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Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 13:16:20 Reply

I was just thinking how much carnege you could cause with a couple of tanks in
a roman war. That will show the fucking war elephants.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 13:17:34 Reply

probably a lot, but i don't see any tanks in a roman war now, do you?

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 13:21:37 Reply

Yeah, I've always thought that. Or to sink the Spanish Armada with a speedboat with machine gun mounted on it.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:00:10 Reply

Or bomb midevil castles.


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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:00:19 Reply

At 10/12/04 01:16 PM, dancingchicken wrote: I was just thinking how much carnege you could cause with a couple of tanks in
a roman war. That will show the fucking war elephants.

romans didn't use elephants.. the carthinigians did once but most died goin over the alps and they were too hard to control

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:02:18 Reply

Just about the most enjoyable thing to do would be to storm a castle with a suit of body armour and an M4.

^.^

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:03:05 Reply

It'd be better to go old war combat with new war guns. Give me a thompson m1a1 and I'd take down the Persian empire single handed.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:23:44 Reply

At 10/12/04 01:16 PM, dancingchicken wrote: I was just thinking how much carnege you could cause with a couple of tanks in
a roman war. That will show the fucking war elephants.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:24:16 Reply

Look up the Battle of Adowa in 1896. Italy had the best weaponry that the could have at the time, and the eithiopians were using mainly weapons form a couple centuries earlier, and the italians ended up losing the battle with around 6000 casualties.


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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:25:17 Reply

At 10/12/04 02:00 PM, mossy1 wrote:
At 10/12/04 01:16 PM, dancingchicken wrote: I was just thinking how much carnege you could cause with a couple of tanks in
a roman war. That will show the fucking war elephants.
romans didn't use elephants.. the carthinigians did once but most died goin over the alps and they were too hard to control

ahum ROME TOTAL WAR!!! you can play that historical battle plus you hear the story. hanibal rocks cuz he was like al though and came throw the alps....and won yay

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:27:50 Reply

At 10/12/04 02:24 PM, TarThoron wrote: Look up the Battle of Adowa in 1896. Italy had the best weaponry that the could have at the time, and the eithiopians were using mainly weapons form a couple centuries earlier, and the italians ended up losing the battle with around 6000 casualties.

The Taki Taki of Brazil similarly resisted colonization by the Portuguese even though they fought with wood and stone weapons.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:29:33 Reply

The same thing can be shown in a game such as Empires: Dawn of the Modern World.

In short, tanks>horses.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:30:02 Reply

The native americans did fairly well against the frontiersmen with simple bows and arrows. But yeah I think it would be awesome to be standing on top of a hill or something in Ireland, with William Wallaces entire army running at you full speed. Faces all painted, waving their pikes and short swords around. Then you just mow them down with a sub machine gun. Sweet.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:34:08 Reply

At 10/12/04 02:00 PM, mossy1 wrote: romans didn't use elephants.. the carthinigians did once but most died goin over the alps and they were too hard to control

OHH MAN WRONG, THE ROMANS DID USE ELEPHANTS JUST NOT OFTEN,

Probably the most famous campaign was the invasion of Greece after the Macedonian wars which split power between the greek states.

Regardless, the roman army had encountered war elephants long before the 2nd Punic war. The first contact between a roman army and war elephants was in the Pyrrhic war.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 14:50:28 Reply

ahum ROME TOTAL WAR!!! you can play that historical battle plus you hear the story. hanibal rocks cuz he was like al though and came throw the alps....and won yay

Um dude... Hannibal lost... He died... He made it to rome with 40% of his orignal army, and no elephants (they ate em in the alps)... Check ur history book on that one...

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 15:13:45 Reply

In WWI, the british would move in formation so that the germans only needed to do one sweep with a machinegun to whipe them out. Thats kinda a mixture of modern and old war.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 15:36:53 Reply

At 10/12/04 03:13 PM, Glenn-Urban wrote: In WWI, the british would move in formation so that the germans only needed to do one sweep with a machinegun to whipe them out. Thats kinda a mixture of modern and old war.

Ohh, so that's how World War One went.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 15:38:58 Reply

At 10/12/04 03:13 PM, Glenn-Urban wrote: In WWI, the british would move in formation so that the germans only needed to do one sweep with a machinegun to whipe them out. Thats kinda a mixture of modern and old war.

LOL.


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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 15:40:55 Reply

At 10/12/04 02:50 PM, Hypocritism wrote:
ahum ROME TOTAL WAR!!! you can play that historical battle plus you hear the story. hanibal rocks cuz he was like al though and came throw the alps....and won yay
Um dude... Hannibal lost... He died... He made it to rome with 40% of his orignal army, and no elephants (they ate em in the alps)... Check ur history book on that one...

yeah but i won with hanibal in the game , thats my point lol! yes i beleive all the history games and movies cuz in troy it was like ALL TRUEEEEE :\

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 15:41:57 Reply

lord nelson v hitler.

that would be fun for all the family.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 16:05:35 Reply

At 10/12/04 03:41 PM, dawsdani wrote: lord nelson v hitler.

that would be fun for all the family.

Hitler would just send bombers over the ships and they would try fire up at the planes but the cannon balls would come back down and they'd sink themselves. Hitler would win without having to drop a single bomb.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 16:16:52 Reply

At 10/12/04 04:05 PM, areyoureadyEddie wrote: Hitler would just send bombers over the ships and they would try fire up at the planes but the cannon balls would come back down and they'd sink themselves. Hitler would win without having to drop a single bomb.

So that's how World War One went.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 16:52:46 Reply

At 10/12/04 01:16 PM, dancingchicken wrote: I was just thinking how much carnege you could cause with a couple of tanks in
a roman war. That will show the fucking war elephants.

You've been playing total war too much, Damnit!!


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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 17:14:45 Reply

At 10/12/04 03:36 PM, El_Toro_Loco wrote:
At 10/12/04 03:13 PM, Glenn-Urban wrote:
Ohh, so that's how World War One went.

Yes, that is world war one summed up in sentences. One side charges, gets cut down by machine gun, other side repeats.


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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 17:20:57 Reply

At 10/12/04 05:14 PM, blink182x2 wrote:
At 10/12/04 03:36 PM, El_Toro_Loco wrote:
At 10/12/04 03:13 PM, Glenn-Urban wrote:
Ohh, so that's how World War One went.
Yes, that is world war one summed up in sentences. One side charges, gets cut down by machine gun, other side repeats.

Wow, you're very informative. Did you go to high school?

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 17:23:32 Reply

At 10/12/04 05:14 PM, blink182x2 wrote: Yes, that is world war one summed up in sentences. One side charges, gets cut down by machine gun, other side repeats.

ugh, you idiot, the British marching in formation was during the REVOLUTIONARY WAR. Repeat it with me kids. (revolutionary war... yay!).

WWI was caused by military buildup and competition between almost all of Europe. Alliances were made and eventually the tension came to a head when the Archduke of some random country was assassinated (I can't remember the country, but it was Franz Ferdinand and the people there hated him and were deeply insulted by him parading through their country on their independence day when he was the one who took their independence away from them). WWI was characterized almost completely by years and years of trench warfare, people would sit in trenches and take pot shots at the enemy with their machine guns and such, while the enemy shot back at them in the same manner. Nobody advanced because trenches were virtually impossible to take, and anyone who left their trench was immediately gunned down. The war ended with the Treaty of Versailles in France that decided the blame was to be placed on Germany, and Germany was heavily penalized for the war, including the disbanding of the military and some of their land being taken by other countries. This led to the resentment that many Germans felt towards the rest of Europe, and was part of the reason Hitler was allowed to rise to power before WWII, because he promised to get back all the stuff Germany had lost as a result of WWI.

That is the short version of the story, and the condensed version of that is: Every country in Europe was competing, and then there was a war that was mostly a stalement, and then it ended.

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Response to Modern War and Old war combined 2004-10-12 17:55:53 Reply

Warhammer 40,000 is a good example of modern war and old war combined.