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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-13 23:40:40 Reply

I think that if prostitution were to be legalized, it could be a reasonable part of the economy. I think it would be viewed and run in much the same way as the pornography industry would. I think if well regulated it could be a good idea.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-13 23:48:40 Reply

Of course it should be legalized. There really don't seem to be any valid excuses not to legalize it.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-13 23:49:28 Reply

It would have to be loacated on the outskirts of a city mostly, because it would lower land value probally and get alot of complaints about that from people living in the immediate area, especially in res areas. Like strip clubs, if you start housing near by you get complaints.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 00:09:20 Reply

It would have to be strictly controlled and regulated. Naturally.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 00:19:32 Reply

As a concept, I would still have to oppose it. I would have to see a workable plan in order to make a final decision.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 00:33:07 Reply

I don't see why it got illegelized in the first place. For centuries, brothel and bordellos where a common sight. Now, if you want to see erotic women, you have to go to a shoddy strip bar where women look like your mother, or go in the most broken-down, sleazy part of town to get a piece of venereal infested ass.

If women want to do a natural thing that everybody does on a regular basis, is completely natural and for the most part, quite pleasurable, then do it! Prostitution is one of the oldest profession if not the oldest.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 00:39:25 Reply

It relies on government oversight I believe. It would be controlled by the government in my mind - owned and operated. There would be a process to decide where to place a brothel - it would be an intensive search, obviously. Outside of cities, as some suggest, would probably be necessary. No one wants to live near a brothel, but. Fuck, no one wants to live near nuclear reactors either.

The premises would have to be up to a high standard of cleanliness. This are all no-brainers, but just pointing them out.

A short screening process would be necessary for the customers - I don't think actual tests would be logistically viable. But a screening process, with questionaire etc, similar to the one for giving blood, would be implemented.

As far as the prostitutes, it would be necessary to have very stringent screening processes before hiring one. Etc & so on. (A question crops up as I write this - would the gov't be able to deny applicants based on looks?).

Condom use would be mandatory (as would birth control perhaps?). A complete check-up for std's, etc would have to be carried out, monthly perhaps. Some people say testing more often, but it gets to a point where it's just pointless. For instance - AIDS can remain 'invisible' for quite awhile - this is true of other std's, to a lesser extent.

Hmm, have I got it all? A brief overview.... I think it should remain in the hands of the state - this way, the state would collect all the profits, which would aid funding for the local community. And inviting private businesses into the racket, would only invite corner-cutting.

This wouldn't entirely eliminate street prostitution (which would remain illegal under my plan), but it would severely curtail it.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 00:45:56 Reply

Of course, the price would shoot up incredibly.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 00:51:09 Reply

Surprisingly enough, I don't know how much it costs currently. But I image that price increases wouldn't have to be so astronomical... The profit margin would be smaller though.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 00:53:26 Reply

It should be made legal. That way there is less law and the geeks and nerds can get some non-geek & non-nerd action. Note: Asia Carrere is a self-proclaimed nerd, hey they ain't all ugly.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 01:02:36 Reply

At 8/14/04 12:51 AM, Skvnk wrote: Surprisingly enough, I don't know how much it costs currently. But I image that price increases wouldn't have to be so astronomical... The profit margin would be smaller though.

Nowadays prostitue are usually very depriveledged women who really can't do anything else. If prostitution whould be legal, then the quality will go up as well. Now bitches'll be high class and demand a better price for their services. With all the extra, like HIV test and other necessary things.

Legalized prostitutions would be businesses with establishment and whatnot, not a street job.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 01:07:41 Reply

At 8/14/04 01:02 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote: Nowadays prostitue are usually very depriveledged women who really can't do anything else. If prostitution whould be legal, then the quality will go up as well.

Pop, just because I've never solicited one before, doesn't mean I'm totally out of the loop.

Now bitches'll be high class and demand a better price for their services. With all the extra, like HIV test and other necessary things.

Kinks to be worked out.

Legalized prostitutions would be businesses with establishment and whatnot, not a street job.

Definitely. Health benefits, retirement benefits. Damn. Although, they'll be paying income tax now


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 01:10:34 Reply

$_$ I smell tax revenue....

In addition to the aforementioned benefits, governments, could also levy taxes on it, which could go to social programs and services or just to the general budget. Lets say 10% of America bought a ho for the night, with $10 tax, once a year, that's a quarter of a billion dollars, right there.

Heck, between Clinton and Ted Kennedy, we'd be back into a budget surplus in no time!


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 01:25:07 Reply

The Monster Raving Lunatic Party want sex available on the NHS. If they get in, I have the feeling I will be feeling sick a lot.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 05:05:22 Reply

At 8/13/04 10:21 PM, -theFUNK- wrote: yeah, and it will cut down on masturbation, which is always a good thing.

I know you're joking FUNK, but it's actually a more serious manner. Injuries of the genetalia for both men and women are MUCH more likely to happen if someone masturbates compared to if they have sex.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 07:10:41 Reply

There's nothing I could say that hasn't been said... Well done everybody...

So...

Who wants to go to Vegas with me?

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 08:01:53 Reply

At 8/14/04 12:45 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote: Of course, the price would shoot up incredibly.

actually, one of the fundamental laws of business states that with increased SUPPY of a product, there will be more competition and in turn, competitve price drops to attract a larger section of the market. prices would do anything but rise. mabe in the short term, but with time, things would even out to a level which works for the customer AND the business. if prostitution was legal, there would be alot of brothels set up this = more prostitutes which also = more competion and lowered prices.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 08:02:27 Reply

as far as religion goes, the brothels in London were the property of the Bishop in the miccle ages. In old pagan societies prostitution was acknowledged by the religions. It could be safe if the girls (and boys) had a union to watch over their interests.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 08:09:27 Reply

At 8/13/04 05:49 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Sure, but there has to be hot girls... They should make them pass a cleanliness and a looks tests to be one.

What, like in strip clubs?

Safer than masturbation? Ummm... I'd like to hear about some of these masturbation related injuries...

well, this was the only one vaguely like it that I could find at such short notice:
BBS Topic, I Broke my Penis this kind of thing would never have happened if he had gone to a brothel.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 11:01:06 Reply

It would also be much safer for the prostitutes. No pimps to beat them, and far less likely for a John to beat them if they have to show ID and what not to get in, plus with a security guard downstairs or something to kick their ass.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 12:36:50 Reply

At 8/14/04 05:05 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: I know you're joking FUNK, but it's actually a more serious manner. Injuries of the genetalia for both men and women are MUCH more likely to happen if someone masturbates compared to if they have sex.

WTF? I mean, I had an uncle who died of auto erotic asphyxiation (no shit), and a friend who got a beer bottle stuck in his ass (also true, I believe I've posted it before). Now that I think about it, masturbatory injury must be the most underreported injury.... and considering I know of at least two cases, there's no telling how many more there could be......

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 15:46:00 Reply

At 8/14/04 12:36 PM, -theFUNK- wrote: WTF? I mean, I had an uncle who died of auto erotic asphyxiation (no shit), and a friend who got a beer bottle stuck in his ass (also true, I believe I've posted it before). Now that I think about it, masturbatory injury must be the most underreported injury.... and considering I know of at least two cases, there's no telling how many more there could be......

Exactly. Masturbatory injuries are, of course, widely unreported. Now, prostitution involves none, when regulated, because the girls dnt let u do anything. Except sleep with them, of course...

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 17:00:32 Reply

Makeing it legal won't by any means destroy the consept of a street hooker. WIth reasonable restrictions like age, health and drug screenings in the legal places the dirtier girls will still be out there, but it might affect their price structure.


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 17:03:42 Reply

At 8/13/04 06:19 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Interestingly, from some european countries to the US, the age for drinking ranges from 14 to 21, and the age for sex varies from 12 to 21. There were no typos there.

actually in fact teh legal age for consuming alcahol in the UK is 5. And you can buy alcahol in belgium at 12.

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 18:57:33 Reply

At 8/13/04 08:53 PM, Blue_Skvnk wrote: The healthy, happy prostitute in a brothel, because that means society is condoning an act that pushes the line between acceptable and unacceptable.

Condoning prostitution would be no less than eliminating morality standards when it comes to the sexual world. We would be condoning what may be the straw that breaks the camels back, as the saying goes. By your own admission, prostitution is a low act, and one that many people find disgusting. Condoning prostitution would basically say that, in the eyes of the government, selling sex is just as permissible as selling candy bars.

Although I won’t really say ‘yay’ or ‘nay’ to the question of legalization, what right do you have to impose your morals on others?

The woman (or man!) has a right to choose what they do with their body.

Our society makes sex into a disgusting, almost unnatural thing. When, in reality it is (cliché alert!) the most natural thing on the planet.

Eating is another natural thing, and we pay for food…


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 19:26:54 Reply

I just started a masturbatory injury thread in General, and it was immediately FLOODED with reports of masturbation related injuries.

Maybe prostitution is the better solution after all.....


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 20:15:51 Reply

At 8/14/04 07:26 PM, -theFUNK- wrote: I just started a masturbatory injury thread in General, and it was immediately FLOODED with reports of masturbation related injuries.
Maybe prostitution is the better solution after all.....

And I also noticed that you asked whether prostitution was better.

FUNK, you should know better. Most of those kids are under-age. How in the hell can they know the joys of a prostitute, whereas all they've done is masturbate? You're going to get everyone saying "OMG MASTURBATION IZ BETTUR THEN HOOKERS!" when most of them haven't even had sex yet?

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-14 22:32:24 Reply

I guess that's what I get for expecting General to have sense.... never mind....


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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-15 12:34:41 Reply

funny. There was once an age where prostitution was looked upon as a normal habit, and mistresses were common, while homosexuality was a detriment to God. So why is it now that prostitution is such a horrible thing, but being gay is looked upon as normal? Other such twists in ideals include: polygamy, education (school used to be a "snooty" thing), and women's rights. Who are we to base laws of our country on ideals of the current time? Are we going to change the laws every 20 years to reflect the current standing of the world? I think the bigger picture needs to be taken in when considering such things.

In short, looking at the bigger picture, I would legalize prostitution. There will always be men (and...I guess women also) who can't get sex on their own, and will want to pay for it. By legalizing it, we keep the prostitutes off the street, and hey, maybe we will see a drop in rapes reported if sex is more available. (I know not all cases are purely motivated out of sexual drive, but some are).

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Response to Prostitution 2004-08-15 14:22:01 Reply

At 8/13/04 10:01 PM, Blue_Skvnk wrote: Dude, what self-respecting parents would say to their son/daughter, 'Go ahead, honey. Go sell your body for sex. We think its an appropriate career for our flesh and blood'?

Utter nonsense.

You obviously have way too high of an opinion of families in America. I know a couple single, drunkard parents who would have their children be prostitutes. They already force them to work so they can have money so I don't see the jump being too radical since the pay would be better anyway.

Anyway here's my take on it. If you can't make the effort to go out and find someone who is as promiscuous as yourself, you don't deserve the sex, but that's not a realistic outlook so I would be in favor of legalizing prositution. People do it illegally anyway and it's safer than drinking so I don't see any reason why it should be illegal.