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At 10/22/05 05:29 AM, Alkador wrote:

At 10/21/05 12:40 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote: The meaning of a transitive verb is incomplete without a direct object.
An intransitive verb cannot take a direct object.

So...
Transitive: "I went home."
Intrasitive: "It is raining."

You got the intransitive right, "I went" still makes sense though, you need to take out the object and read it back to work out whether it's transitive.
Another example:
"The sack carries grain."
If you take out the object of the sentence you are left with "The sack carries" which makes no sense, hence the verb is transitive.

Myst explained the active/passive better than I there :)

But what really rattles my brain is that Japanese grammar has 'causastive-passive verbs'. How can you have something that you are made to do if you are acting passive? Er, I don't know if you understand what I'm talking about, but I figured it's worth a shot.

Aha, I think I get this. So, let's review:
Active: Eat
Passive: Ate
Causative: Feed
And this leads me to the conclusion...
Causative-passive: Fed

It seems to be a case of the passive equivalent to the causative word. You might want to try experimenting with some other examples to confirm that though.

I'll try and read some pieces and post comments, 1's is top of my list right now, but I have a lot on at the moment (leisure-wise) so it might take a while. The next section of UNTITLED SCI-FI CRIME THRILLER is nearing completion... meaning that I have sat down to write it once, so another session should get the rest done.

At 10/23/05 01:47 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote:

Aha, I think I get this. So, let's review:
Active: Eat
Passive: Ate
Causative: Feed
And this leads me to the conclusion...
Causative-passive: Fed

Wait... passive should have been eaten, and that was all assuming you're using the past tense. Still, I have a feeling I fucked up something majorly there.
Blargh, brain thinky not work after hours of car dirving.

At 10/23/05 01:57 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote: dirving.

You see!? YOU SEE!?
BALRHGABBSHIBBLEEARRGABlELILELARGH!

Ignore everything that required more than basic brain functions in my last three posts.

lol, not only did I learn a little, but I was entertained. Man, you werent like this in the Immortal RP thread... you were always so serious. : )

At 10/23/05 02:09 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: lol, not only did I learn a little, but I was entertained. Man, you werent like this in the Immortal RP thread... you were always so serious. : )

That's because I was in NERD-MODE.

At 10/23/05 02:25 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote: That's because I was in NERD-MODE.

Haha, fair enough. Man, I tried so hard to keep up with that RP thread, but being someone who doesnt enjoy sci-fi so much, and never watched a single star trek in his life... it was hard to grasp, and be creative. : P

I havn't posted here in awhile. I promise I will give something after December. Right now I have to read Tale of Two Cities for the hundreth time. Why does every elnglish teacher make you read that book sure its got some great scenes in it, but it isn't that great of a book.
Peace

At 10/23/05 04:50 PM, Mick_the_champion wrote: Oh I've got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots

Did someone go to the cinema today? Kinky Boots?

At 10/23/05 04:50 PM, Mick_the_champion wrote: Oh I've got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots...

Ahaha! Too funny.

Coop, you feeling better?

And ya, I think I am dropping out of that freeworld thing. Sorry, it is just that I can never keep on top of it, and D&D doesnt seem to be my thing.

At 10/23/05 05:03 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: Coop, you feeling better?

I'm feeling better and I'll come up with a draft of the final piece tomorrow. Should post tomorrow night

And ya, I think I am dropping out of that freeworld thing. Sorry, it is just that I can never keep on top of it, and D&D doesnt seem to be my thing.

Ok, I'll knock you off the list then

At 10/23/05 02:55 PM, Myst_Williams wrote:

being someone who doesnt enjoy sci-fi so much, and never watched a single star trek in his life...

:O
ZOMGF
Nah, Star Trek kind of sucks, Voyager was the only good series. I derive 95% of my sci-fi knowledge from Star Wars and AvP, now there's a subject I know far too much about for my own good.

At 10/23/05 05:07 PM, Coop83 wrote: I'm feeling better

Awesome!

and I'll come up with a draft of the final piece tomorrow. Should post tomorrow night

Oh ya... for the collab you mean?

Ok, I'll knock you off the list then

Merci beaucoup.

At 10/23/05 05:13 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote: Nah, Star Trek kind of sucks, Voyager was the only good series.

Theres more than one series? : P

I derive 95% of my sci-fi knowledge from Star Wars and AvP, now there's a subject I know far too much about for my own good.

I have seen all the Star Wars, but back when your thread was up, I had only seen the first (or 4th - whatever)... so, I guess now I would be a little more prepared.

And AvP i can assume is Alien vs. Predator?

At 10/23/05 05:17 PM, Myst_Williams wrote:

Theres more than one series? : P

GASP AND SURPRISE!

And AvP i can assume is Alien vs. Predator?

Yup, although the books as opposed to the movie.

At 10/23/05 06:19 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote: GASP AND SURPRISE!

Ya, after I said that, I looked it up. See, I always thought that canadian guy was the star trek captain, and then the guy from the movies just took the canadians place... now I know, that it was two different series'. : )

Yup, although the books as opposed to the movie.

Cool. I didnt know there was any books. Man, I am so out of the sci-fi loop.

At 10/23/05 06:34 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: Man, I am so out of the sci-fi loop.

Haha, I am as lost as you are. XD

At 10/23/05 06:19 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote:

At 10/23/05 05:17 PM, Myst_Williams wrote:

Theres more than one series? : P

GASP AND SURPRISE!

Its still depressing that they canceled the series... If they hadn't have moved it to friday :(

At 10/23/05 06:34 PM, Myst_Williams wrote:

Cool. I didnt know there was any books. Man, I am so out of the sci-fi loop.

Speaking of books, I'm at something of an impasse on what to read next.
I have a choice of either some Star Wars, the latest trilogy advancing the plot of the expanded universe, or some more Stephen King.
You see I've been reading King's Dark Tower for a while now, I'm up to the sixth book out of seven, and I really feel like a break from this epic. The problem is that book five of the saga leaves the reader with a cliffhanger ending, so do I progress on with the Dark Tower to find out what happens, or go with some Star Wars for a little while?

Also out of interest, what is everyone else reading at the moment?

Oh no! my alt escaped.

BACK IN THE CLOSET NOW!!! OFF WITH YOU!!!

alt slinks off into the closet::

but yeah... oops

At 10/23/05 06:42 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: Oh no! my alt escaped.

BACK IN THE CLOSET NOW!!! OFF WITH YOU!!!

alt slinks off into the closet::

but yeah... oops

OH NOES!

At 10/23/05 06:38 PM, Andersson wrote: Haha, I am as lost as you are. XD

At least I'm not alone... : )

At 10/23/05 06:42 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote: Speaking of books...

Well, if the cliff hanger isn't eating at your brai ntoo much, then worry about it later and move on to the Star Wars books. : )

Also out of interest, what is everyone else reading at the moment?

The Turn of the Screw, and The Scarlett Letter (both for english)

At 10/23/05 06:42 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote:

Also out of interest, what is everyone else reading at the moment?

The last of the mohicans for english

and I want to be reading another book of my choice... (don't know what it is yet) but i find myself reading threads instead

At 10/23/05 02:09 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: lol, not only did I learn a little, but I was entertained. Man, you werent like this in the Immortal RP thread... you were always so serious. : )

I'm supposed to be the most serious user that exists within Newgrounds.

Doctor, I just discovered something terrible. Passive verbs in Japanese are totally different to that of English. You see, because the typical sentence is structured out as so:

Subject _ Direct Obect _ Verb.

Passive verbs have a totally different setting in Japanese and I would assume that causative passive have a different situation for existance as well.

Oh well, thanks for your help. At least I have understood how to use them in English, which might better help me write and achieve great things. ;)

I'll lurk around here. It's warm in here and I like that.

At 10/24/05 07:30 AM, Alkador wrote:

Subject _ Direct Obect _ Verb.

Bah, silly Japanese making up a language fundamentaly different to our own.

It's warm in here and I like that.

And sexy.

At 10/23/05 07:24 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: At least I'm not alone... : )

That's good to know. =P

By the way, how many of you in here have been thinking of or will write a Newgrounds story?

Atleast I am currently working on one called "Newgrounds: the Myth".

At 10/24/05 10:32 AM, Andersson wrote:

By the way, how many of you in here have been thinking of or will write a Newgrounds story?

I did a couple of NG-themed ones for DirtySyko's writing comp before it died.
Other than that I don't currently have any plans.

At 10/23/05 06:42 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote::

Also out of interest, what is everyone else reading at the moment?

Tom browns School days by Thomas Hughes...it is a real slog to get through> Curse my english teacher for choosing it for me A level text.

At 10/24/05 10:32 AM, Andersson wrote: By the way, how many of you in here have been thinking of or will write a Newgrounds story?

I haven't written a newgrounds story so to speak but I did have a go at writing an NG parody of the wizard of Oz...I really should get round to finishing that at some point.

Never felt the need to do an ng parody... at least not yet...

I'd want to come up with something thats higher than the average one... Not all of them are all that entertaining... and some are just downright copies of another work already out there with name substitutions... but meh... maybe someday

At 10/24/05 11:26 AM, -TheDoctor- wrote: I did a couple of NG-themed ones for DirtySyko's writing comp before it died.

Yeah I remember that.

At 10/24/05 11:34 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: I really should get round to finishing that at some point.

Yeah, I hate it when you stop writing or working on something great because you get sick of it.

I made an entire "Lord of the Rings" parody before on my friend's computer which I lost when it crashed. =(

At 10/24/05 11:43 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: Never felt the need to do an ng parody... at least not yet...

It doesn't have to be a parody. Mine ain't.

I'd want to come up with something thats higher than the average one... Not all of them are all that entertaining... and some are just downright copies of another work already out there with name substitutions... but meh... maybe someday

Yeah, I find most of them very boring, that's why I'm writing my own to show them that they can be good.

At 10/24/05 11:57 AM, Andersson wrote: I made an entire "Lord of the Rings" parody before on my friend's computer which I lost when it crashed. =(

Ouch. That's some really bad luck there.

I think I'm going to try my hand at completing that Oz Parody of mine...hell it'll give me soemthing to do over the week. NO school to go to and I have jack all to do. Joy :-)

At 10/24/05 12:01 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Ouch. That's some really bad luck there.

Tell me about it. =/

It was accurate too, each line that exsists in the book was parody:ed (Haha), everything. =/

Hell it'll give me soemthing to do over the week. NO school to go to and I have jack all to do. Joy :-)

Oh, I got vacation next week! ^^