Stop Suckling On Cows' Teets

[RedSkunk]

You sick fucks.

It's unnatural and unhealthy. You wonder why obesity is such a problem in the US? Perhaps it's because we're drinking cow milk, which was made for beasts much larger than ourselves. The nutrional requirements are completely different.

Lactose intolerance is a completely natural affair - indeed, some studies suggest that most adults are intolerant to some percentage. They don't realize that their stomach aches, etc., are coming from their immoral milk habit, however.

Every beast stops drinking milk at some point in their life. Humans are the only ones to keep drinking it throughout their lives. And we aren't even drinking human milk! Cow, goat. These beasts aren't similar at all to humans.

There is no justifiable reason to drink milk after you've matured from a small infant. You can easilly get the nutrition from other, more natural & healthy sources.

[Gunter45]

Quite true, you don't really need milk to be strong and healthy. On this topic on another thread, I said that there is a 60 - 70 year old man who can swim the distance from Alcatraz to San Fransisco bay while handcuffed. He doesn't drink milk, and is opposed to it saying that he "isn't some suckling calf." There are undeniable benefits to drinking milk, however, such as the sheer volume of calcium per serving.

You make a good point about lactose intolerance. Most people who stop drinking milk for a while develop an intolerance. It is unnatural to still drink milk as an adult, however, it is also unnatural to live in houses and change the environment to fit our needs, but that doesn't make it completely wrong. It all comes down to personal preference. I drink a little milk straight, but that's only with my cereal. I do eat cheese, I'll never stop doing that, it's so good, especially in Italian food. Milk is a great cooking ingredient.

[RedSkunk]

It's not necesarily unnatural to build houses and change our habitat - every creature has done such. We're just doing it on a grossly larger scale.

[TheShrike]

Yep.

*drinks a big ol glass o' milk*

*farts*

[RedSkunk]

I'll be seeing you in hell, Shrikey-boy.

[TheShrike]

What can I say? I love milk.

I don't drink it every day, but I certainly won't stop.

I also love soy milk. More than I'd imagined I would.

That given, I can't stand the taste of soy in coffee. Or with cookies. It works great with corn flakes, sure. But it won't replace my precious milk.

my preeeeecious milk

[bumcheekcity]

Milk = Nice.

Therefore I will continue to drink milk.

[RedSkunk]

I've heard heroin is nice too. Feel free, Bum.

[fli]

At 7/26/04 12:39 PM, uncle_skunk wrote: I've heard heroin is nice too. Feel free, Bum.

Milk vs. heroin... milk and heroin... heroin milk... milkheroin...

Oh my god, I think I've got the ULTIMATE drug... heroin that could be drunk from a carton!

Anyways... but skunk, there are several foods that aren't "natural" to humans. For me, there's nothing natural about corn...

Dependent on human cultivation and planting, it's not even perrenial... And corn (maize to non-North Americans) is suppose to be a grain... not a vegetable as we tend to eat it here in the US. Without humans, it would not exist.

Potatoes... we're not grubs or moles, so why even eat it?

Cooking with fire... we're the only animal that eats foods that have been cooked.

So why eat? Why live?

[RedSkunk]

Well, you pointed out several things we grow. But, is it not fairly natural to find a plant growing in nature, try eating it, and then harness it?

[Cathesdus]

Every once in a while I'll get on these milk drinking kicks (usually happens in the summer) but aside form that, the only time i have milk is when there is NOTHING else in the fridge (I prefer milk to water) or when I'm eating serial. I don't use milk in any other food so that's about it.

[fli]

At 7/26/04 06:29 PM, uncle_skunk wrote: Well, you pointed out several things we grow. But, is it not fairly natural to find a plant growing in nature, try eating it, and then harness it?

And the same argument could also be applied to animals... mammals do exist in nature, and humans harness and breed animals... it just so happens that humans not only eat the flesh, but consume the milk too. Although I perfectly understand this milk argument. Yeah, it's weird. Weirder is cheese... first you take the milk, add a fixative and certain bacterias, let it get chunky, and squeeze out the water with a cheese cloth... Some Japanese don't consider cheese as a food, but a dead rotting hunk of thing not suitable for eating.

And also, we do strange stuff with plants that animals can't do. Put some barely and water together, let it fermate a few months, and then drink? We're the only animals that consumes beer, wines, vodka, etc..

Personally, given the preferance, I would take the heroin over the milk...

[RedSkunk]

Yeah, you're right. Oh well.

[fli]

At 7/26/04 07:14 PM, Cathesdus wrote: Every once in a while I'll get on these milk drinking kicks (usually happens in the summer) but aside form that, the only time i have milk is when there is NOTHING else in the fridge (I prefer milk to water) or when I'm eating serial. I don't use milk in any other food so that's about it.

I drink a glass of milk and a bannana as a breakfest, but when I'm on the low carb on brief... soy milk with a side of spinach. Yummy...

The thing I miss from Mexico, in the most rural parts where they raise cattle, like where my mother comes from, you can get a glass of unpasturized milk fresh from the cow that graze naturally on land. Always had a glass for breakfest. No cereal, no break, no nothing but a glass of fresh milk. There's nothing like it... One didn't have to worry about bacteria or anything... everything was sane and clean. Never got sick. Ever...

And funny as it sounds, I always lost weight when I drank that milk. I think that is because fresh milk not only curbs hunger, but is very satisfying due to the high fat content, and didn't leave me craving for a sugar fix.

[bombkangaroo]

the strange thing is that human milk drinkers are stigmatised, while people who drink animal milk are considered normal.

[Camarohusky]

What do you want usd to do? Market women milk? I don't think that would go over well with the female community. I know cow milk is fucked up and bad for us, but I doubt it has anything to do with Americans beign fat. Just to let you know, I don't like milk either (bad experiences), though I love other dairy products. CHEEEEEEEEESE!

Americans are fat because we're lazy and we're gullible. We jump on very unhealthy and dangerous diets liek Atkins cause we don't want to go for a fuckin walk everyday. Changing your diet drastically only messes up your system and makes you prone to gaining weight quicker.

[Gunter45]

His argument is not to drink milk at all. Then again, pork is not too good for us either. The pig muscle structure is very similar to humans. That's why older people have a harder time digesting it. Besides, like Samuel Jackson said, "pigs are filthy animals." I do enjoy my ham and sausage, though, I'll continue to eat it, just so long as it's cooked thoroughly (trichonosis is sick).

[fli]

At 7/26/04 08:10 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
Americans are fat because we're lazy and we're gullible. We jump on very unhealthy and dangerous diets liek Atkins cause we don't want to go for a fuckin walk everyday. Changing your diet drastically only messes up your system and makes you prone to gaining weight quicker.

Of course... a pet peeve of mine... people won't touch milk, avocados or salmon because they're fatty foods, but have no problem drinking a soda or a candy bar... A soda is only sugar which converts to fat, while milk and avocados are nutritious and has good cholestrol to fight the bad cholestrol.

French food is fatty too, but unlike us, they don't gorge all day on it...

[FUNKbrs]

I have to agree. Drinking cow milk is pretty unnatural. Now eating cheese, that's a totally different story...

Frankly, I quit drinking milk when I got old enough for b33r.

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 7/26/04 11:36 AM, uncle_skunk wrote: You sick fucks.

It's unnatural and unhealthy...

I've been reading the articles/information on Rense.com and Notmilk.com (anything information I mention comes from these two sources), and I agree with you 100%. I haven't been able to tolerate dairy products for 3 or 4 years now. (Since I was 14 or 15, I guess.)

I ate a grilled cheese sandwhich a few months ago, and I was sick for almost a week. Hell, I had some pizza on Saturday (which went against my better judgement, since I read the articles last week), and I'm still feeling sick.

Cheese and milk (something I only consumed with cereal) hurt me like nothing else I've encountered.

I've been spreading this anti-dairy propaganda around my house, but no one cares or believes it.

Cows milk contains the same growth hormones that appear in humans. (Known as Insulin like Growth Factor [IGF-I]) Which means you're getting a dose of growth hormones when you either no longer need them, or when you're getting enough from yourself. And, apparently, IGF-I also stimulates cancer growth.

At 7/26/04 07:28 PM, spanishfli wrote: The thing I miss from Mexico, in the most rural parts where they raise cattle, like where my mother comes from, you can get a glass of unpasturized milk fresh from the cow that graze naturally on land. Always had a glass for breakfest.

It doesn't matter what natural substance the cows feed on. It will be riddled with things you don't need. Even if it was pasteurized, bacteria still survives; this must mean your unpasteurized glass of milk was swarming with bacteria. (Which can be good. Nothing wrong with a healthy immune system...)

At 7/26/04 08:10 PM, Camarohusky wrote: What do you want usd to do? Market women milk?

How about dog milk? Cat? Rat? Why is a cow's milk acceptable?

Americans are fat because we're lazy and we're gullible.

Being lazy and gullible doesn't help, but the dairy industry doesn't make things any better.

At 7/26/04 09:48 PM, -theFUNK- wrote: I have to agree. Drinking cow milk is pretty unnatural. Now eating cheese, that's a totally different story...

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but not only is it the same story, it's the same sentence.

[Wasson]

Mmm, milk = awesome

[FUNKbrs]

LIBERATE THE CHEESE!!!!!!

Sorry, I R t3h DRONKN. Besides, its funny.

[Montgomery-Scott]

STRAWBERRY MILK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j00

Why did you make this topic? No offence, but it just invites relentless spaming. And it really isn't politics. Per se.

[fli]

It doesn't matter what natural substance the cows feed on. It will be riddled with things you don't need. Even if it was pasteurized, bacteria still survives; this must mean your unpasteurized glass of milk was swarming with bacteria. (Which can be good. Nothing wrong with a healthy immune system...)

How are you sure that it's "swarming with bacteria." Why would it be swarming with all sort of nasty things? I can only imagine it being full of bacteria is if the vessal that carried the milk had been dirty and unsterialized...

Human urine, despite all the taboos on how it's filthy, is sterile. Just because it's piss doesn't mean it's dirty... although I would not touch other people's piss for anything.

Milk is pasturized because it spoils less quickly, which makes it easier to sell in markets, and it is used to remove all the cream, the "nata" what it is called in Spanish, from the milk to be used in other dairy products such as Ice Cream.

Many many people, especially poor people in that town, drink milk that way and they are living-- a few of them quite well, since they don't get sick... on the contrary, they seem to be practically immune to colds and flues.

[GooieGreen]

At 7/26/04 12:09 PM, TheShrike wrote: What can I say? I love milk.

As do I. Wanna go down to the malt shop later?

Remember, Skunky-poo, just because you're right, doesn't mean anyone cares. People need milk for a lot of products and a lot of people think soy is "gay" (no offense, spanishfli; I'm not saying it). However, I wouldn't be surprised if conservatives will push for a "Milk My Wife" campaigne. I think it would work, too.

Have you ever seen MTV Cribs with football players? They have breast milk... I think it's creepy...

After you are old enough for sold foods, milk shouldn't be an issue (other than for your Cocoa Puffs *cough crack for kids cough* and your coffee (you evil coffee bastards!)

[Camarohusky]

At 7/26/04 11:10 PM, Gooie wrote:

After you are old enough for sold foods, milk shouldn't be an issue (other than for your Cocoa Puffs *cough crack for kids cough* and your coffee (you evil coffee bastards!)

Umm, I thought Pixie Sticks were crack for kids...

[witeshark]

Uncle Skunk, Shrike is a girl. I drink milk a lot! it's really just a few stages before cheese anyway. I don't gain any weight at all

[GooieGreen]

At 7/26/04 11:13 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Umm, I thought Pixie Sticks were crack for kids...

Have you seen the picture of its mascot lately? On the front of the current box he is shaking like mad, and on the back, he's in a swirling vortex of extesy. He's soo cracked out.

[FatherVenom]

Gotta love the milk. Still skunk has a point, although the scientific reason behind the whole reason is that after you reach the later stages of infancy your body stops producing many of the enzymes required to break down lactose. Some human strains have evolved to continue producing those enzymes, but whether or not this is a good thing has yet to be seen.

[fli]

At 7/26/04 11:10 PM, Gooie wrote:
Remember, Skunky-poo, just because you're right, doesn't mean anyone cares. People need milk for a lot of products and a lot of people think soy is "gay" (no offense, spanishfli; I'm not saying it). :

Don't worry... I think soy "milk" is ghey too... but it's better then not having any milk in the morning... for me at least.