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At 7/29/04 11:33 AM, Twin_Uzis wrote: I don't get what the big deal is. If they love each other, let them get married, whether or not they're the same gender.

damn straight

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At 7/30/04 06:26 AM, ShadowsFall wrote:

At 7/29/04 10:19 PM, theburningliberal wrote:

To have a family? Jeez... You need to pay a bit more attention. Even in the tradition of the religious marriage, marriage is an act that expresses the feelings two people have for one another.

Yes that is true marrage is an act to show a couples true love. Yet most married couples throughout the ages have gone on to have families. Why would Gays need to marry- they can express there love without being marriage. If they dont plan to have a family whats the point. Most churches wont give them there blessing anyway and rightfully so.

there are certain benifits people can get from getting married, as well as certain taxes and so on, so no, it isnt always completely about love

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At 7/31/04 04:41 AM, pac2k4 wrote: After checking what exactly Torah is

Good job.

Leviticus 18.22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Those are not the words God gave to Moses.

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At 7/30/04 05:06 PM, PalmClease wrote:

There is not one legitament reason to be a homosexual.

even if there wasn't, and there is (brain wiring), how does them being homosexual affect you?

I don't understand why you all are trying to force us to think that it is okay when all through history it has never been okay.

bullshit, through history, gays have existed, and been accepted, in many places: eg rome, greece, others

:And it totally goes agaist our beliefs.

it does? no, it goes against YOUR ass-backward beliefs

:This country was founded and the laws were based around religion and the belief in God. You need to not forget that.

Wrong Again. The laws created for this country were simple and common sense, such as "No Hurting Others" and "No Stealing". you don't need a holy book to come up with such revelations. I dont' see any laws against the coveting of items. Or about the Sabbath day. The laws created in this country were based on REASON, not religion. Laws so commonsense have existed long before christianity was a sparkle in jesus's eye.

For the most part people don't care if you choose to be gay. It's just dumb how you flawnt it as if your proud to be a sinner. As if your rebeling against someone (ie: your father,,, or the father(GOD))

can you come up with a single argument that doesn't involve religion?

It just isn't right.

phbbt.

Don't be mad at us for telling you, that you are wrong.... and you are.

I don't get mad at morons, so sorry to dissapoint you.

At 7/30/04 07:40 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 7/30/04 07:38 PM, ShadowsFall wrote: No its a history that shaped most of the world as we know it today. But you can call it shallow if you want too. Your obviously not concerned with the people that were the main settlers of your USA. Now that seems kind of shallow to me.

Cause we all know that the founders of this country were christian...

Nominally christian, not extreme christian. Many of the founding fathers were deists. They weren't nutbars. And they sure as hell had not intent to let religion rule government policy.

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At 8/1/04 08:59 AM, Einzelgaenger wrote:

At 7/30/04 07:40 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Cause we all know that the founders of this country were christian...

Nominally christian, not extreme christian. Many of the founding fathers were deists. They weren't nutbars. And they sure as hell had not intent to let religion rule government policy.

I was being facetious. The founding fathers were part of the enlightenment period when Christianity as a religion was losing popularity at an extreme rate among the scholars and intteligents in society. And guess what, the founder fathers were a part of this group. They were deists. Therefore they did NOT believe in Christianity.

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At 7/30/04 05:40 PM, FatherVenom wrote:

At 7/30/04 05:06 PM, PalmClease wrote: There is not one legitament reason to be a homosexual.

I can name that tune in one note. Genetics.

That's bullshit, I don't believe your personal choice who you fall in love with or who you are attracted has to do with genetics. I have friends who are gay, straight, bisexual, whatever. It's how you feel. I just don't see how genetics can play into it. Now maybe if you were talking about disease, big tits, hair loss, the size of genitalia, then maybe.

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At 8/1/04 01:42 AM, FatherVenom wrote:

At 7/31/04 04:41 AM, pac2k4 wrote: After checking what exactly Torah is

Good job.

Leviticus 18.22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Those are not the words God gave to Moses.

Not that it will matter or have any effect on how I feel about the whole gay marriage situation, but in the interest of learning more about how full of BS the bible is, is there any parts that ARE words God gave to Moses in there? Because now I'm just confused. From what I have found, Leviticus seems to have been one of the books given to Moses.

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At 7/30/04 08:30 AM, N0mbre wrote:

However I am not so sure about gay couples having children. Not because of principle but because I believe it may affect the childs upbringing, i.e. teasing, discrimination, just not a 'normal' upbringing etc. In a perfect society I would see no problem with it but we don't live in a perfect society.

Well many families grow up in many different ways other than just a mother and father. You have single parent families all around the world mainly due to divorce or because the other parent is no longer alive. Many children grow up without any parents in orphan homes. Others I know have grown up with grandparents, uncles, aunts, godparents, and adoption agencies. Should these children then be ridiculed for their "different" upbringings?

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At 7/29/04 04:42 PM, bombkangaroo wrote: rouge?

why would they make the courts pink?

Rouge means red, not pink.

Rose means pink.

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I identify better with Orin Hatch. Hilary Clinton's arguments are pretty much "well, society has devalued it now, so we might as well devalue it some more. " Actually, here in Maryland there is a law that denies couples the right to divorce until after a year of separation. Not all states allow divorces quickly.

I still wish our government didn't have the power to "marry" people. I'm sure I've went over this a bajillion times, but just for ths sake of argument...

Churches/religious institutions have the power to marry a couple. The government has the power to grant a couple a civil union. A marriage in the church is recognized by the government as a civil union.

It's a little rough around the edges, because atheists won't be able to have a non-religious marriage, but who cares, they're atheists. It's not like they have feelings or morals. (just kidding)