the sole reason that this is the first book in a while which has kept me glued to my seat when i start reading it. My time is very short for reading these days, but this filled it, AND, seemed to make time for itself, i havent stayed up so late over the last few days reading for nothing :)

A great book, i hope some of you guys will read it and make your own judgements about it. Well thanks for reading (if you did:D) and i look forward to raeding more from this Dan Brown in the future. Possibly Angels and Demons, i will purchase on Thursday.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-03-07 07:33:15 Reply

Sounds a good book, SCD. I've got a long list of books to read, but I may pop into Waterstones on Thursday and pick up a copy, making the list longer still.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-03-10 10:20:13 Reply

I popped into Waterstones today and added to my personal book collection of around 500 books. I now have a copy of 'Lost Tales: Part 2' and 'The Lays of Beleriand', both from the History of Middle Earth, by JRR Tolkien.

I also acquired a copy of Shogun (finally) by James Clavell. only 1125 pages long, so it should take me about six months to read.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-03-17 15:10:14 Reply

Title : The Hobbit
Author : JRR Tolkien
Date of Publication : 1937
ISBN : 0-261-10221-4

"Whisked away from his comfortable hobbit-hole, by Gandalf the wizard and a band of dwarves, Bilbo Baggins finds himself caught up in a plot to raid the treasure hoard of Smaug the Magnificent, a large and very dangerous dragon..."

Writing style.

Tolkien is undoubtedly very long-winded. He may tend to ramble, when describing a scene, but the depth he gives the reader is of such quality, I cannot bemoan it, for such a vivid picture is painted in my mind's eye. Another drawback is his tendancy to use long words, which will have you reaching for the dictionary constantly.

The one place his descriptive talent does lack is during the battle scenes. I find those far too short for my liking and would advise people to read them twice, to get a true feel for what is happening.

Would I reccomend it?

This book is a must read. If you ahve not read the hobbit, why not? Go and buy or borrow a copy and read it now! This book is the definitive modern classic, along with it's sequel, 'The Lord of the Rings' and it will be remembered for generations.

Best bit (Non-Spoiler) [Bilbo has had to buy back his furniture, due to him being 'Missing, presumed dead']

"Many of his silver spoons had mysteriously dissapeared and were never accounted for. Personally, he suspected the Sackville-Bagginses. On their side, they never admitted that the returned Baggins was genuine and were not on friendly terms with Bilbo ever after. They really had wanted to live in his nice hobbit-hole so very much."

My Rating : 9/10

Because of his long winded style and tendancy to use long, eloquent words, I shall dock him a mark. This is also due to the fact I know that LotR is better (And I'm not giving that 11/10.)

Pleasant reading. My next book shall be 'The Fellowship of the Ring' by JRR Tolkien.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-12 12:30:49 Reply

I've started reading:

'Fathers And Sons' by Ivan Turganev recently.

I would much preffer it if books of this nature never told stories, and just batted out their system of thought. Anyway, it reads like an advertisement on TV, look, I wont type the whole thing out, but a discussion of Nihilism on p22 & 23 has things like:

'And that's a good thing, is it ?'

Etc. I find it halarious. Anyway, it is enjoyable, if you dig the Nihilistic political stance. I'm interested in such things, so I love it./


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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-17 11:17:50 Reply

I just checked out 2001: A Space Odyssey and I must say it's pretty interesting. I haven't seen the movie but I think after I complete the book I'm going to go check that out as well.

I also checked out Treasure Island, but I'm sort of afraid that it's going to be more childish than I expected. If anyone has read it tell me your thoughts.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-17 12:48:04 Reply

At 5/17/05 11:17 AM, DirtySyko wrote: I also checked out Treasure Island, but I'm sort of afraid that it's going to be more childish than I expected. If anyone has read it tell me your thoughts.

I've read treasure island and found it extremely boring. I just couldn't get into it. Mind you I think the fatc that I saw the muppets version before reading the book might have had an affect. Captain Kermit can not be beaten.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-22 20:24:04 Reply

I was directed here from the Tolkien site, I had posted about 2 sets of books written by Dennis L McKiernan they are the Iron Tower Trilogy & the Silver Call Duology, They are about middle Earth at the end of the 4th age into the 5th. There are vague references to stuff from the Lord of the rings, that puts them about a millenium after the Lord Of The Rings. They are not badly done at all. This guy grew up with Tolkien and I asume he just wanted the story to go on.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-22 23:14:06 Reply

I had no idea this site was getting posts at all... well, currently i am re-reading Jude the Obscure, while flipping forth to Selected Works of Poe. : D Good reading.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-22 23:16:49 Reply

I am currently reading The Tallisman by Stephan King.
It is a very out of the ordinary book.
But I am a big Stephan King fan, what can I say.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-25 19:16:00 Reply

I just got done reading 2001: A Space Odyssey.

You may consider some of the things I say to be spoilers... But I'm not intentionally trying to spoil anything. I won't give rough details, just little nit-bits of the story

The books beginning will catch your attention very quickly. I got sucked in right away.

After you get through the beginning it takes a slide down, but is still fun to read. It doesn't get boring or anything, it just goes from "Wow that's weird" to "Hey this is interesting".

Once you get through the middle and the plot starts coming into play, it begins to pick up once more. It goes from interesting, to strange, to fucking weird. Once you get to the fucking weird part of the book, it becomes pretty hard to understand. A lot of the things the book was explaining was hard for me to visualize, and I'm sure the things I was thinking aren't the same as the author was actually describing. Even though it becomes sort of hard to comprehend towards the end, the author leaves you enough information in each chapter to at least follow what is happening, you just might not fully understand it.

Though the ending was very weird, it wasn't bad, it was very unexpected. I guarantee while reading the book you'll try to guess what's going to happen next, but there is a low chance you're going to get it right. The most amazing thing about the book though, is how it was written int he 70s... Clarke is amazing with his descriptions of humanity, the future, and technology, for this book being written so long ago. You would almost think he took astronomy in college (Don't hold that against me... He may actually have, I'm not sure lol.)

I recommend it, unless you are a die hard hater of Sci-Fi stuff... But you don't have to LOVE Sci-Fi to still like this book.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-25 21:23:48 Reply

Recently I finished the novel A Prayer For Owen Meany, and it was fine, but not grand. The novel was 300 pages too long (600 odd pages in total), and although it had its gems, its writing was quite pedestrian. The novel seemed flawless within the bounds of plot and theme; it was clever, but overbearing, in foreshadowing. However, and being frank, Irving (the author) heavily relied on quoting past – much better – authors. He also had a hard time using good poetic devices, and constantly felt the need to write down whatever he felt like saying, whether it was related to political and/or religious issues, or not. Though, to be fair, many of these nonchalant discussions (or monologues : P) between the narrator and the reader were relevant (scarcely), but many were not. And the novel was a bore; I barely made it through the first 100 pages without nodding off. I will admit it was a wonderful learning experience as a writer, but I found that Irving painted too much of a portrait of who he wished he was into the novel, and too much of his own opinionated views, and less substantial writing.

He also strived to be too original, while still mantaining the old 'Secong Coming' plot, which i thought was near pathetic, though he did try his best to keep it relatable and honest. Though, as i said, he did triumph in regard to plot and theme - and maybe even charcterization - he disgraced style, setting, and intrgue (to add a less recognized, but more important element). I do not want to go on and on and spoil it, because the way he planned the novel out is a learning expereince for most writers, and the novel is a good read for avid readers with a lot of spare time; however, if you like action-thrillers or any genre of the sort, this dramatic, sexually humoured, extreme of a 'realistic' novel is not for you.

This is all i will say... i am 50/50 on the novel. Thomas Hardy is a far better read. : )

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Response to The Book Club 2005-05-26 04:11:32 Reply

HAve just started reaidng Dude wheres my contry by Micahel Moore. is quite an interesting read. When i finish it I'll give a full thing on it.

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At 5/26/05 04:11 AM, -Manic- wrote: HAve just started reaidng Dude wheres my contry by Micahel Moore. is quite an interesting read. When i finish it I'll give a full thing on it.

Hmm.. I may check it out, but I doubt I'll read the whole thing. I'll just see what he's talking about in this book, since the name just makes it sound like Fahrenheit 9/11 in book form. The book I've been wanting to check out is America by John Stewart.

Right now I'm reading The Accidental Tourist, because it was recommended to me in another thread. Last night I only read the first two chapters, but so far it has become very interesting and the book picks up immediately. You don't have to read 8 chapters before the fun starts, it starts right away.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-04 08:23:15 Reply

The Song of Ice and Fire Saga: George R.R. Martin.

Book1: A Game of Thrones
Book2: A Clash of Kings
Book3 Part1: A Storm of Swords : Steel and Snow
Book3 Part2: A storm of Swords: Blood and Gold.

This "book" was introduced to me by a drunk, strange you may say that a drunkard reads so much, but this particular drunk is super smart, he goes by the name Psycho_Goldfish, and hes a top notch Website and Games developer. I was wary at first about trusting him on this, but iam glad i did, because this is truelly the best saga ive read since LotR.

The first book starts of introducing the characters to the Stark family, a mother a father and their 5 children, 4 natural and one bastard child from the fathers side. Martin explains all their loves and like, their hates and all the things they despise with such clarity you begin to love or hate these characters within the first few pages.

The storyline is based on a land (it has no name, to my knowledge) that is separated by 2 borders the north and the south, and beyond the wall. The wall is a huge construction of ice and wood and stone, which is about 100 meters high and 700 miles long, to either keep things from getting into the "normal" lands, or keeping things in. The story in the first book tells of how the family gets on with each other, their friends and so on. It turns out the father is actually the Kings good friend, and is held in high regard for him. The king gives the father (Eddard Stark) a job of his right hand man (The Hand) which is held in high regard. The hand speaks with the kings voice, but, the hand also wipes the kings arse, as its said :) The rest of the book is used to separate the family, and so on, its a weird ploy, one i havent seen in a book before, but it works so well, as to bring in new characters cities and towns.

The second book, tells how the king is killed and the land turns to war. after Eddard is killed his son Robb is heir to his lands in the north, and declares himself king. Stannis, the kings brother declares he is the king, because he is next in line respectedly, but, his younger brother also does the same. The kings oldest son who is only 15 is also made king. This leads to a war or the grandest scale. King v King, knight v knight and one v one. This book tells how all the kings amass their armies, and fight their first few battles.

The third book in the saga details how Eddard Starks bastard son is sent to the wall, to gurad against wildlings and Others, who are ammassingto get into the lands. This is a great book, showing how the son of Eddard feels alone, he misses his brothers and sisters but not his "mother" Catelyn Stark, who has always shunned him, because he is not of her blood. Jon, is on the wall, and in order to join the nights watch he must take vows. The vows include, he may not take a woman to marry (no sex) he may take no territories as his own (No land) and he may not take any payment for his service (no gold). He takes these vows, but grudgingly, as he has no other real options. This book tells of the wildlings and how they are escaping the Others, a mere legend come to life, large creatures made of ice and snow, and when they kill a man, they are brought back to life in the service of their new masters, and only Fire can stop them.

The 4th book in the saga, rounds up some ends, but, totally unravels new threads. This is the second best in the four in my opinion. This details how all the ruling families are falling apart, the lannisters, the starks, the barantheons and the greyjoys. Strange things start to happen in this book, which make you want to read and read till your finished. This book details how the sons of all the major families are used and abused during this war, all making sacrifes, all plotting, all murdering (even the kids and women). This book is pure gold. Its packed with betrayal, twists and turns you could not imagine. It is brutally honest, totally brutal in all the way things happenm. For example. A king orders one of his lead knights to demolish a family, this family also happens to be another kings. He slays the wife with a huge greatsword, rapes a 7 year girl killing her in the process, and smashes a 6 months year old kids head against the sharp corner of a wall. This book is filled with malovensce, traitorism and sex, blood and gold.

Over all the saga is a great read, i do recomend it to all. G RR Martin has got this spot on. Its detail is its greatest acheivement. Martin doesnt only detail the high families, he details their knights, their bastards, their soldiers and their spies. Its truelly a harrowing and thought provoking read.

Some of the characters in these books are so evil its unbeleivable, but some are so true and genuine, that you must keep reading to see what happens to them.

G.R.R. Martinhas said he is aiming for 7 books to this saga, i would be happy with 20, or if he kept going. The fifth book is out in 2 months, and its already pre ordered by me :)

If you read all this, them im happy, because it took fucking ages to write. Thanks for your patience.

Psycho_Goldfish once told me, once you have finished one book, you would kill an old woman for the next, as sad as it seem, its so fucking true. I read all four books about 3700 to 4k pages in 3 months, they are that good.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-05 16:04:06 Reply

At 5/12/05 12:30 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: 'Fathers And Sons' by Ivan Turganev recently.

I've never heard of it, but you've piqued my interest.

At 5/17/05 11:17 AM, DirtySyko wrote: I just checked out 2001: A Space Odyssey and I must say it's pretty interesting. I haven't seen the movie but I think after I complete the book I'm going to go check that out as well.

Awesome book. I loved it and the film doesn't do it justice (As films rarely do.)

I also checked out Treasure Island, but I'm sort of afraid that it's going to be more childish than I expected. If anyone has read it tell me your thoughts.

It's not that childish. It was written for children, with subtle undertones for adults. I'd read it if I were you.

At 5/22/05 08:24 PM, morefngdbs wrote: I was directed here from the Tolkien site, I had posted about 2 sets of books written by Dennis L McKiernan they are the Iron Tower Trilogy & the Silver Call Duology, They are about middle Earth at the end of the 4th age into the 5th. There are vague references to stuff from the Lord of the rings, that puts them about a millenium after the Lord Of The Rings. They are not badly done at all. This guy grew up with Tolkien and I asume he just wanted the story to go on.

Welcome. If you'd like to post a more in depth review, it would be a lot more helpful.

At 5/22/05 11:14 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: I had no idea this site was getting posts at all... well, currently i am re-reading Jude the Obscure, while flipping forth to Selected Works of Poe. : D Good reading.

Not really a big fan of Edgar Allen Poe, but I did like 'The Raven' especially when it was used in the Simpsons and the Crow.

At 5/22/05 11:16 PM, darkdevil92 wrote: I am currently reading The Tallisman by Stephan King.
It is a very out of the ordinary book.
But I am a big Stephan King fan, what can I say.

Give us a review, I'm thinking about branching off into horror, at some point. Either that, or Crime.

At 5/26/05 04:11 AM, -Manic- wrote: HAve just started reaidng Dude wheres my contry by Micahel Moore. is quite an interesting read. When i finish it I'll give a full thing on it.

Good book. See also 'Stupid White Men' by the same author, it's funny, but provocative.

At 6/4/05 08:23 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: The Song of Ice and Fire Saga: George R.R. Martin.

Book1: A Game of Thrones
Book2: A Clash of Kings
Book3 Part1: A Storm of Swords : Steel and Snow
Book3 Part2: A storm of Swords: Blood and Gold.

Hi SCD, Great review, as always.

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Pandora's Star; Peter F Hamilton.

This book is fucking hot, i tells ya. The book starts out in the near future about 50 years from now. Man has discovered ways to travel vast distancies through a machine that makes wormholes. The book details how the world has changed and is now in for a big suprise. On the other side of the galaxy a huge shell has enclosed an entire planetary system. The human race decides to build the first faster than light ship with a portable wormhole generator on board to travel there and see whats going on. Once they get there the shell is suddenly switched off and a new alien race is found. This alien race started as a single cell and developed into a more complex subsystem of cells which can do many things on its own, basicly, this alien race is just one large being. Its a very evil thing and it wants the universe to itself, so he declares war on earth having totally wiped out all his enemies near his own planet. The war that takes place is spectacular, and mind boggling in many way, humans are fighting back, but dont stand a chance. People are trying to make pacts with other races but none are working. Over all their fucked, which is terrible news indeed. The books characters are easilly loved and loathed, which is what i think is Peters strongpoint, there was characters in this book i started off hating, and then loved them.

The book is 1100 pages of pure gold. I advise you guys to read it. This is the first part of the Commonwealth Saga which is great news for me, but the second part isnt out yet and its gonna be another 4 months until it is out. Over all i loved this book, its got me back intrested in reading Sci Fi again.

This is the best place to ask this, so what books should i buy now? Anything fantasy sci fi related will be considered. Ive also been told to try the Sword of Truth saga, anyone read or reading it, and is it worth it?

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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-05 16:40:15 Reply

At 6/5/05 04:33 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Pandora's Star; Peter F Hamilton.

I've read his stuff before... isn't it Sci-Fi with a blend of Horror?

This is the best place to ask this, so what books should i buy now? Anything fantasy sci fi related will be considered. Ive also been told to try the Sword of Truth saga, anyone read or reading it, and is it worth it?

Well, the one I was advised to read recently, was Conn Igulden's Emperor series. It's about Ancient Rome and all the betrayals leading upto the death of Julius Caesar. I'll read them at some point.


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At 6/5/05 04:40 PM, Coop83 wrote:
I've read his stuff before... isn't it Sci-Fi with a blend of Horror?

Indeed, hes a special author. Some of the things that happen in the book are downright terrible, but make for such a good read.

Well, the one I was advised to read recently, was Conn Igulden's Emperor series. It's about Ancient Rome and all the betrayals leading upto the death of Julius Caesar. I'll read them at some point.

Sounds quite good, maybe i'll check them out, thanks :)

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At 6/5/05 05:09 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Indeed, hes a special author. Some of the things that happen in the book are downright terrible, but make for such a good read.

Well, I've got two of his works: The Reality Dysfunction and The Neutronium Alchemist. They sound great, but I'm up to my eyeballs and beyond in Tolkien at the moment.

Well, the one I was advised to read recently, was Conn Igulden's Emperor series. It's about Ancient Rome and all the betrayals leading upto the death of Julius Caesar. I'll read them at some point.
Sounds quite good, maybe i'll check them out, thanks :)

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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-15 19:16:54 Reply

I wish this place were more active... But anyways.

I just finished "The Accidental Tourist" and "Nothing's Sacred"

The Accidental Tourist

It's a pretty basic tale of love and depression. A guy loses basically everything he has, and he meets a woman that helps change his life. The characters are very deep and well written, and there are little boring parts. The book sometimes wanders off and you read a lot of useless things, but they are usually entertaining. The chapters are usually pretty long, consisting of 10+ pages, and there are 20 chapters in the book. Sometimes it seems like there should be more chapters, and the book broken up into different sections, because some chapters are overwhelmed with events. A good story though, and especially worth reading if you're into "love" films or books, though you don't have to be to still enjoy this book.

8.5/10

Nothing's Sacred by Lewis Black

If you're a fan of Lewis Black, you should definitely read this book. If you aren't a big fan, you might still enjoy reading it. If you hate him, don't bother reading it.

The book is good, and a pretty quick read. I finished reading it in two days. It was interesting to see how Lewis Black's life has been, the things he's seen, and why he has his opinions. That's mostly what the book is; his opinions. You find out what his opinions are, and why he has them. You learn a little bit about his personal life, but not as much as I wished he told. Mostly it's his views of life and the government. My biggest problem with the book is that he repeats almost his entire act of "Lewis Black: Black on Broadway". If you've seen that stand up routine, you'll notice how the book repeats most of it. I didn't enjoy reading those parts, because it's stuff I've already seen him talking about, but the stuff I didn't know was interesting enough. Once again, I wish he dug more into his personal life than just his opinions on life, but it still ended up being a pretty good book.

7.2/10

That's all for now. I just picked up "Brave New World", so I'll begin reading that.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-15 20:09:10 Reply

Don't know if I posted this, but I am reading Ivan Turganev's 'Fathers And Sons'.

Bazarov. Well, some things he says aren't very....Nihilist. For a start, he believes in beauty.

Altohugh, I do very well understand that it is meant to be more about the political aspect, rather than the philosophical aspect, he did drift into that with "What's important is that twice 2 is four and the rest is nonsense".

I can't say Ivan is impressing me (which is practically blasphemy, judging by what I've heard, he is to Russia what Robert Burns is to Scotland (well, we don't have any great novelists (cept mabye Ian Banks)).


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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-16 22:19:24 Reply

I assumed a lot of the people in the Writer's Club would post in this thread too, but it does't look like it >:(

I know a lot more people read than this. This thread gets about one post every two weeks.


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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-17 11:18:45 Reply

At 6/16/05 10:19 PM, DirtySyko wrote: I assumed a lot of the people in the Writer's Club would post in this thread too, but it does't look like it >:(

Yeah i would have thought as much aswell.

I know a lot more people read than this. This thread gets about one post every two weeks.

Its a fucking shame, this place is like a haven from the normal fucktards that cant spell never mind read, but this place does deserve more users than it has.

Ive started reading the Sword of Truth Saga, by Terry Goodkind. Its a very good book so far, ive read ten chapters, all last night, it kept me hooked. I plan on reading alot more of his saga, and hopefully will purchase the other four books soon.

Review time.

Gazza: My Story.

Paul Gascoigne.

I know most of you wont know who this guy is, but Coop will im sure, and maybe a few others, but this is a good book.

He starts this autobiography with his life as a junior footballer for newcastle, detailing pretty much his hard life his poor childhood, and what football meant to him. Some of his stories of his life are extremely funny, some very very harrowing, its a wonder he has survived. A funny story from this book, is when Gazza asked his friend over to Italy to stay with him for a while. Gazza paid for his ticket over and Jimmy (his friend) boarded the plane, with no luggage, because he thought he was going to be staying for a day and be back home. Unbeknownst to him though, Gazza bought several tickets to different countries, and Jimmy had to visit each one in turn :D Jimmy arrived at Gazza's house 6 days later looking exhaustedand damn pissed off. A sad tale from this book, is when Gazza beat up his wife, he slapped and headbutted her infront of her children. He was so ashamed of himself, he started taking drugs to get away from his life. He phoned and asked Cheryl(his wife) if he could visit the kids a while after, and she said yes. On his way to see them, he realised, they would hate him for what he had done, he decided to kill himself. He was standing at the train station when he decided this and decided, he would throw himself onto the tracks when the next train came. He waited and waited. He finally asked the station master when the next train would arrive, the train master said, there would be no more trains today. He couldnt even kill himself to escape what he had done.

This book details Gazza's struggle through childhood, into his teenage years and beyond, the drugs, the tricks the football, and most of all his thoughts are prominent in this book. The struggle of Gazza's life would make any person feel for him, its truelly a shame that such a prodigious starlet of British football turned out the way he did. One of Gazza's mentors said this about him. " He should have been the greatest player of his generation but wasnt. Why? He simply lacked the dedication that distinguished the truelly outstanding sportsmen. His attitude throughout his career has been "Its my life, and i'll live it how i like".

Overall a good read if youre intrested in football and all things British, you wont like this if youre American, haha, sad but true.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-17 16:13:13 Reply

At 6/17/05 11:18 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Gazza: My Story.

Good book. I feel slightly sorry for him (though my dad doesn't understand and still writes him off as derranged.)


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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-17 16:20:53 Reply

Shit....you know, I keep forgetting about this place :-\
<bookmarks page so I don't forget again>

Anyway, I've recently just started reading "Dude where's my country?" by Micheal Moore. Its rather interesting although alot of what he is saying can be taken to be pure bullshit. At least that's the impression I've got so far. And I can't see it being that much different in the latter parts of the book.

Though i must admit, there are points where I actually laughed loud. Though so far they have been few and far between.

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Response to The Book Club 2005-06-17 16:33:14 Reply

At 6/16/05 10:19 PM, DirtySyko wrote: I assumed a lot of the people in the Writer's Club would post in this thread too, but it does't look like it >:(

They do... Manic (TNT) forgot about it, Myst posts here when he's got a free moment, while the others kind of play bit-parts and don't even know it exists.


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