Christians Are Terrorists - Say Fbi

[1Shot-Paddy]

Look up on google or go to the Fbi's website and look at the Project Megiddo report. In it, it says all Christians are terrorists and all Jews and Muslims who believe in the End Days. It's called Megiddo after the hill outside Jerusalem where the Armageddon will take place.
So practically any Christian,Jew and Muslim who believes in the Holy Books is a terrorist and can be jailed without Trial.

So I advise any of you that fall into this category drive to Canada or Mexico.

[afterdeath]

do aethists count? what about devil worshippers? what about christian-canadians? can they be tried in america for whicherey? I need answers dammit!

[n0ir]

At 7/25/04 07:27 PM, 1Shot-Paddy wrote:

So much for freedom of religion.. *walks off and pushes Moses out of the way*

[ChaosFoot]

i believe every religious person is a terrorist, as is anyone who puts any stock into the bible, ITS ALL MADE UP, so is god

[BAWLS]

Religion gives people something to believe in and morals to live up to. But then again, without religion, republicans are powerless...mwahahaHAHAH!!!2!

[antiklaus]

I have a copy of the report, as well as a flyer that was sent to the police in regards to 'suspected terrorists'

Not only does it list Christians, but get this, people who 'know a lot about the Constitution, or their rights'

[Montgomery-Scott]

the bible was made up by a bunch of political and religious hustlers in order to controll people. Just look at televangilists.

[witeshark]

At 7/25/04 09:48 PM, antiklaus wrote:

get this, people who 'know a lot about the Constitution, or their rights'

That part you can be sure is based on the idea of preparing for people that study the Constitution and their rights specifically to find ways they can do shit as close to legally as possible

[Jlop985]

Project Megiddo is an expired program designed to combat Y2K-related terrorism by apocalyptic cults. It's not even on the FBI website anymore.

[antiklaus]

At 7/25/04 10:09 PM, Jlop985 wrote: Project Megiddo is an expired program designed to combat Y2K-related terrorism by apocalyptic cults. It's not even on the FBI website anymore.

Then look under http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/nsiguidelines.pdf

These are the new guildelines which we use to determine who is a terrorist and who is not. Page 12 specifically.

Look how much they are willing to share with the public.

After seeing this, Meggido seems trivial yes. But what has replaced it seems fairly frightening.

[ReiperX]

At 7/25/04 10:32 PM, antiklaus wrote: Then look under http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/nsiguidelines.pdf

So if it is suppose to be unclassified October 31 2028 why do we have it now?

Just something I am wondering, trying to see if the document you have is real or not.

[antiklaus]

At 7/25/04 10:55 PM, ReiperX wrote:

At 7/25/04 10:32 PM, antiklaus wrote: Then look under http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/nsiguidelines.pdf

So if it is suppose to be unclassified October 31 2028 why do we have it now?

Just something I am wondering, trying to see if the document you have is real or not.

It is real. And if you looked closely at the source, as well as examining the document, you will see the point I was trying to make.

[Devaint-Lucifer]

they charge you with being a terrorist if you do not just sit down and take it in the butt like a good little boy.

[ReiperX]

At 7/26/04 12:07 AM, antiklaus wrote:

It is real. And if you looked closely at the source, as well as examining the document, you will see the point I was trying to make.

Can you specify parts of it that you are trying to show the point you are trying to make? Besides just page 12 which isn't all that uncommon for documents that have become unclassified.

[Memorize]

At 7/25/04 09:13 PM, ChaosFoot wrote: i believe every religious person is a terrorist, as is anyone who puts any stock into the bible, ITS ALL MADE UP, so is god

well no one has disproved that god exists, think of the bible as a history book yet no one believes it just because they dont want to believe in god. its like our history books on how we became a country and believing every word it says even tho we never saw what happen. i think its stupid, we believe everything our history book says but we dont believe in the bible just because we were never there and never saw what happend.

[ReiperX]

At 7/26/04 01:15 AM, southwest_strangla17 wrote:

At 7/25/04 09:13 PM, ChaosFoot wrote: i believe every religious person is a terrorist, as is anyone who puts any stock into the bible, ITS ALL MADE UP, so is god

well no one has disproved that god exists, think of the bible as a history book yet no one believes it just because they dont want to believe in god. its like our history books on how we became a country and believing every word it says even tho we never saw what happen. i think its stupid, we believe everything our history book says but we dont believe in the bible just because we were never there and never saw what happend.

There is a difference between our current history books and the bible. While there is some evidence to support some things that occured in the bible, there is a lot of it that is well, seemingly far fetched. Creation of the universe in 6 days, creation of man from dust, the existance of an all powerful omnipotent being ect. Which is a reason that a lot of people find it hard to believe the bible.

Now with the history books, generally speaking you have more evidence to support what the history books say. I think in the end thats what it all boils down to, evidence.

You got people that say that god exists with little evidence, and you got people that don't beleive in god due to little evidence. It depends on whether or not you are wiling to put your faith in ia book or not is what it all boilds down to in my personal opinion.

[Memorize]

There is a difference between our current history books and the bible. While there is some evidence to support some things that occured in the bible, there is a lot of it that is well, seemingly far fetched. Creation of the universe in 6 days, creation of man from dust, the existance of an all powerful omnipotent being ect. Which is a reason that a lot of people find it hard to believe the bible.

Now with the history books, generally speaking you have more evidence to support what the history books say. I think in the end thats what it all boils down to, evidence.

You got people that say that god exists with little evidence, and you got people that don't beleive in god due to little evidence. It depends on whether or not you are wiling to put your faith in ia book or not is what it all boilds down to in my personal opinion.

you have really good reasoning, however altho it is true that some part seem far fetched it is still also true that we havent been there to see it. so i say hey better safe than sorry.

[Spookshow]

Has anyone ever considered the fact that we don't know everything? Look at how many times something has been "FACT NO DISPUTING IT!!! then turns out wrong years later? Look at how for what? 100 years? we thought the atom was the smallest thing, Pluto was the last planet. X species was extinct etc.

[1Shot-Paddy]

Look forget about wheither Religion is true or false. It's the fact that most Americans are either Christian, Muslim or Jew and George Bush is a born again Christian!
It's the hypocrisy that concerns me, that truly shows that the people in charge just want to rule everyones lives and terrorism is just an excuse to take away your liberties.

I live in Northern Ireland and have the freedom to do whatever I want, and I mean that. Yet we have had 4, thats right 4 terrorist organisations running crazy about the country blowing stuff up.
Yet no Patriot Act was passed which took away our Human Rights.

The American people are being mugs if they allow this to continue, I'm just trying to help you out with this info.

[XcakerX]

never heard of it,

http://www.fbi.gov if you want to look yourself.

99% of christians are reasonable people, its the 1% or the Jerry Falwell types you need to watch for. They again, have problems with everyday christians, when they are not trying to scare them into a frenzy.

[bumcheekcity]

At 7/26/04 02:59 AM, Spookshow wrote: Has anyone ever considered the fact that we don't know everything? Look at how many times something has been "FACT NO DISPUTING IT!!! then turns out wrong years later? Look at how for what? 100 years? we thought the atom was the smallest thing, Pluto was the last planet. X species was extinct etc.

DOnt mince your words. Remember, we thought the Earth was flat for a few thousand years.

[XcakerX]

I just searched google, this was in refrence to make sure no one was going to do anything crazy on new years eve 2000, over people sick of waiting for armegheddon and gonna start it themselves.

its now 2004, Project Megiddo, is fucking over, get over it.

[antiklaus]

At 7/26/04 12:48 PM, XcakerX wrote: I just searched google, this was in refrence to make sure no one was going to do anything crazy on new years eve 2000, over people sick of waiting for armegheddon and gonna start it themselves.

its now 2004, Project Megiddo, is fucking over, get over it.

And Megiddo has been replaced by something far worse.

But then again, what difference does that make, you are arguing semantics.

I posted reference to the replacement, but it seems clear few people read the posts.

Whateveh...

[The-Enforcer]

At 7/25/04 07:27 PM, 1Shot-Paddy wrote:
So I advise any of you that fall into this category drive to Canada or Mexico.

No one is getting jailed without a trial. Unless they are, in fact, terrorists. If you have dynamite strapped to your chest then the FBI will take you in, if you're out buying christmas presents they won't.

Why are you telling blatant lies?

Jackass

[1Shot-Paddy]

At 7/26/04 10:58 AM, 1Shot-Paddy wrote: The American people are being mugs if they allow this to continue, I'm just trying to help you out with this info.

Well there it is, I'm just trying to help you yet all you did was attack me with foul language, fine then. If you don't want help you won't recieve it.
Just like what Jesus said, I'll leave the town and shake the dust of my shoes with you people.
Hope you all change your minds when the time comes.

[The-Enforcer]

Don't compare yourself to Jesus. Jesus didn't lie to get attention.

[jonthomson]

If the authorities just had a little bit of common sense and banned religion, we wouldn't even need to be discussing this. There's no need or place for religion in the modern world.

[antiklaus]

At 7/26/04 01:14 PM, The_Enforcer wrote:

At 7/25/04 07:27 PM, 1Shot-Paddy wrote:
So I advise any of you that fall into this category drive to Canada or Mexico.

No one is getting jailed without a trial. Unless they are, in fact, terrorists. If you have dynamite strapped to your chest then the FBI will take you in, if you're out buying christmas presents they won't.

don't be so sure.

Two members of the Republic of Texas were arrested in July 1998 after being charged Federally with threatening to use a Weapon of Mass Destruction. The Republic of Texas members had plotted to construct a device that would deploy lethal biological substances. The devices would be used to infect selected government officials. After obtaining sufficient probable cause, an interagency law enforcement team arrested both men without incident. Both men were found guilty in Federal court in late 1998.

FYI, the evidence that was brought against them:

3 - 4 foot tubes of 1/2 inch PVC
1 - 100 ft. spool of 12 awg electrical speaker wire
3 - 1lb containers of plumber's putty
a 48 piece toolkit which included the ever-incriminating wire cutters
1 - 5 gallon can of unleaded gasoline with oil added to it (presumeably for use in a weed cutter)

what is more telling is what they didn't have:

no blasting caps, no explosives, no plans for explosives...

and this arrest was pre 911.

Why are you telling blatant lies?

no need to, the truth is much more incriminating.

Jackass

you are going by Jackass now? uhm ok.

[The-Enforcer]

At 7/26/04 03:46 PM, antiklaus wrote: Two members of the Republic of Texas were arrested in July 1998 after being charged Federally with threatening to use a Weapon of Mass Destruction.

Why do you jump to the defense of every crazy theory? If someone told someone "I'm going to use a WMD on you" You would complain that the FBI arrested them? I'm trying to understand your frame of mind. You seem to jump to the defense of criminals/terrorists.

Why are you telling blatant lies?

no need to, the truth is much more incriminating.

The truth is incriminating? So you agree that the FBI has the right to arrest someone because they are christian? That is simply NOT TRUE. I know you like to believe every anti-bush/anti-gov't thing you hear but there is this little thing called common sense that I like to apply to my logic. You obviously ran out.

Jackass

you are going by Jackass now? uhm ok.

Well if by "Jackass" you mean someone who applies common sense and logic to crackpot conspiracy theories about how the government will arrest you for ludacris reasons, then yeah sure.

antiklaus, just out of curiosity: Do you believe in anything that doesn't involve some conspiracy or cover up? Are you in agreement with ANYTHING the government has said or has done?

[Spookshow]

Woah Tex, calm down. Ease up on the language. If you are talking about the thread name, read it closer. If you are talking about someone else, get over it. I've been called a terrorist because I like guns. So what I own a couple... OH NO!!! (I laughed afterward) :P Just relax and have fun.