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I feel like a retard right now because I obviously meant extinction instead of instinction :P

Bonjour!
So then... Last night I was kicking it with my good friend Chris and his girl Toni. Around 9PM, chris feel asleep and toni started to cuddle with me. She was rubbing my side and when she would roll over, she would rub my hand. I fell asleep, but Toni got up when Chris left and kissed him and whatever. When he left she cuddled with me like... super tight and she ended up zonking out. A few people know I like her, but it's like... weird. That's my buddies girlfriend, you know?
I didn't leave her house untill like Noon, today. I might go back later, though. Might stay the night and have her mom drive us to school or something.

At 5/3/08 12:49 PM, tatsumaru7 wrote:

so for the last couple of months i have tried to get her to hate me which was working and then a few days ago i went all "nice" couldnt help it and now shes talking to me, so how do i stop being so "nice" to her i cant help it anymore.

you could always move dude. yeah you cant be nice if your not there.

At 5/4/08 02:23 PM, CH4ZM4N92 wrote:

At 5/3/08 12:49 PM, tatsumaru7 wrote:

so for the last couple of months i have tried to get her to hate me which was working and then a few days ago i went all "nice" couldnt help it and now shes talking to me, so how do i stop being so "nice" to her i cant help it anymore.

you could always move dude. yeah you cant be nice if your not there.

It's not always an option to move. It is however your own choice to not approach her at all, ignore her and avoid her in general. It's better to let someone know how you feel or ignore them than to get them to hate you.

I'm not sure how to feel. I told Toni how I felt and we kissed. But now Chris has been cheated on.... Crazy shit...

Im goin with Vincoids ruling on this one.

At 5/5/08 11:06 AM, simon wrote:

At 5/3/08 06:38 PM, Vincoid wrote: Pretty simple, don't do anything. You can't stop her from going and if you don't know what to do now, you will certainly not be able to do anything in those two weeks. And even if you do, which is doubtful, you'll only feel regret about her leaving.

I do agree with you in a way not to do anything, but once she's gone, he'll also feel regret about not actually doing anything, or saying anything to her before she was gone, if I really did like someone before they had left, I would certainly regret if I didn't say anything to a girl I liked before she was gone, this way if he says something, it'll give her something to think about while she's away, plus we don't even have any idea of how far she's going to transfer to her new school, it could only be about 20-30 minutes away, that's suitable for a relationship if they was to get together and try something out.

My advice personally would be to definitely say something to her, if she doesn't think anything of you, the worst she will do is ignore you, move away and move on, at least this way she can't ridicule you infront of dozens of people because she won't be there. Take this as an opportunity, anything is possible, and I know this from experience.

Sure, but the only reason why I adviced this is because he already went one step beyond what I do. That's liking. I only find girls I've not yet met attractive, I never feel a feeling of liking towards them before I get to know them. Saves me a lot of emotional bullshit ;)

It's not your hormones, it's called evolutionary psychology. Back thousands of years ago, when humans lived in small groups, failure with a woman could mean the difference between instinction or survival of your genes. Nowadays such things don't exist anymore due to most of us living in large communities, but those primal fears still live inside us. You just have to realize that you're not losing anything and that there are more women around than just this one. You have to realize that this one girl isn't special, nor is any other girl special. Don't idolize women. Don't place her on a pedestal like she's some higher being.

If no one was to idolize women or to think a girl is special over other girls, then there wouldn't be a thing called love or to care about with so much passion to drop everything for, which results in marriage, etc. Obviously you wouldn't consider them a higher being, because no one is higher than one another, but you would think that in a way to yourself, to think that there's more woman other than that one is the words of a player, some people might not want to play you feel me?

I think of men and women as being of equal value. You can't idolize another person without thinking of them as more than you. Plus I will never put a woman on number one, that's where my dreams and goal in life is and will always be. But just because I don't idolize women doesn't mean I can't love them. Let alone marry them. It's not something I plan to do because I simply think it's nonsense. And if you think of marriage as a commitment in which you give up certain things just to officially be together (which they didn't do in the cavemen ages and they were fine) then I don't see any reason to get married.
Getting together with a woman by giving up what's yours is not the way to do it.

And what is player about ignoring a girl because she isn't available on the long-term? I thought players seduce women in order to sleep with them a few times while sleeping with others and continiously moving on to the next girl(s).
Thinking that there are more girls than just this one is a simple way to keep you from feeling loss over something you didn't actually lose. It has absolutely nothing to with being a player.

At 5/5/08 01:20 PM, simon wrote: In the lines of marriage, I know that it NEVER says that you should put your wife before yourself, which is why I think you're a bit perplexed with what I'm saying, it just says to care and comfort for your wife as long as you both shall live, etc (I know the full lines, just can't be bothered).

But as I said, I respect both decisions in the matter and I think that should be the end of it.

I think the same way about it, it's just that I don't see a reason to marry because the amount of care and comfort is the same in a relationship as in marriage. (And I'm not perplexed btw, just expressing my opinion :P)

Getting together with a woman by giving up what's yours is not the way to do it.

No, obviously not getting together with someone, because that's just a relationship, a bonding between two people who love each other (well not all the time - but most of the time), what I meant with in that way is when you're giving commitment to each other later on.

True, but I think it goes all the way with that. The only thing you should give up when in a relationship is the possibilty to meet other women, get to know them and have sex with them. Besides that I wouldn't give up anything. (Maybe something less obvious than this which I can't get my mind on right now, but basicly things that have to with being single).

And what is player about ignoring a girl because she isn't available on the long-term? I thought players seduce women in order to sleep with them a few times while sleeping with others and continiously moving on to the next girl(s).
Thinking that there are more girls than just this one is a simple way to keep you from feeling loss over something you didn't actually lose. It has absolutely nothing to with being a player.

The word player in the context that I used was completely used in a jokeful way, I didn't intend to offend you, of course I didn't mean that you slept around with a lot of girls, I know nothing about you! I apologize for being rude about that.

I didn't get that it was a joke, can have to do with the fact that I had to read it three times before I got what you were saying :P
But by any means, I'm not offended at all.

At 5/5/08 02:13 PM, simon wrote: I completely forgot to mention if I could be a part of this crew?

I've guided a Newgrounds member Jake for about a year now with his relationship and it's come down hard to me that I love to help people on this subject, but I have no clue who accepts people in this topic anymore because the original starter looks like he doesn't post anymore.

I don't believe he posts here anymore, but everyone is welcome and so are you.

As for giving up habits and such like you said, I believe you're talking about habits like body twitches, picking your nose, that kind of stuff?
Because if you do, I believe that those kinds of habits are created by comfort. And since you obviously want to feel comfortable when around the other person, you have to eliminate habits like that before even approaching a girl, not when you're getting married or getting into a relationship.

As for marriage, I know what you mean, but I would personally never want to get married. I can't find one single reason why I would. Showing her or my family that we're serious is something I can't give a fuck about because it's not about them or what they think. And I'm not religious, so that one doesn't matter to me either. Nor do I think marriage is some kind of special last thing to make the bond complete. Getting married isn't going to make you more connected. At least, not in my opinion :P

Oh well, time will tell :)

Last rant, welcome to the crew mate :D

I'm upset with many people from my classroom.First of all, I'm the most intelligent and responsable of my class, and also the person that gets the highest grades. But I'm not hated, in fact, I get along with many people of the high school, but the problem is: EVERYBODY ASKES TO ME THE HOMEWORKS FOR THE NEXT DAY, EVERYTIME!!!!!!!! God, they're the laziest people EVER! they don't take note of the homework, why? becuase they have their nerd that reminds them the homework. God... they ask to me by MSN, myspace and/or via phone call... EVERYTIME!
And a few moments ago, I posted a bulletin on myspace telling that I'm really upset! I told that they should be more responsable and stop asking to me every...time.
But if I had 60 friends before posted the bulletin... now I have 48. Some people started to hate me, and I don't know what to do. It's unfair, If it wasn't for me my class wouldn't be so fucked up! Becuase my class always get the last place on grades XD
If I stop reminding them the homework, even if I say to them that in a good mood, they would still hate me.

WHAT SHOULD I DO??? I DON'T WANNA BEING HATED! =(

At 5/5/08 05:06 PM, pigeonmaster88 wrote:

WHAT SHOULD I DO??? I DON'T WANNA BEING HATED! =(

AndI know this isn't a trouble related to dating or meeting girls, but I would like to hear an oppinion from you guys.
You're always helping people and I hope you help me.

Just live above the influence. Just say "Dude, I can't do this shit for you everyday".

At 5/5/08 05:20 PM, pigeonmaster88 wrote:

At 5/5/08 05:06 PM, pigeonmaster88 wrote:

WHAT SHOULD I DO??? I DON'T WANNA BEING HATED! =(

AndI know this isn't a trouble related to dating or meeting girls, but I would like to hear an oppinion from you guys.
You're always helping people and I hope you help me.

Well technichly this is a relationship crew and people count as a relationship, just not an intamite(sp?)

What's up, guys? alright, so today, I wrote a note to Toni telling her how I didn't regret the kiss or nothing like that. And she asked me if I was gonna tell Chris about it and I told her no. And she said okay, cool, but I don't think we should do that ever again. So like, she keeps telling me to come over and shit and spend the night. And she really wants me to come over when her mom ain't home and shit. I'm just confused as to what is going on.
I told her I liked her after we kissed and she said that she liked me too and we kissed again. Then we just cuddled, holding hands, kissing every now and then. When my mom got me, she kept kissing me and wouldn't let me leave. She finally let me go and kissed me and smiled 'See you tomorrow' And now we can't do it anymore!? Fuck man...

Find a single girl :p

At 5/5/08 06:41 PM, simon wrote: I guess it varies on each individual, I myself would love to get married, maybe not right this moment, but sometime in the near future, I would gladly take my girl down the aisle, I'm that committed with her that I may even propose sometime soon. So I think my rant will be a bit biased towards my side because I'm actually thinking about it at the moment. In someways it can make you more connected FOR THE TIME BEING that is, there's a strange thing about getting married where the couple start to realize how much they love each other when they're thinking of vows etc, and can actually bring them closer, but saying that, marriage can also bring a couple so close together that they might get sick of each other, which leads to most divorces these days.

At 5/5/08 04:17 PM, Vincoid wrote: As for marriage, I know what you mean, but I would personally never want to get married. I can't find one single reason why I would. Showing her or my family that we're serious is something I can't give a fuck about because it's not about them or what they think. And I'm not religious, so that one doesn't matter to me either. Nor do I think marriage is some kind of special last thing to make the bond complete. Getting married isn't going to make you more connected. At least, not in my opinion :P

But, opinions are opinions!

You guys piss me off. Simon is telling me that I should propose to show that me and my girlfriend are planning to be together until death, and vincoid says that i shouldnt give up any of my ambitions to be with her. I'm leaning towards agreeing with simon though, because he brought up this whole family issue. But, also as Vincoid says, it might restrict my college choices, and essentially my career choices. My body can't be used as a tug-o-war rope, okay?

By the way, does the fact that i cheated once make me universally hated, 'cause thats how it seems.

Also, pigeon-mastah, i would ask everyone what the assignment is before they ask you, because if they dont know, just say, "well, now we're both fucked, thanks for returning the favor!".

At 5/5/08 11:09 PM, JoeyNukes wrote: Find a single girl :p

I wish shit was that simple for me. I liked Toni while I dated Ember. Chris ain't gonna be around long. He's going to jail on the 14th. And for a long time, too. So basically, I can weave my way with Toni, while he's locked up.

At 5/6/08 12:42 AM, Black-Lightning wrote: I wish shit was that simple for me. I liked Toni while I dated Ember. Chris ain't gonna be around long. He's going to jail on the 14th. And for a long time, too. So basically, I can weave my way with Toni, while he's locked up.

The plot deepens...

At 5/5/08 11:42 PM, sweet-tooth-pico-fan wrote:

At 5/5/08 06:41 PM, simon wrote: I guess it varies on each individual, I myself would love to get married, maybe not right this moment, but sometime in the near future, I would gladly take my girl down the aisle, I'm that committed with her that I may even propose sometime soon. So I think my rant will be a bit biased towards my side because I'm actually thinking about it at the moment. In someways it can make you more connected FOR THE TIME BEING that is, there's a strange thing about getting married where the couple start to realize how much they love each other when they're thinking of vows etc, and can actually bring them closer, but saying that, marriage can also bring a couple so close together that they might get sick of each other, which leads to most divorces these days.

At 5/5/08 04:17 PM, Vincoid wrote: As for marriage, I know what you mean, but I would personally never want to get married. I can't find one single reason why I would. Showing her or my family that we're serious is something I can't give a fuck about because it's not about them or what they think. And I'm not religious, so that one doesn't matter to me either. Nor do I think marriage is some kind of special last thing to make the bond complete. Getting married isn't going to make you more connected. At least, not in my opinion :P

But, opinions are opinions!

You guys piss me off. Simon is telling me that I should propose to show that me and my girlfriend are planning to be together until death, and vincoid says that i shouldnt give up any of my ambitions to be with her. I'm leaning towards agreeing with simon though, because he brought up this whole family issue. But, also as Vincoid says, it might restrict my college choices, and essentially my career choices. My body can't be used as a tug-o-war rope, okay?

By the way, does the fact that i cheated once make me universally hated, 'cause thats how it seems.

Also, pigeon-mastah, i would ask everyone what the assignment is before they ask you, because if they dont know, just say, "well, now we're both fucked, thanks for returning the favor!".

sweet tooth. my man. do you love the girl. i mean really love the girl. would you die for this girl. if so then all that shit doesnt matter. well it does but it doesnt. you can still prapose to her and be engaged and go to the college you want and get the job you want. thats why your engaged and not married. being engaged is making that commetment to her to be hers and only hers. then you set the date for later. and if she is willing, then shell come out and stay with you. or she can stay were she is and you can stay in contact, i wouldnt suggest the later trust me. but i say go for it if its truely what your heart wants. everything after that will fall in place when you work on it. good luck to you and remember, itys not the size of the rock that matters, its the size of the heart behind it she loves.

Pigeonmaster: What would you rather want to be, a slave or a friend? Because you tell us about those 60 friends, but it doesn't sound to me like they're actual friends. You need to realize that you're the one in control and you have to decide which one you want to be. Tell them they need to start doing it for themselves and take their own responsibility, and if they don't, force them to do so by not giving them the info anymore. There is a difference between giving info because someone forgot or was sick and being a slave to all.

B-L: I have to agree with JoeyNukes, but I think you handled that situation the right way.

Sweet-tooth: Don't mind me. You have to make that choice for yourself just like not marrying is a choice of my own. All I'm saying is that if marriage means giving up my dreams, then I won't ever consider getting married. But it doesn't have to be like that, most people think it is but it's not, you can get married without giving up your future etc. You don't have to be around her 24/7 just because you're married or engaged, you can still do what you want. And most of the time, if a girl is really in love with you, she will be ready to give up some of her own to be with you.

This is just my opinion and I know some won't agree, but if the girl you're with isn't willing to let you have your dreams and follow them, then I don't think you should be with her. I myself could never give up my dreams for a girl, but I can give up a girl for my dreams since they are worth so much more to me.
Plus a man going after his dreams is attractive to women, why would you ever give that up? The irony is that some women try to have you give up those things that initially sparked the attraction so other women won't try to steal you away. They often don't realize that they won't be attracted to you afterwards because you gave her the power over you.

I told her I liked her after we kissed and she said that she liked me too and we kissed again. Then we just cuddled, holding hands, kissing every now and then. When my mom got me, she kept kissing me and wouldn't let me leave. She finally let me go and kissed me and smiled 'See you tomorrow' And now we can't do it anymore!? Fuck man...

i don't understand this part.. your mum got you, then you kept kissing her?!

I think he meant his mum called him..and toni wouldnt let him leave LOL

im baaaaaaaaaaaack!!!

black lightning, the dude is going to jail right. that means the relationship is over between them right. so why are you worried. if its not over you need to let her know that there relationship needs to be over befor you go any further. just lay down those rules and everything will be ok. but you have to ask yourself if all you are to her is a fling. and if thats true then shell lose interest. If your friends not going to jail and she continues but wont leave you alone then leave her alone. shes a two timin whore and you should tell your friend. make it fun and set up a trap. But dont fuck around with her if shes still with your friend.

i think pidgeonmaster should start chargin