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I just relized one other thing between TS and Enforcer.
The elitism, both constantly talked about peoples votes being of less worth than another, especially those that disagree with his views. That's what really reminds me of enforcer.

At 9/2/04 03:34 AM, KirbyMan wrote: I just relized one other thing between TS and Enforcer.
The elitism, both constantly talked about peoples votes being of less worth than another, especially those that disagree with his views. That's what really reminds me of enforcer.

Very true, but enforcer had a certain amonut of class to go with the elitist views. They bopth seem to tell others that their opinion doesn't matter because you are less of a person. Enforcer was more so like this on economic issues, whille TS is like this on all of the non issues.

vote your fear in 04......

Schwarzenegger is nuts...

At 9/2/04 02:58 AM, CI-Lain wrote: our worthwile liberals(quanzie, kirby and i guess antiklaus)

what a sec. just cuz i oft defend liberals don't mean I am one. I'll bash Clinton worse than any of yoooz guys - Repunklicans or Demoncrats....

so there.

At 9/2/04 07:29 AM, antiklaus wrote:

At 9/2/04 02:58 AM, CI-Lain wrote: our worthwile liberals(quanzie, kirby and i guess antiklaus)

what a sec. just cuz i oft defend liberals don't mean I am one. I'll bash Clinton worse than any of yoooz guys - Repunklicans or Demoncrats....

so there.

I know, i know. how bout i reword it. "It puled some of the more respected sometimes liberal posters out of the woodwork."

And klaus I know you can bash clinton. Im almost willing to bet your the only person here who could paint a truthfull and bad picture of Clinton with out having to say "OMG Blowjoberz"

And klaus I know you can bash clinton. Im almost willing to bet your the only person here who could paint a truthfull and bad picture of Clinton with out having to say "OMG Blowjoberz"

har - i was playing thin skinned for the point of devil's advocate, but it's good so see I'm at least somewhat appreciated =)

At 9/1/04 10:47 AM, TruthSpeak wrote: I've choked on something before, does that make me a bad person??

Yes! You are evil!

At 9/1/04 11:25 PM, Angel_Of_Death_666 wrote:

At 9/1/04 11:54 AM, Quanze13 wrote: dear invisible guy,
The president has someting called a "national security advisor," say it with me n-a-t-i-o-n-a-l s-e-c-u-r-i-t-y a-d-v-i-s-o-r. This person is incharge of national secutity. They are suposed to help the president protect the country. Clinton's national security advisor told Bush's national security advisor that Al Quieda was going to attack the united states. But The Bush white house didn't do shit about it. That was total incompetence. It WAS bush's fualt, and dont' try to say anything otherwise.

Blah blah blah.
If it had been Gore in office, the same thing would have happened. Only it probably would have been worse, because he would have cut military spending to donate to the "save an owl" fund. Get a grip. 9/11 was going to happen anyway, no matter who was in office.

yeah, blah, blah blah. Try and laugh me off, because you know that i'm right. Gore WOLUD have done a better job. He would have been paying attention to national security, rather than kicking back at his crawford ranch. Did you know that George W. Bush, up untill 9/11 spent the most days on vacation of ANY PRESIDENT!!! I mean, while FBI and CIA agents were uncovering facts about 9/11 and trying to get bush to do something about it, he was EXPLAINING TO REPORTERS WHICH OF HIS DOGS WAS PRETTIER!!!!!!! I mean, ANY president would have done a better job with this. But, i must say, had it been gore, all the news media and pundits would have been all over him like: 'this is a failure of national security, you should be impeached!!" It's like, the conservatives have such a total double standard.

At 9/2/04 02:49 AM, KirbyMan wrote: It began with TS complaining about people attacking the president as if he never did it. I called him on it, and he freaked out. The conversation progressed into a flamewar between TS and Quanze.

Stop lying to people.

95% of the liberals on this board are as stupid as the children protesting in the streets.

Uhhh, Truthspeak, that wasn't a lie. It did progress to a flamewar between us. Dude, both of us are being a little immature, and i think we would both enjoy the boards more and have better discussions if we stoped falming each other. OK?

At 9/2/04 11:16 AM, Quanze13 wrote: Uhhh, Truthspeak, that wasn't a lie. It did progress to a flamewar between us. Dude, both of us are being a little immature, and i think we would both enjoy the boards more and have better discussions if we stoped falming each other. OK?

I never truly attacked Bill Clinton when he was president first of all, so you didnt call me on it. The only attacks I made against clinton were very justified:

1. When he lied under oath.

2. When he didnt respond to any of the 4 terrorist attacks, especially the USS cole.

If you want to stop fighting, thats fine with me.

well, actually, you said how bush was being totally character assasinated, and when Tal-Con and I pointed out that the republicans did that to clinton, you called me stupid and a fag.

At 9/2/04 11:26 AM, Quanze13 wrote: well, actually, you said how bush was being totally character assasinated, and when Tal-Con and I pointed out that the republicans did that to clinton, you called me stupid and a fag.

How was clinton character assassinated?

If you mention when he lied under oath...yes..and he deserved it. In fact, he deserves to be in jail.

The fact that he lied about having sex with a woman in the oval office, although against the law, wasn't such a big deal. What congress should have done, instead of try to impeach him, censured him. When congress censures a president, they formally express their displeasure with the president without taking legal action. Did Clinton lying about fucking some bimbo endanger the country??? I don't think so, so they shouldn't have impeached him. But the republicans made his small act of misconduct into a huge national circus for 4 years. that is character assasination, blowing his flaw out of proportion to cover up his many graces.

You ran that marijuana thing into the ground, HE DIDN'T INHALE, DAMNIT, HE DIDN'T INHALE.

huh?

You don't remember "I smoked marijuana but I didn't inhale." That's a classic. Eh maybe I'm losing it.

didn't gore say that?

No, Clitnon

meh. one of those damn liberals from the 90's. jkjk

At 9/2/04 10:57 AM, John_Kerry wrote: 95% of the liberals on this board are as stupid as the children protesting in the streets.

98% percent of facts are made up :)

At 9/2/04 12:22 PM, CI-Lain wrote:

At 9/2/04 10:57 AM, John_Kerry wrote: 95% of the liberals on this board are as stupid as the children protesting in the streets.

98% percent of facts are made up :)

78.361% of facts about fact being made up, are made up also....

This thread has gone way downhill... I guess that's what TS hads done to us. He as abandoned all reason, so we have just rejected anything he says and all political talk altogether... Now this is true politics...

I'm wasting time on here defending protestors who (while I agree with a lot of their message, and certainly their rights to protest) are often at odds with my own personal opinions.

I COULD BE WATCHING BATTLESTAR GALACTICA !!!

Damn you TS for criticizing the democratic process!

ooooo, battlestar galactia

At 9/1/04 10:47 AM, TruthSpeak wrote: “The president didn’t go into Iraq because the polls told him it was popular. As a matter of fact, the polls said just the opposite. But leadership isn’t about polls.

That's the entire point of representative democracy. They're supposed to follow the goddammned polls, because that's what We the People want to happen.

At 9/1/04 01:12 PM, TruthSpeak wrote: Lets see, Clinton attacked 4 times, no retaliation
Bush attacked once, erradicates taliban, iraqi dictator, and liberates 50 million people.

With all of that accomplished, we have yet to destroy Al Qaeda and get rid of Osama Bin Laden. I would also thank Bush for going full force into Iraq without more careful planning of the aftermath. They surely got the infrastructure of Iraq up and running in no time.

It seems like the Taliban is returning to Afghanistan. I've been hearing this more frequently.

If that war's purpose is to free people, then it has become pointless and costly-- meaning that just perhaps, our wars' purpose may be a little bit more sinister with roots based in greed and the lust of increasing material wealth.