They all lied???

[tre-x]

Everyone says bush lied about there being WMD's. IS that why you're not gonna vote for him? If so, I reccomend you just vote for Nader.
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/wmd.htm

[FatherVenom]

At 8/12/04 10:09 AM, dark_trex wrote: Everyone says bush lied about there being WMD's. IS that why you're not gonna vote for him?

The lying wasn't so bad as the fact that he took our nation to war because of it. There are many, many reasons people aren't going to vote for him, loss of first amendment rights, the drilling of national parks, his horrible economic plan, etc.

[bumcheekcity]

At 8/12/04 10:31 AM, FatherVenom wrote: The lying wasn't so bad as the fact that he took our nation to war because of it. There are many, many reasons people aren't going to vote for him, loss of first amendment rights, the drilling of national parks, his horrible economic plan, etc.

His point though, I believe, is that the Democrats are just as bad as the republicans when it comes to telling porkies.

[FatherVenom]

At 8/12/04 10:37 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: His point though, I believe, is that the Democrats are just as bad as the republicans when it comes to telling porkies.

I knew that and of course they are, just as all political parties are capable of lying.

[bumcheekcity]

At 8/12/04 10:40 AM, FatherVenom wrote: I knew that and of course they are, just as all political parties are capable of lying.

Anybody is CAPABLE of lying. it's wether you do lie...

"Saddam Hussein definately had many weapons of mass destruction, armed and aimed ready for the west, ready to go off in 45 minuites"

[Angry-Hatter]

Fear propaganda. They try to make you believe that you might die any moment, while making you ignore the true dangers in the world, such as pollution.

[bumcheekcity]

At 8/12/04 11:31 AM, Angry_Hatter wrote: Fear propaganda. They try to make you believe that you might die any moment, while making you ignore the true dangers in the world, such as pollution.

Never worked for me. We've just got these things through the post about "What to do in the event of a terrorist attack". I threww mine in the bin without looking beyond the contents page.

[mrpopenfresh]

Not one of those politicians said anything about war or invasion.

[Angry-Hatter]

At 8/12/04 11:43 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote: Not one of those politicians said anything about war or invasion.

Of course not. Then nobody would've voted for them. Don't you think any politician would do anything to get into the white house and then stay there? I bet they're probably really jealous of saddam hussain. They all want to be the dictators of the world.

[mrpopenfresh]

At 8/12/04 11:51 AM, Angry_Hatter wrote:
Of course not. Then nobody would've voted for them.

Well not really. Since when is the american people anti-war?

I bet they're probably really jealous of saddam hussain. They all want to be the dictators of the world.

There's this thing Bush said once. Don't remember it entirely, but I'm sure most of you know it. "I'm telling ya, a Dictatorship would be a helluve lot easier to run", or somehting like that.

[bumcheekcity]

At 8/12/04 12:23 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: There's this thing Bush said once. Don't remember it entirely, but I'm sure most of you know it. "I'm telling ya, a Dictatorship would be a helluve lot easier to run", or somehting like that.

I favour a liberal dictatorship. If everyone has maximum Social Liberties, but no Political Liberties, and nobody farted around and staged a revolution, then It'd be a great idea. The problem with Dictatorship is when you lose your Social Liberties along with your Political ones.

[hawkelm]

At 8/12/04 11:51 AM, Angry_Hatter wrote: Of course not. Then nobody would've voted for them. Don't you think any politician would do anything to get into the white house and then stay there? I bet they're probably really jealous of saddam hussain. They all want to be the dictators of the world.

and you reckon that not a politician is creditable?

[blindey]

Here's how it is. Saddam and his ppl published a report in about 1991 after the Gulf War detailing his deconstruction of his WMD. But the thing is about 70 percent of it was taken out, censored, whatever you want to called it before it was handed over.
http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=555

[RedSkunk]

Iraq 'ended nuclear aims in 1991' -- interesting news story ^_^

[bumcheekcity]

At 8/12/04 03:15 PM, Skvnk wrote: Iraq 'ended nuclear aims in 1991' -- interesting news story ^_^

In complete fairness though, the head of Iraq's nuclear programme under Saddam Hussein WOULD say that Iraq destroyed its nuclear weapons programme in 1991 and never restarted it.

The major proof is the fact that we can't find any of the trillions of billions of weapons that we KNEW were there. We KNEW they were there because we had proof* of it's existance. We knew they were there because the UN Inspectors.... Ooh, they didn't find any, did they? I know! Saddam MUST have hidden them! They can't have never been there in the first place, could they? That would just be silly. He must have hidden them. Of course.

* Which was later found to be absolutely bullshit. Ho hum.

[RedSkunk]

Sure, but in all fairness, what do you expect the American and British media to say?

Everything with a grain of salt Bummy-boy

[BAWLS]

At 8/12/04 10:09 AM, dark_trex wrote: If so, I reccomend you just vote for Nader.

Why? I would rather Bush get elected than Nader.

[Camarohusky]

At 8/12/04 03:19 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: In complete fairness though, the head of Iraq's nuclear programme under Saddam Hussein WOULD say that Iraq destroyed its nuclear weapons programme in 1991 and never restarted it.

Cheeky Iraqis.

[LexanPhoenix]

At 8/12/04 10:09 AM, dark_trex wrote: Everyone says bush lied about there being WMD's. IS that why you're not gonna vote for him? If so, I reccomend you just vote for Nader.
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/wmd.htm

No Bush's lie was worse because his actually led to a war that killed thousands of people. Lying and lying to give a reason to go to war are two very different things. I dislike Bush for many reasons, one of which is the pointless Iraq war (also, he's tried to strip us of many constitutional rights). Nader isn't gonna win the election, and despite that Kerry wasn't my first choice for Democratic candidate, he's still LOADS better than Bush.

[theburningliberal]

No one died when the dems lied...

When the republicans got to push their twisted agenda in Iraq, however, over 900 Americans and 100 some-odd more coalition troops have been killed because of Bush's actions.

Keep in mind, I am a registered independent. So I get to criticize both parties. :-D