Ads in the Classroom? Yea or Nay?

[antiklaus]

What is the function of a classroom?

Is it to educate or advertise?

As if people didn't have enough exposure to unwanted advertisment in ads on TV, on the web with pop ups, and in their favorite magazines.

Suddenly we have an influx into the schools.

Channel 1 - provides 'quality' programming complete with pay-for-play ads on them. Over 1.8 billion dollars in wasted classtime is spent every year watching the ADS on Channel 1 alone.

Corporate logos are omnipresent in schools... in many Coke machines have overtaken milk or juice as a source of liquid refreshemnt in your lunch.

One student was even expelled for wearing a Pepsi t-shirt on a school sponsored 'Coke Day'

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DUO/is_26_40/ai_55427425

Is this a good practice?

Shouldn't funding come from the states and not the corporations?

[Gunter45]

It's a sad trend, but this is capitalism for you. I don't like coporations moving in to the schools, but they have the money to do so, and thus, they can. In an age where a lot of schools don't get enough federal and state funding to operate effectively, they have to turn to other sources, like booster clubs and corporations. The corporate sponsors provide valuable money that is used by schools.

[antiklaus]

At 8/16/04 01:19 PM, Gunter45 wrote: It's a sad trend, but this is capitalism for you. I don't like coporations moving in to the schools, but they have the money to do so, and thus, they can. In an age where a lot of schools don't get enough federal and state funding to operate effectively, they have to turn to other sources, like booster clubs and corporations. The corporate sponsors provide valuable money that is used by schools.

Yeah, but how about the fact that corporations are changing school policies, and influencing education in a negative way?

[Gunter45]

At 8/16/04 01:32 PM, antiklaus wrote: Yeah, but how about the fact that corporations are changing school policies, and influencing education in a negative way?

Never said I liked it, but services go where the money is.

[BAWLS]

This is one of those, "I'd do something about it if I could, but I can't," type of things. The schools never had to take the company's offer, but they needed some extra money and this seems like an easy way to get it.

[The-Enforcer]

I personally think marketing in general needs reform.

Not many people enjoy having ads shoved down their throat, especially in your e-mail. I get 34 e-mails every morning and the only one I read is the daily dilbert strip. Everything is else is penis enlargement pills, viagara, or something else that wants me to "fill my wifes cunt" to quote verbatim.

Fax machines are particularly horrendous. Companies send you a fax and use YOUR ink and paper to send an add you don't want. That is completely unaccpetable.

I swear these marketing advertisers would place images into your head at night if they had the ability to do so.

[Gorelax]

wow, i didnt realize it was so bad in the us, here in canada we have a pop machine or two, but there arent any advertisements anywhere around the schools.

[RedSkunk]

Nay.

Although it's to be expected. The school has traditionally been for indoctrinating students on the joys of the state. Now, with our corporate government, it's indoctrinating on the joys of big business.

[antiklaus]

At 8/16/04 02:02 PM, The_Enforcer wrote: I personally think marketing in general needs reform.

Not many people enjoy having ads shoved down their throat, especially in your e-mail. I get 34 e-mails every morning and the only one I read is the daily dilbert strip. Everything is else is penis enlargement pills, viagara, or something else that wants me to "fill my wifes cunt" to quote verbatim.

Dude. Your email box sounds like mine. Even with junk mail screening, I have to sort through dozens. And the sad part is I already have changed email accounts twice in a year to avoid them - to no avail.

Fax machines are particularly horrendous. Companies send you a fax and use YOUR ink and paper to send an add you don't want. That is completely unaccpetable.

No kidding. And it only gets worse. If you make the mistake of getting someone elses number (as I had the misfortune of) you get all the crap they were getting - the crappy business related faxes and collection agencies looking for them... gah! And noone wants to take responsiblity.

The phone company says, "Call the police"
The police say "File a civil action"
The courts say "It's a phone company issue"

WTF???

I swear these marketing advertisers would place images into your head at night if they had the ability to do so.

It sounds like that Futurama episode... where they beam commercials into your dreams. And yeah... I agree - if they could - they would.

I intentionally answer every telemarketing poll I possibly can, just to make sure that they are recording the conversation. And then I let them know (politely) why I will never buy the products that I see advertised. I inform them that noone can possibly make a decision based upon what you can slam into their heads in 30 seconds - and I let them know that I have developed a knack at tuning out popups and commercials and billboards. And that if I don't recognize the email adress- into the trash it goes.

Maybe - just maybe if enough people do the same - the ad agencies will catch on.

[bumcheekcity]

I don't like ads in a school. Monewy should definitely come from the Government, and not Companies. They'll be changing the names next:

"What school d'you go to?"
"Dr. Pepper Comprehensive"

[mrpopenfresh]

Nobody likes ads in schools.

Im talking billboard style. If ever computers are donated by Dell and they choose to put their name on the wall, then thats fine. Something like McDonald sponsered arythmics is just ridiculous.

[GooieGreen]

Nay!

I think my High School Cisco teacher dropped enough names for one students life. I think we need to keep the ads out, unless they are Playboy Ads, then I say Yea!

[mrpopenfresh]

At 8/16/04 05:40 PM, GOOIE wrote: Playboy Ads, then I say Yea!

That would make the best. anatomy. classes. evar.

[TheWakingDeath]

Yeah, I wouldn't have failed health in highschool if they did that.
Yes, I failed health.

[RedSkunk]

Don't feel bad, I failed DARE.

[Montgomery-Scott]

HAHA, u failed DARE? oh man. no offence to you, but it is just funny. I can just imagine the happy nice poliece officer who is supossed to teach you how bad drugs are pulling out his gun and pistol whiping you. so anyway, it sucks taht companies are bombarding kids with adds even in school. We have enough of this advertising bullshit to wory about out of school, let alone in it. Well, we live in a highly corporate socioety, so there is nothign we can do about it.

[StatiK]

I see no problem with the general concept of subtle advertising in schools. My school has vending machines (all Coca-Cola), and we have a scoreboard in our gym that has fairly big Coca-Cola and Powerade logos on it. Things like that are reasonable, especially if the company donates to the school. If the company donates to the school in a significant, I think it's alright that they expect some subtle advertisements. Things like company sponsored events, expelling a child for wearing an opposing company's T-shirt, etc. are ridiculous. I think the companies who go overboard are preying on many school's lack of funding. If public schools got the money and resources they deserved, they wouldn't need to put a billboard up in order to buy new textbooks.

[witeshark]

Absolutely NAY! Ads are invading too many things! Y advertisers! FUCK YOU! You show me an ad that interrupted what I was watching or doing I WON'T spend a fucking dime on what ever it was! And the classroom it the last place on Earth such shit should show up! Oh, and spammers/pop ups makers must die!

[Phineus]

At 8/16/04 12:50 PM, antiklaus wrote:

One student was even expelled for wearing a Pepsi t-shirt on a school sponsored 'Coke Day'

I think i speak for everyone when i say that THAT is just ridiculus
forgive me for my horid spelling.

[Madadder]

At 8/16/04 08:19 PM, witeshark wrote: Absolutely NAY! Ads are invading too many things! Y advertisers! FUCK YOU! You show me an ad that interrupted what I was watching or doing I WON'T spend a fucking dime on what ever it was! And the classroom it the last place on Earth such shit should show up! Oh, and spammers/pop ups makers must die!

Says the man with the Macintosh logo spinning as his sig. Sorry it kind of struck me as odd that you would be speaking about this kind of bombardment advertising. Great, I go back to my ad blitz of a school in a day so now I'm bitter. I remember my coke was confiscated by a teacher because it was a Coca-Cola product and my county is owned by Pepsi. The teachers found out and went after the dean for what was happening to our school. We still have the Products here, but no aid is allowed to take our stuff away. Worst of all, we are one of the richer schools in the county. I can't imagine how bad it would be at a school that doesn't get funding from the state. They have these bad supplies, small classes, and outdated textbooks, and yet the state gives the money to the schools that perform better in standardized tests because we have all the new stuff. So these schools have to hop on the advertising game or else the are doomed to shut down. Another reason why these standardized tests need to be removed or at least changed so places, like where my mom works, a special education school, get more from the state. DAMN YOU BILL OWENS! DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL! That really is all I've got to say about that.