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At 10/12/08 02:24 AM, phileeguy wrote: Crazy game this baseball, huh? After the Phils odd performance on Friday, the Sox and Rays have one of their own. Beckett and Kazmir both get shelled, with homeruns galore. The Rays bullpen - who are usually good - let the Sox back in it, and it goes to extra to end on a... walk-off sacrifice fly? Yep. crazy game.

Terry Francona has lost his mind. Why taking Papelbon out after 18 pitches when he had no trouble or what so ever? We do not have a game tonight, so Pap can rest his arm. With that being said, he could have gone at least one more inning. In addition, why plugging Timlin in? He is old and he cannot pitch. I would throw Paul Byrd in if I was the manager. Throwing Timlin in an extra inning with the scores tied is suicidal. We are in deep trouble as Terry has suddenly forgotten how to make right decisions.

At 10/12/08 02:43 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Terry Francona has lost his mind. Why taking Papelbon out after 18 pitches when he had no trouble or what so ever?

The series isn't made by one game. Obviously, you're going to protect your better players. He obviously thought that Timlin could get the job done.

We do not have a game tonight, so Pap can rest his arm. With that being said, he could have gone at least one more inning. In addition, why plugging Timlin in? He is old and he cannot pitch. I would throw Paul Byrd in if I was the manager. Throwing Timlin in an extra inning with the scores tied is suicidal. We are in deep trouble as Terry has suddenly forgotten how to make right decisions.

Only your second loss of October and already you're waving the white flag? Let's put things in perspective for you here - you have left Tropicana Field (That's on the road for you :P) with a split. If you're playing a playoff series without home field advantage, you have to be satisfied with that much, surely.

2 Games in Boston now will be a tough test for the Rays. I'm expecting a charged atmosphere for those games and this series is a lot closer than a lot of Red Sox fans would care to admit.

So Duke will slit himself just because he did not get a sweep?

At 10/12/08 11:26 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: So Duke will slit himself just because he did not get a sweep?

*searches for video feed via webcam*

At 10/12/08 05:26 AM, Coop83 wrote: The series isn't made by one game. Obviously, you're going to protect your better players. He obviously thought that Timlin could get the job done.

When was the last time Timlin got the job done? Timlin is nowhere near where he was 2-3 years ago and Terry Francona should know it.

2 Games in Boston now will be a tough test for the Rays. I'm expecting a charged atmosphere for those games and this series is a lot closer than a lot of Red Sox fans would care to admit.

Actually, we will have 3 straight home games. What makes me mad is NOT we are tied with the Rays after 2 games. I am content with a split an 1-1 series tie in their house. But I am bitter how we let them off the hook...we should have been up 2-0 easily, you know?

At 10/12/08 03:49 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Actually, we will have 3 straight home games. What makes me mad is NOT we are tied with the Rays after 2 games. I am content with a split an 1-1 series tie in their house. But I am bitter how we let them off the hook...we should have been up 2-0 easily, you know?

Well, I wouldn't be so sure that you're just being bitter. I think that you don't give the Rays much credit, when you consider what they've done this year, they deserve to be where they are at the moment. You didn't play well enough to deserve a series sweep and as a result, won't get one. We'll see how it goes on tomorrow night, when you both play in Fenway.

Well...we have Lester on the mound tonight. We need to win tonight's game, cannot afford to lose home court advantage back to the Rays in our home opener in the ALCS.

Shit, Lester is getting his ass banged by the Rays. We should have never allowed them off the hook in Game 2. >:(

Big Papi is not hitting. Our pitching stuff has surrendered 18 runs in the last 2 games.
I would start Dice K on short rest, the health status of Wakefield is questionable.

Phils are in good shape up 3-1 in their NLCS with Cole Hamels pitching Wednesday. I'd like to see them finish it out then for several reasons:
1.) Cole is their ace and has pitched well and deserves to have the ball and try to win it.
2.) The funerals for Charlie's mom and Shane's grandmother are Thursday and Friday respectively.
3.) As much as I'd like to see it clinched in Philadelphia, I'd still prefer a faster series win so each pitcher's arm can be rested.

So yes, I'd like this to be over Wednesday, but I'm reserving myself as I'm sure the Dodgers are going to be fighting tooth and nail to avert a loss, especially at home after their game 4 performance. I'm hoping for some more Weegee magic.

As for the ALCS, the Rays are looking good after that extra-innings affair and win another, to go up 2-1. I'll admit I'm a bit of a baseball purist and am not really interested in any Red Sox hype and would much rather see a Phillies/Rays series. I guess that puts me in the minority in terms of what everyone would like to see, but oh well.

At 10/13/08 06:23 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Shit, Lester is getting his ass banged by the Rays. We should have never allowed them off the hook in Game 2. >:(

Sour grapes. You need to concentrate on the ball that's being thrown to you here and now, not the one that was thrown hundreds of miles away in a different building.

At 10/13/08 11:58 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: I would start Dice K on short rest, the health status of Wakefield is questionable.

Yeah, but the kids of Tampa haven't really hit against many knucklers over their careers, have they? Might give you an advantage, keeping Dice-K back for when he's fully rested. Look what happened to the Dodgers when Joe Torre panicked and sent Derek Lowe out on short rest - bigger hole. Got to think of the bigger picture.

I know I'll never forgive myself for saying this, but relax. If the Sox panic at this point, it might win them 1 game and leave a gaping hole for the rest of the series.

At 10/14/08 03:25 AM, phileeguy wrote: Phils are in good shape up 3-1 in their NLCS with Cole Hamels pitching Wednesday. I'd like to see them finish it out then for several reasons:
1.) Cole is their ace and has pitched well and deserves to have the ball and try to win it.

Undoubtedly, you want your ace to go 8 innings of economical ball, with Lidge getting the save :P

2.) The funerals for Charlie's mom and Shane's grandmother are Thursday and Friday respectively.

Gives them a chance for the family stuff, before returning to business and the big prize that awaits.

3.) As much as I'd like to see it clinched in Philadelphia, I'd still prefer a faster series win so each pitcher's arm can be rested.

Got to be careful with this one - maybe they can over rest - if the Sox / Rays take it to 7 games (Highly possible), the winners of that might have a lot of momentum coming with them to game 1.

Yeah, I still remember what that 10 day layoff did to the Rockies

True enough about the rest period. Still, I'd prefer a rested starting rotation over a possibly tired one.

If the Phillies make it to the WS it's just icing on the cake from my standpoint, no matter the outcome. The fact that they could possibly be in it would make me happy, after 15 years of not being there. Plus, even though I think the Rays may match up in the Phils favor more-so than the Sox, I think that either AL team would have the advantage.

I'm going to piss myself if they lock this thing up on Wednesday.

A bit late but... MATT F'N STAIRS!!! Probably the last person I expected to see hit a go-ahead homer for the Phillies. I think Hamels will wrap it up on Wednesday.

Now watch as he gives up 6 runs in the first inning.

Coop, you forgot one thing. Although Wakefield is 19-5 against the Rays in his career, he is 0-2 against them this year. Since we are talking about this year, Dice K should get the nod over Wakefield who may still have some health issues. I am not saying that Dice K will pitch well on short rest, but it is worthy to take a chance.

Wakefield got bombed in the first inning. Why not starting Dice K on short rest? >:(

lol, Wakefield got served. I somehow found it funny because people keep on milking on the fact that he is 19-5 against the Rays in his career. Like I stated, he is 0-2 (about to be 0-3) against them THIS YEAR. When will they learn?

God, it is getting painful to watch.
Boston Masscre.

I will not be surprised if the Rays drop 20 on us.
Our offense is missing Manny so much right now. Despite all his warts, he is a beast in the field. Papi has not been the same without Manny batting in front of him. :(

OMG, Big Papi hit a triple and we scored our second run of the game? :O

Oh boy...it is good ol' Mike Timlin's turn to be raped in the ass in the damn orgy. >:O

I'm just posting to stop the ridiculous multi-posting going on.

Red Sox are sucking on all fronts. you don't generally win playoff games with only 2 runs.

Ok, they got 4 now... whatever.

I won't say it's over, but it sure as hell is bleak. Even with a "W" in the next game with Dice-K, Beckett's going to suck and finish off the year, most likely.

At 10/14/08 11:15 PM, RSQViper wrote: I'm just posting to stop the ridiculous multi-posting going on.

Rofl!

Red Sox are sucking on all fronts. you don't generally win playoff games with only 2 runs.

We did win Game 1 with the score 2-0.

Ok, they got 4 now... whatever.

Our offense was not that bad, it was our pitching did ourselves in.

I won't say it's over, but it sure as hell is bleak. Even with a "W" in the next game with Dice-K, Beckett's going to suck and finish off the year, most likely.

It is not over till it is over. As long as we win Game 5, we will get the momentum back. Don't forget that Kazmir is almost as bad if not worse in the playoffs.

At 10/14/08 05:00 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Coop, you forgot one thing. Although Wakefield is 19-5 against the Rays in his career, he is 0-2 against them this year.

Yeah, but there you were, telling me a few weeks ago that the Regular Season is so different from the postseason.

Since we are talking about this year, Dice K should get the nod over Wakefield who may still have some health issues. I am not saying that Dice K will pitch well on short rest, but it is worthy to take a chance.

I still think Francona made the right choice. Who better to try and dig you out of a big hole than Dice-K, who's bene one of your best pitchers this term?

At 10/14/08 10:37 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Oh boy...it is good ol' Mike Timlin's turn to be raped in the ass in the damn orgy. >:O

LOL Septuple post

At 10/14/08 11:15 PM, RSQViper wrote: I won't say it's over, but it sure as hell is bleak. Even with a "W" in the next game with Dice-K, Beckett's going to suck and finish off the year, most likely.

Not that I could ever watch a baseball series involving the Red Sox as a neutral, but it's really good to watch this postseason from a non-participating neutral fan.

Now if we can add some pinstripes to it for next year, we can get knocked out by the burgeoning Rays Dynasty*

*apologies to Philies fans

Sad to say but success breeds ugliness as you know why.

At 10/15/08 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Now if we can add some pinstripes to it for next year, we can get knocked out by the burgeoning Rays Dynasty*
*apologies to Philies fans

I take no umbrage with the assumption that the Rays (if and when they get in) will beat my Phils (if and when they get in). The AL has been the better league for quite a while, specifically the AL East. And now with the Rays showing that they can take care of the best of Boston AND New York - injuries or no injuries to each respective clubs - I'm already under the assumption that the AL team will beat the NL team. I'll take anything other than a sweep in good spirits.

What I DO take umbrage with that last statement is that there ARE Pinstripes in the postseason, just the Phillies red and not your Yankee blue Coop!. :)

At 10/15/08 01:22 PM, phileeguy wrote:

At 10/15/08 03:59 AM, Coop83 wrote: Now if we can add some pinstripes to it for next year, we can get knocked out by the burgeoning Rays Dynasty*
*apologies to Philies fans

I take no umbrage with the assumption that the Rays (if and when they get in) will beat my Phils (if and when they get in). The AL has been the better league for quite a while, specifically the AL East. And now with the Rays showing that they can take care of the best of Boston AND New York - injuries or no injuries to each respective clubs - I'm already under the assumption that the AL team will beat the NL team. I'll take anything other than a sweep in good spirits.

Well, it makes for good watching. If (I'll still use that for at least another game :P) the Phils and Rays meet in the World Series, I won't be unhappy for either team to win.

What I DO take umbrage with that last statement is that there ARE Pinstripes in the postseason, just the Phillies red and not your Yankee blue Coop!. :)

Now both you know and I know that I was refering to the Yankee blue pinstripes. There are other teams that wear them (White Sox, Marlins and the Cubs, aside from the Yanks and Phils). This case, I was referring to the lack of presence from the Bronx Bombers. Maybe next season, we'll be able to put a reasonable challenge up against the Rays for the Division.

Still, I look forward to seeing how it all pans out :)

Paps is enjoying sitting on his ass this series,he has a hard on for Rays nation.

I just want the Rays-Sox series to be over so DoD won't be making 8 multiple posts per game anymore.

So go Rays.