Police Response To Nyc Protestors

[Just-Think]

Apparently, some protestors in NYC decided to lay in the street and block traffic. The police threatened arrest, and made good of their threat, arresting dozens of protestors. Protesting is great, but seriously, if you're going to block traffic and threaten the well being of the people who need to get to places (e.g an ambluance needing to get to a hospital, a firetruck going to put out a fire), then you've gone to far. What do you guys think? Is lying in the streets going too far, or a legitimate form of protest?

[theburningliberal]

I've never been to New York, but I know people who have. And the way they talk about traffic, I have this to say:

How is it any different than usual?

[witeshark]

Lying in the street to protest is pure idiocy! How is stopping all those people that have nothing to do with your problem or ideas gonna help? People that stupid must not have anything worth saying!

[antiklaus]

At 8/31/04 11:05 PM, Just_Think wrote: Apparently, some protestors in NYC decided to lay in the street and block traffic.

It's a good thing they weren't blocking a gas truck or they could have been arrested as terrorists. Thank you patriot act.

[Just-Think]

At 8/31/04 11:16 PM, theburningliberal wrote:

How is it any different than usual?

Haha true, traffic in NYC is bad, but still

[Gooie]

Thank god, get rid of those dumbasses, if you can't hold a calm and peaceful protest DON'T

[TruthSpeak]

I love the protestors. They are debilitating the democratic party with their nonsense.

You know, three years ago police and fireman were hero's for their actions on 9/11. We are now witnessing pro-kerry (or maybe just anti-bush) strategists on the streets attempting to hit and kick police officers, spit on them, block firetrucks and ambulances from passing. Are these the people that support John Kerry and the liberal party? These people screaming peace, welfare, "bush lied", and "iraqi oil" really want us to believe that they are intelligent with their law breaking and rhetoric???

These people are misfits, and an embarrassment to the democratic party. If I were a democrat witnessing these acts, I would denounce them immediately.

You know, freedom of speech is given to all americans, whether you are a person of intelligence, or are a person of idiocy - and the protesters I have witnessed in the last few days seem to represent the latter. And their actions only succeed to support the exact opposite of the messages they are trying to get across.

I truly feel sorry for anyone who holds the same views as these protestors, beacuse their actions have a direct reflection on the intelligence of your beliefs.

[fli]

And that's what civil disobediance is all about. People are protesting against an unjust war, a man who is anti-constitutional, and willing to sacrafice people to make certain groups slightly richer.

[Gooie]

At 9/1/04 12:06 AM, TruthSpeak wrote:

:Good stuff

They also took a poll and 33 or 39% of them want communist or socialist government and of course its anti-bush, pro kerry? LOL

[fli]

At 9/1/04 12:06 AM, TruthSpeak wrote: I love the protestors. They are debilitating the democratic party with their nonsense.

How so? They're excercising what it is to be an American-- more truly patriotic then to be a "yes-man".

You know, three years ago police and fireman were hero's for their actions on 9/11. We are now witnessing pro-kerry (or maybe just anti-bush) strategists on the streets attempting to hit and kick police officers, spit on them, block firetrucks and ambulances from passing. Are these the people that support John Kerry and the liberal party? These people screaming peace, welfare, "bush lied", and "iraqi oil" really want us to believe that they are intelligent with their law breaking and rhetoric???

Many people, although not smart, just have enough common sense to know when a bad thing is a bad thing. But yes, it is hard to hard for many people to conduct themselves when faced with overwhelming mob-mentality. But why condemn them when Republican protestors behave the same way in the past?

These people are misfits, and an embarrassment to the democratic party. If I were a democrat witnessing these acts, I would denounce them immediately.

You know, freedom of speech is given to all americans, whether you are a person of intelligence, or are a person of idiocy - and the protesters I have witnessed in the last few days seem to represent the latter. And their actions only succeed to support the exact opposite of the messages they are trying to get across.

I truly feel sorry for anyone who holds the same views as these protestors, beacuse their actions have a direct reflection on the intelligence of your beliefs.

I share the same view as these protestors. I believe that Bush has done several wrong things and things must be changed. So I am not as intelligent as you. But as the Great Bard said, "The fool doth think he is wise, but the wiseman knows himself to be a fool."

[BeFell]

I say let the protesters do whatever they want, maybe once all of the destruction is over people will see the difference between Bush and his "peace loving" opponets.

[antiklaus]

At 9/1/04 12:06 AM, TruthSpeak wrote: I love the protestors. They are debilitating the democratic party with their nonsense.

So lots of people making the news with their protests is a bad thing?

You know, three years ago police and fireman were hero's for their actions on 9/11.

And Bush promised, while still standing on the rubble of the WTC, literally with dead firemen under his feet that he "would not rest" until Osama was captured.

Months later, he claims Osama is not a priority, and instead launches a war on a tyrant responsible for gassing a few odd thousand of his own people, while meanwhile the people responsible for the Rwandan massacre of 800,000 civilians went unchallenged.

We are now witnessing pro-kerry (or maybe just anti-bush) strategists on the streets attempting to hit and kick police

Don't mistake propoganda for reality. Most of the protestors got permits and peacefully took to the streets.

The police has a record of inventing attacks upon their own (example: A San Francisco resident captured digital photos of 3/21 SFPD motorcycle wreck, which the Chronicle blamed on an imaginary gang of protesters.) and they have a long record of using violence against protestors.

block firetrucks and ambulances from passing.

I have yet to hear of a protestor intentionally blocking a firetruck or ambulance - or of a fire raging out of control becasue the trucks couldnt make it. Cite me one example during this protest.

Are these the people that support John Kerry and the liberal party?

They are simply a sample of New York - in all of its glorious diverstiy. If you wanted a RNC without protests, they could have held it in Texas. I know for a fact that Enron Center was built with the RNC in mind. You have to wonder what the Houston Taxpayers who built it are thinking now?

These people screaming peace

Oh my god! He's asking for Peace! Kill him right?

welfare

I've watched almost an hour of the protests, heard no welfare chants. But I'll say this, I'm against welfare. Those lazy no good corporations who get three times the amount of free government handouts that go on our social programs should get off the dole... and stop running to the bohamas for tax shelters, and taking jobs to Taiwan.

"bush lied"

If you are naive enough to believe a politician is incapable of lying you should really find a different playground. You are setting yourself up for a serious fall.

and "iraqi oil"

Maybe not the only reason for going there, but its a solid perk, huh? WE all realize that Iraq had to go, not for any other fact than by switching to the Euro for OPEC oil trading they would have crippled our economy. If Bush had claimed that in his march to war, I could have respected him for his candor. Instead... we get a cock and bull revisionist story about democracy...

really want us to believe that they are intelligent with their law breaking

A few isolated pockets of trouble and you are ready to call them lawbreakers. (FYI, in my community of less than 30K people, a fraction of the number of protestors - police get no less than 12 calls a day). If we extrapolated this to the protestors, they seemed mild by comparison, eh?

and rhetoric???

Rhetoric in politics? Amazing. Especially considering the people who while inside the convention center where claiming the virtues of compassion while bashing gays and encouraging unilateral application of force.

These people are misfits

Who? The protestors? All 400 thousand of them? If that's misfit then they are in big company.

Or are you talking about the politicos inside the convention?

and an embarrassment to the democratic party.

Exercising your democratic rights as one voice is an embarrassment?
I suppose you would prefer craven backroom shady deals - a la Enron?

If I were a democrat witnessing these acts, I would denounce them immediately.

If you are speaking about the isolated incidents, I'm pretty sure that they are not endorsed by anyone.

You know, freedom of speech is given to all americans, whether you are a person of intelligence, or are a person of idiocy - and the protesters I have witnessed in the last few days seem to represent the latter.

Seem? well perhaps because they don't support your personal view... but remember, the ideal of this country is a democracy. If we cannot embrace it in all of its forms, then how do we give any credence to the sacrifices of those who fight for those freedoms?

And their actions only succeed to support the exact opposite of the messages they are trying to get across.

If you are going to judge a group of 400,000 people based upon the actions of a few (some of whom are republicans purposely stirring up trouble to make the protestors look bad) then you are as guilty as the people who blame Bush for the actions of the soldiers in Abu Ghraibe (which I do not - I do however hold the intelligence community as largely responsible).

I truly feel sorry for anyone who holds the same views as these protestors, beacuse their actions have a direct reflection on the intelligence of your beliefs.

I feel truly sorry for people who hold the view that protesting is wrong. They dilute the ideals of democracy. They simply give it lip service, but are too weak to take action when it is needed.

[JoS]

Im telling you, its those dam Nader supporters, not Kerry supporters. How many people protested outside Naders convention. Zero. Point proven.

[bumcheekcity]

At 9/1/04 12:26 AM, BeFell wrote: I say let the protesters do whatever they want, maybe once all of the destruction is over people will see the difference between Bush and his "peace loving" opponets.

Amount of wars started by hippies: 0.
Amount of wars started by Republicans...

You were saying?

[theburningliberal]

How many people attended the Nader Convention?

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