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That's it? He's not Bush. That's like saying I prefer Stalin because he is not Hitler. All we are doing is trading one evil for another. The American people will decide in Nov who it will be, not the world. What do you have to say about his (Kerry's) lying?

Thanks for the e-mail Spookshow. That helps a lot. I'm sorry I didn't e-mail you before like I said I would. I'm going to try to e-mail you before I leave.

HOOAH!

Also I forgot to write, anything that comes on the range is fair game unless they call a halt. So if like when I was at basic, a deer wanders onto the range and you have a M-249, well looks like Venison :P Let me know if I can help in anyway or you need info. Also adjust any straps or buttons before a march. You'll thank me later. Double check everything also.

Thanks man, I can't thank you enough. I'll ask ya some questions over the e-mail I'll write ya.

Here's something else that just hit my mind that our media doesn't cover. Of course, that must mean it would place America in a good light (oh no) if the media doesn't cover it.

Here's a picture (unfortunately I had to shrink it) of a rally in support of the United States that 100 something people held. It is near a military camp in Carmen town in southern Philippines. Even though the Philippines withdrew their forces from Iraq (I'm not sure about their civil workers though), we still are helping them fight against terrorism. It's a good possiblity it could be a part of the fed's plan to help crush terrorism.

For those of you that don't know, for a long time there are Muslims that wish to break off from the Philippines and form their own country, and have shown thier dedication to this goal in blood. I'm glad we are helping them, and I have no idea how long we have either. I do know this is not new.

At 7/26/04 06:27 AM, Spookshow wrote: I thought foriegners sp* liked Kerry. Didn't he say something about that...? Kerry plays um... golf? :P No matter who wins. This country looses.

More than Bush. Bit it's like saying "I like treading in dog shit MORE than i like being stabbed in the leg." It doesn't matter anyway.

Like I said earlier, no matter who wins the election, WE loose.

At 7/26/04 06:35 AM, Spookshow wrote: That's it? He's not Bush. That's like saying I prefer Stalin because he is not Hitler. All we are doing is trading one evil for another. The American people will decide in Nov who it will be, not the world. What do you have to say about his (Kerry's) lying?

Bush and Kerry are both liars... and about a lot more serious issues than gun control.

What you have to do is look at the amount of control each person had, and how much their lies impacted scoiety negatively.

POWER MORE <-----------------------------------------------------> LESS

RESPONSIBILITY <----------------------------------------------------->

IMPACT OF LIE <------------------------------------------------------>

BUSH KERRY

Winner : Bush - his lies cost the most lives...

At 7/26/04 08:25 AM, Spookshow wrote: Like I said earlier, no matter who wins the election, WE loose.

Dude - that reminds me of ALIEN vs Predator --- OFF to do a Photoshop Poster right away!!!

Thanks for the inspiration!!!

At 7/26/04 09:28 AM, antiklaus wrote:

At 7/26/04 08:25 AM, Spookshow wrote: Like I said earlier, no matter who wins the election, WE loose.

Dude - that reminds me of ALIEN vs Predator --- OFF to do a Photoshop Poster right away!!!

Thanks for the inspiration!!!

It's a quicky, but its still pretty funny.

Well, since guns have the most pull in my decision, Kerry looses. Bush's lies? Are we going back to the whole WMD thing? Already covered that...

At 7/26/04 10:05 AM, Spookshow wrote: Well, since guns have the most pull in my decision, Kerry looses. Bush's lies? Are we going back to the whole WMD thing? Already covered that...

I don't even have to touch on WMD to show Bush lies and Flip flops.

Try 9/11 and Saddam for example...

I don't even have to touch on WMD to show Bush lies and Flip flops.

Try 9/11 and Saddam for example...

Gah, he's even infected me... OSAMA --- OSAMA...

Goddamned Bush and his revisionist history...

As did Clinton, Chirac, Albright, Edwards, Clark, etc, etc, etc. It started before Bush.

heh, as i went to bed at 4 this morning, i was wondering when we were going to get ourselves some devil's advocates, so to speak, i thank you for joining us, no matter your opinions...

I think everyone's welcome to post where they want but when you reach a certain point, where people have agreed to disagree you are pushing it. Anti-Klaus is more than welcome here. :) Also I notice a severe lack of left-wingers posting...

I need to correct myself on the Phillipines. We have been training them to fight against the rebellion for a very long time (our military training is highly respected, as the Bolivians can tell you for example) and we didn't actually have a large number of troops there recently. I learned that the rally in support of us was the reaction of us getting pissed at them giving the terrorists leniancy. The Phillipines is a confusing mixture of anti-American and pro-American politics.

Sorry about that.

At 7/26/04 10:14 AM, antiklaus wrote: Try 9/11 and Saddam for example...

yeah, that about does it. That and he divided the nation when he said he would unite it.

At 7/27/04 04:01 PM, Metal69hed wrote: The Phillipines is a confusing mixture of anti-American and pro-American politics.

How is that any different than the US. BTW, I'm not suprised at all they withdrew; any country with Spanish blood turns and flees like a sissy when the threat of terror is imminent.

At 7/27/04 04:45 PM, Alejandro1 wrote: How is that any different than the US. BTW, I'm not suprised at all they withdrew; any country with Spanish blood turns and flees like a sissy when the threat of terror is imminent.

Wow, that was soo not flamingly racist

At 7/27/04 04:48 PM, Gooie wrote: Wow, that was soo not flamingly racist

I'm sorry, but when we were attacked on 9/11, we didn't cower back in fear, recall Bush, and and vote socalist.

"How is that any different than the US"

It's different in the sense of politics. We have had a long history with the nation, some ugly chapters, some good chapters. But at one period last century (forgot at what time) one of the president's main platform was getting rid of the American bases within their country (we were there since we freed them from Spanish rule but it wasn't an occupation, we have bases all over the world). Many of said that we were going to leave anyways, but beside the point when the guy was elected we left the Phillipines.

Yet at the same time we didn't stop training their men to fight against the rebels, and we remained allies for a very long time, just not on a good note because of a lot of the Phillipino people. The current women that is in office strongly supports the Americans, but it is a strange response of what the people think of America.

It is like this all over the world. Medias and the Democrats will tell you that we are hated everywhere, although enlisted men/women and people that love to travel will tell you otherwise that it is actually a mixture. We are a superpower and therefore we shall be hated and loved at the same time, it is a fact of history that never stops repeating.

But with the Phillipines it is a very strange mix that stands out I believe. Our history with them, deeper than what I have mentioned broadly here, will tell you that. If anyone believes I made a mistake somewhere in what I have said, tell me.

By the way I just finished another smoke session today (a weak one, but a lot of running and I'm bad at that) and I am worn the fuck out. HOOAH!

As a side note, I agree with Alejandro1. This is NOT a time to fuck around like that and never EVER shall we give into any of the terrorists tactics. Although as I stated above of our odd relationship with the Phillipines, they are our allies and they should not (even IF they were going to leave in a month) have pulled out in order to save the hostage. Now they have put a bull's eye on one of their ass cheeks, just like Spain did, that is pleading for the fanaticals to come into their country or for their rebels to push harder upon them.

This is WAR. It is morbid. It is violent. It is messy. This isn't just Iraq that we are uniting for, it is against the rising numbers of fanatical Islam and a growing threat of terrorism. Australia, South Korea, Britian and America are all good models of how to behave in the face of such hatred.

I would have never thunk that the Phillipines would do such a thing such as acting as a sissy, placing their tail between their legs, and curling into a ball like Spain did as well. Their actions were not well liked by America or any other member of the coalition.

At 7/26/04 04:45 AM, Satanica2030 wrote: back from iraq with 3 purple hearts and was asked by a news crew to show them, Kerry would call him a show-off... sorry, just my thoughts on that

I agree totally

Yeah, I don't want this jackass Kerry to screw my right to own firearms. I'am not giving up my AK and shotguns goddamnit.

Any rebuttals from the "left"?

At 7/26/04 03:47 AM, Spookshow wrote:

Last but not least: THANK YOU (AND ALL SERVICEMEN and WOMEN, PAST and PRESENT) FOR SERVING YOUR COUNTRY.

Good man.

I always thank em when i see em.

Support your neighboor. Support YOUR Troops.

At 7/26/04 03:01 AM, Spookshow wrote: I would like to here what everyone has to say on Kerry's supposed PRO-second amendment views. He supports HR 2038 yet the manbeside him has a semi-auto shotgun in several pics. If you support a law (right or left) you should support it by example.

Well, same thing could be said about the current president. He doesn't support stem cell research, but he supports in-vitro fertilization for sterile couples. Several embryos are created and then destroyed.

I'm sticking with the lesser of the two evils...

Guns for me all almighty. The can pretty much be a last resort to everything else. Also it just doesn't ban new ones. It bans fixing old ones.

Kerry flip-flops all the time. He wants to get elected so badly that, he'll change his mind on anything.