Important Question!!!

[Perfekt-Veelo]

Here's a good question for everyone willing to answer! Ready... okay!
Being the intelegent person you are, answer me this; would you ever HONESTLY go through the policial hell that is our government, knowing that everything you are will be under constant servailince and that you could very well be ruined by just one slip up, just to try and make a differnce in a system that is on a bullet train to hell? Would you really run for president or congress or anything at all unless you were a slimy little weasle who knows that he can, not only slip his way out of any situation unscathed, but also make a few quick bucks on the way? And thusly, my ultimate question... will there ever be a political figure who isn't a complete scumbag?

[Perfekt-Veelo]

If no one's going to respond, someone delete this thing... please!

[Spookshow]

Sometimes even the smallest measure can slow or change the world. For the lack of a nail, a shoe was lost, for the lack of a shoe, a horse fell, for the lack of a horse a rider was killed, for the lack of a rider, the flank was lost, for the loss of the flank, the battle was lost.

[TurkM938]

Clearly by your second response, you do not have much faith in this question. Sure, politics requires a great deal of upkeep to one's personal character and how they conduct themselves. But at the same time, it ensures that the men who enter office will most likely be of a higher moral and ethical fabric than most others. As far as entering government? The power is what allures, how many other jobs allow you to change the course of national history? For many that is reason enough.

[TurkM938]

At 7/24/04 03:49 AM, Spookshow wrote: Sometimes even the smallest measure can slow or change the world. For the lack of a nail, a shoe was lost, for the lack of a shoe, a horse fell, for the lack of a horse a rider was killed, for the lack of a rider, the flank was lost, for the loss of the flank, the battle was lost.

Jolley good quote.

[Perfekt-Veelo]

At 7/24/04 03:51 AM, TurkM1938 wrote: Clearly by your second response, you do not have much faith in this question. Sure, politics requires a great deal of upkeep to one's personal character and how they conduct themselves. But at the same time, it ensures that the men who enter office will most likely be of a higher moral and ethical fabric than most others. As far as entering government? The power is what allures, how many other jobs allow you to change the course of national history? For many that is reason enough.

I'm glad I'm getting responces, and I do have faith in the question. I just don't want anybody to waste there time on something misleading... it wasn't really an Important question... it was kind of blatant and stupid, but I digress...
People in office aren't usually of a higher moral standard and their ethics are often lies. They are often just in it for a quick buck; after all, it's extremely easy to get things from the passengers when you are the driver. Just threaten to drive them into a wall, and they will throw you their wallets...
It sucks!

[Spookshow]

Politics can best be prepared to ballet. You must carefully weave and move if you don't want to mess up or fall. It is like walking a balance beam for some and bashing someone in the head for others. I believe a "centrist" idea's are good you should look at both sides of a topic before sided with one, I prefer to try and idea then try to disprove my own idea. Sounds crazy but it gives my theories betterstanding as they are proven and disprovenm then I weed out the ones that fail.

[witeshark]

Maybe it's better to be a high up part of it. Make the best of it and don't give up trying to make a difference if you think it needs to be done

[ImmoralLibertarian]

My old sig was ‘anyone capable of being elected president should in no way be aloud they job’

Then again, I always hope that a good person will start out in politics in the lower levels and somehow make it to the top.

[BAWLS]

There's plenty of decent politicians out there, you just don't hear about them as much as the bad ones.

[Metal69hed]

True NotYouZ. Because good news doesn't sell.

[fahrenheit]

no

unless they offered me lots of money

[RedSkunk]

So.. basically... "Would I ever run for office?"

... Sure. I don't have any scruples.

[AbstractVagabond]

At 7/24/04 03:56 AM, Veelo_Vega wrote:

:it wasn't really an Important question... it was kind of blatant and stupid, but I digress...

I doesn't have to be a real improtant question and I see yours as trivial. In this case, that's a good thing as it showed you at least tried to put something different into the politics discussion. Not a bad question, either.

I thought about how I would handle being in politics and I see two worlds. One world in how I'd love to deal with things and the other world in how things would likely end up. It's the second world that keeps me home.

Yes, it's vague, but the truth is that the answer I'd give would likely be anything but reality if it actually happened. I seriously don't think I could handle it. I already look like an idiot here.

[brink23]

I would be caught raping a donkey before running for any position in the government. Fuck that, all you do is sit around in a room blab and bitch about stupid fucking issues in our every day life, I mean some of them can be important to know about, but I mean, making a living off of bitching? Gay.

[Montgomery-Scott]

There already was a politician who wasn't a complete scumbag. His name was Paul Welstone. But he's dead now. His helicopter crashed. I continue to believe that he was assasinated. Call me a crazy man, but the GOP isn't above that. Anybody ever see the movie JFK?

[Metal69hed]

"I would be caught raping a donkey before running for any position in the government. Fuck that, all you do is sit around in a room blab and bitch about stupid fucking issues in our every day life, I mean some of them can be important to know about, but I mean, making a living off of bitching? Gay."

phreekie lost his clue, he's been looking everywhere for it. He came into the political forum but got really lost. Can you help phreekie find a clue?

[Montgomery-Scott]

At 7/25/04 07:11 PM, phreekie wrote: I would be caught raping a donkey before running for any position in the government. Fuck that, all you do is sit around in a room blab and bitch about stupid fucking issues in our every day life, I mean some of them can be important to know about, but I mean, making a living off of bitching? Gay.

If that's what you think, then you should GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE POLITICS FORUM!!!!!

[exide-edge]

Voting for president is simpy a matter of choosing between the lesser of two evils.

[Camarohusky]

At 7/25/04 09:43 PM, exide_edge wrote: Voting for president is simpy a matter of choosing between the lesser of two evils.

Well, it shouldn't have to be. If only we could get a good honest intelligent respectable man in there. Kinda like was until he acctually got into office and dealt a crippling blow to public education that it has yet to recover from.

[exide-edge]

At 7/25/04 10:35 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Well, it shouldn't have to be. If only we could get a good honest intelligent respectable man in there. Kinda like was until he acctually got into office and dealt a crippling blow to public education that it has yet to recover from.

Well the federal government has no business dictating policies in our local schools in the first place.

[Theragingpimple]

Sure, I would run for prez....then I can get the privalege of having 2 secret murders, and then I would use one of them and K-I-L-L George W. Bush!

Also, why do we pay higher tax rates? BECAUSE Bush keeps borrowing money from the U.K. and all of them and look at us now. America is $6,000,000,000,000 in debt (I believe thats enough zero's for trillion) That is exactly why houses cost more and taxes are at an all-time high!

Fight the enemy: George W. Bush

[exide-edge]

At 7/25/04 10:54 PM, Theragingpimple wrote: Also, why do we pay higher tax rates? BECAUSE Bush keeps borrowing money from the U.K. and all of them and look at us now. America is $6,000,000,000,000 in debt (I believe thats enough zero's for trillion) That is exactly why houses cost more and taxes are at an all-time high!

LOL...Is that right? Higher tax rates compared to whom may i ask? Why don't you set us all staight show us where you got that info from lame ass.

[Metal69hed]

"Sure, I would run for prez....then I can get the privalege of having 2 secret murders, and then I would use one of them and K-I-L-L George W. Bush!

Also, why do we pay higher tax rates? BECAUSE Bush keeps borrowing money from the U.K. and all of them and look at us now. America is $6,000,000,000,000 in debt (I believe thats enough zero's for trillion) That is exactly why houses cost more and taxes are at an all-time high!

Fight the enemy: George W. Bush"

We've been in a deficit much longer than this president has held the office. And we don't borrow money from other nations.

[Spookshow]

Alot of the whole BB thing came from raping our military.

[bumcheekcity]

At 7/25/04 11:16 PM, Metal69hed wrote: We've been in a deficit much longer than this president has held the office. And we don't borrow money from other nations.

I believe Clinton Left you with a few Trillion Surplus, didn't he? Or am I getting my facts werong...

[Gunter45]

Definately getting them wrong, he had a plan to balance the budget that never went through. We had a surplus, but that doesn't have to do with the national deficit, it's more of an annual thing. We've had the national debt for a LONG time.

[Thanatos-DTH1]

At 7/26/04 11:10 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: I believe Clinton Left you with a few Trillion Surplus, didn't he? Or am I getting my facts werong...

Only about $230B, but that was one year. If it continued at projected rates, the national debt would have been gone by about 2012 or so.

[bumcheekcity]

At 7/26/04 11:19 AM, Thanatos_DTH1 wrote: Only about $230B, but that was one year. If it continued at projected rates, the national debt would have been gone by about 2012 or so.

President Bush inherited the strongest fiscal outlook in memory, with a record budget surplus of $236 billion in 2000 and a projected surplus of $5.6 trillion over ten years. Those surpluses quickly disappeared.

Ah. Much less than I thought. That was from Senate.gov, by the way. Netherthelss... Bush turned it into a $=6trillion... And you're told the 'Economy isn't doing too well'... I wonder why...

[Gunter45]

I've said this before, the national debt has little to do with the economy. And of course we're going further into debt, there's a war to fight, how do you propose we pay for it, by increasing taxes? The amount taxes would need to be raised would be enough so that nobody would pay them anymore, thus cancelling that out. The GDP, the best economic indicator we have, measures the amount of money changing hands, not the amount of money in the government's coffers, we could have the best economy in the world by several orders of magnitude and still have a multi-trillion dollar deficit.