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At 3/3/09 09:43 PM, Grade-Zero wrote: Hello gentlemen. I have started a project of mine called Project Box. The goal is to make Snake's Box a viable attack in Snake's metagame. The box has really high priority, so if you throw it off of the ledge while an opponent is trying to recover, they will be interrupted by the box and get gimped. Today, I PROVED that this actually works. While playing against Cool's Marth, the box his him out of his Up B and stage spiked him. What does this mean? Hopefully, a new way for Snake to comedically defeat his enemies.

Can Snake actually pick his own box up? I thought it was completely scripted, so it just disappeared when he got up if someone didn't pick it up off him.

If it is a viable strategy, then it would be pretty neat.

At 3/4/09 01:20 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: Can Snake actually pick his own box up? I thought it was completely scripted, so it just disappeared when he got up if someone didn't pick it up off him.

If it is a viable strategy, then it would be pretty neat.

Actually, no, he doesn't pick up his box. When he exits his box, he throws it off of himself backwards. If Snake puts his back to the edge of a stage, and uses his taunt, he will toss it over the edge, hurting anyone that gets hit by it. It's supposed to mess with certain recoveries.

At 3/4/09 01:40 AM, Grade-Zero wrote: Actually, no, he doesn't pick up his box. When he exits his box, he throws it off of himself backwards. If Snake puts his back to the edge of a stage, and uses his taunt, he will toss it over the edge, hurting anyone that gets hit by it. It's supposed to mess with certain recoveries.

Nice. Also, if it actually can break through Marth's Dolphin Slash, that must mean it's got incredible priority too.

It's a funny idea, and it'll leave a "WTF!" moment.
Good for mind games as well.

Good luck gimping Pit with your box.

At 3/3/09 04:27 PM, DocSprite wrote:

At 3/3/09 03:50 PM, joabos wrote: Question, how does a person play in a tourney?

Well, offline tournies are pretty obvious, but for online tourneys the host sets up brackets (or whatever, I've never really been in an online tourney) and the players that have been matched up set up times for their matches and report their results to the host.

Anyone who knows more on this subject? I'd really like to take part in an online tourney, but it seems EVERYONE ON THE WHOLE INTERNET knows...

Just go to [URL]http://allisbrawl.com/[/URL for tournaments man, and I guess I could explain it if you go to [URL]http://xat.com/crinkland[/URL] see you there ^^

Opps! I'm so used to having to use the URL tags on AiB that I forgot I don't need them for newgrounds. Anyways, the links still work, so if I can't help you, I'm sure somebody can.

At 3/3/09 09:10 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: Where have you been my man? We've had... 4?5? tournies in the past? they've all quite competitive wifi. It's a shame, but it could be for the better.

The last tourney was fun for the most part besides the minor lag issue we had. and It's too bad we could never meet up on the same time for the team tourney.

Unfourtenetly we have some people here who take tournaments way too seriously, like its matter of Life or Death. Amazing how it's the same people who always talk about how much they've participated and appreciated other tournies, but it just so happens that the one they participate in this club is the one they find a deep revulsion for.

And then there's the complaining over the tournament rules... surprisingly this only happens after they've been eliminated.

not naming names

At 3/4/09 01:20 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: Can Snake actually pick his own box up? I thought it was completely scripted, so it just disappeared when he got up if someone didn't pick it up off him.

If it is a viable strategy, then it would be pretty neat.

Supposedly, the player can choose when Snake removes the box. You can either let him sit there for the entire duration of the taunt, or you can end the taunt (pick the box up) early by pressing the taunt button again. I'm not sure if this is true, but I read that somewhere, so it might also help with the gimping.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Snake's box outprioritizes every recovery move that hits upward. How long does the box stay though? Does it only disappear when the box goes below the blast line, or does it vanish after a set amount of time like some projectiles?

At 3/4/09 02:44 PM, mrbobbyjoe wrote:

At 3/4/09 01:20 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: Can Snake actually pick his own box up?

Supposedly, the player can choose when Snake removes the box.

Yes you can end the taunt early.

Here's another way to use the Box as a weapon. (Although the box doesn't do any damage here, and your opponent has to have an IQ of a rock to fall for this):

1. Place landmine while opponent is distracted.
2. Move away so that the landmine is between you and your opponent,
3. Get inside Box
4. Opponent sees his moment to strike and rushes towards you
5. *enemy steps on mine and explodes into oblivion*

At 3/4/09 02:44 PM, mrbobbyjoe wrote: Supposedly, the player can choose when Snake removes the box. You can either let him sit there for the entire duration of the taunt, or you can end the taunt (pick the box up) early by pressing the taunt button again. I'm not sure if this is true, but I read that somewhere, so it might also help with the gimping.

Yeah, you can end it early. At least, I'm almost positive you can.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Snake's box outprioritizes every recovery move that hits upward. How long does the box stay though? Does it only disappear when the box goes below the blast line, or does it vanish after a set amount of time like some projectiles?

You mean dropping it off the edge??? I'll give it a shot today and get back to you. My brother will want to know, since he likes to use Snake.

I hate the box as a taunt, because it takes up two very good taunt spots. I've never thought of it as an interception, though...

At 3/4/09 03:44 PM, Truth wrote: Yes you can end the taunt early.

Sweet. When I get back home from Uni during Easter, I'm definitely going to have a go at this ^_^

Here's another way to use the Box as a weapon. (Although the box doesn't do any damage here, and your opponent has to have an IQ of a rock to fall for this):

1. Place landmine while opponent is distracted.
2. Move away so that the landmine is between you and your opponent,
3. Get inside Box
4. Opponent sees his moment to strike and rushes towards you
5. *enemy steps on mine and explodes into oblivion*

If you actually manage to get someone with this, I decree you have the right to immediately pause the game, and dance up and down like a madman, laughing in you opponents face consistently. You also can fart on them if you have one saved up :P.

immaturity FTW?

I second paradox's decree.

At 3/4/09 07:02 PM, DocSprite wrote: I second paradox's decree.

I third that.

At 3/3/09 09:43 PM, Grade-Zero wrote: Hello gentlemen. I have started a project of mine called Project Box. The goal is to make Snake's Box a viable attack in Snake's metagame. The box has really high priority, so if you throw it off of the ledge while an opponent is trying to recover, they will be interrupted by the box and get gimped. Today, I PROVED that this actually works. While playing against Cool's Marth, the box his him out of his Up B and stage spiked him. What does this mean? Hopefully, a new way for Snake to comedically defeat his enemies.

I will totally help you with this, GZ. *shakes hand*

I'm not going to chat much, but I'm always going to have a tab open to this thread. I've decided it's time to bring the SSBC back to it's glory days (aka. the days before I joined!)

Peace, brahs.

At 3/3/09 09:43 PM, Grade-Zero wrote: Hello gentlemen. I have started a project of mine called Project Box. The goal is to make Snake's Box a viable attack in Snake's metagame. The box has really high priority, so if you throw it off of the ledge while an opponent is trying to recover, they will be interrupted by the box and get gimped. Today, I PROVED that this actually works. While playing against Cool's Marth, the box his him out of his Up B and stage spiked him. What does this mean? Hopefully, a new way for Snake to comedically defeat his enemies.

I can help too! I will be an experimental hamster to test out some techniques in battle if you wanna test em. Plus, im kinda easier to beat so pulling off your test will be easier if you wanna try it in real battle.

At 3/4/09 02:12 PM, Truth wrote:

not naming names

Can't be me, I didn't participate in the last tourney, because I predicted the very thing that happened.

At 3/4/09 10:57 PM, Underload wrote: I'm not going to chat much, but I'm always going to have a tab open to this thread. I've decided it's time to bring the SSBC back to it's glory days (aka. the days before I joined!)

I will totally help you with this UL *shakes hand*

I'll get on it, sir. My brother wanted to have a go at some Brawl anyways, so maybe I can get some videographic evidence to follow along with it..

At 3/5/09 12:13 AM, Rocker23220 wrote: I'll get on it, sir. My brother wanted to have a go at some Brawl anyways, so maybe I can get some videographic evidence to follow along with it..

BTW, the old encryptor page we used to have to change the .bin files is down. Do we know of any other way of converting files, (mostly video files) so we can use them somewhere???

And I'm not exactly sure what to look for when doing the box recovery thing, but I noticed it stopped a couple people, but it didn't stop others.

At 3/5/09 12:48 AM, Rocker23220 wrote: BTW, the old encryptor page we used to have to change the .bin files is down. Do we know of any other way of converting files, (mostly video files) so we can use them somewhere???

I didn't think there was a converter for the Brawl video files, since the way Brawl saves them isn't actually video, but is similar to how Vector graphics programs save images- as a series of actions that the characters do that are then decoded by Brawl into (what seems like) video.

At 3/5/09 02:49 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: I didn't think there was a converter for the Brawl video files, since the way Brawl saves them isn't actually video, but is similar to how Vector graphics programs save images- as a series of actions that the characters do that are then decoded by Brawl into (what seems like) video.

Oh...umm....okay then.
Well then how do all the people on Youtube get their videos up there?

I've found one of the best uses for the box drop is against Snake's Up-B recovery. It practically stops you in your tracks if the box falls on you.

At 3/4/09 10:57 PM, Underload wrote:
I'm not going to chat much, but I'm always going to have a tab open to this thread. I've decided it's time to bring the SSBC back to it's glory days (aka. the days before I joined!)

Peace, brahs.

Oh boy. Accusing me of killing the thread with my chat. then making forums on the aib group. You weren't even there during the "glory days" or whatever you want to refer to them as.

@Rocker: you get a capture card, gamebridge, or video camera. It's the only way.

I think the box can work really well on tether recoveries. But they're easy to gimp in the first place.

I just connected my wii to wifi! Played a few games with jab. Really laggy, but I think it's possible to play some aussies or japs. So, what do ya say Karl? Get on chat? Let's have some matches!

Well, the box has no effect against Toon Link, he can shoot a projectile at it, and even if he does get hit by it, he can still recover.

At 3/4/09 11:28 PM, knuxrouge wrote:

At 3/4/09 02:12 PM, Truth wrote:

not naming names

Can't be me,

I wasn't referring to you,
Although you did manage to bring that 10-page Drama-Queen Saga into the crew. I'm not entirely sure what started it all... something about landmines, metrosexuals and/or spamming. All I know is that I must have somehow beaten you in dramatic fashion causing the episode to come to an end.

good times, good times

At 3/5/09 08:56 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: I just connected my wii to wifi! Played a few games with jab. Really laggy, but I think it's possible to play some aussies or japs. So, what do ya say Karl? Get on chat? Let's have some matches!

You probably wont have THAT much lag with me, I think that Europe is a bit closer to Indonesia then America.

At 3/5/09 12:23 PM, Truth wrote: I wasn't referring to you,
Although you did manage to bring that 10-page Drama-Queen Saga into the crew. I'm not entirely sure what started it all... something about landmines, metrosexuals and/or spamming. All I know is that I must have somehow beaten you in dramatic fashion causing the episode to come to an end.

10-page-Drama-Queen Saga??? What did I miss while I was gone??

Yeah, I've noticed a couple of people whose recoveries aren't affected by the box.
I don't have any special equipment, and the screen on my camera is broken, so maybe I'll see if I can use my laptop cam to record some (hopefully decent) quality.

At 3/5/09 12:48 PM, Nikenick wrote:

At 3/5/09 08:56 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote:

You probably wont have THAT much lag with me, I think that Europe is a bit closer to Indonesia then America.

My crude map begs to differ.

Anybody on America's West Coast that would like to fight? I'd probably get less lag that way, haha