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Iran has long been a threat to the U.S. but now Iran poses a very serious threat! Iran is the world's biggest sponser of Terrorism and is now pursuing nuclear weapons! How should we deal with this threat?

Read these links and you'll understand what I'm talking about!

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/...us.reaction/index.html?related

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/02/09/iran.warning/

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38709

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...85-2002Jul28&notFound=true

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/01/sprj.irq.suicide.bomber/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...news/2003/09/28/ixnewstop.html

http://www.washingtoninstitute...ywatch/policywatch2004/827.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1153106/posts

Iranian officials obviously cause trouble in Iraq by sending terrorists over there, and that poses a great threat to our troops over there in Iraq.

The Iran threat MUST BE eliminated! but how? I have a feeling that we'll have to fight Iran soon in the War On Terror.

For Satellite image of Iran nuke sites go here:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1156138/posts

For some extra information on Iran, go here:

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html

Feel free to comment on what we should do about Iran.

Oh God not again...

At 7/7/04 08:12 PM, _Wraith_ wrote: Oh God not again...

Oh my God, not you again!

Haven't enough people died for something that is not real already?

At 7/7/04 08:16 PM, _Wraith_ wrote: Haven't enough people died for something that is not real already?

What's not real?

The terrorist threat posed by Iran.

Besides, these are people's LIVES we're sending to combat here. We have no right to send people to die on a whim. Besides, I don't doubt that if we send our army to Iran, not only are people in the Army going to start rebelling, but the entire world is going to come after us. Because we are not "liberating" these countries, we are INVADING them. And what everyone else is going to think is "First Afghanistan, then Iraq, now Iran? What's stopping them from coming after us?" It could mean WW3.

At 7/7/04 08:22 PM, _Wraith_ wrote: The terrorist threat posed by Iran.

Besides, these are people's LIVES we're sending to combat here. We have no right to send people to die on a whim. Besides, I don't doubt that if we send our army to Iran, but the entire world is going to come after us. Because we are not "liberating" these countries, we are INVADING them. And what everyone else is going to think is "First Afghanistan, then Iraq, now Iran? What's stopping them from coming after us?" It could mean WW3.

But what if Iran threatens us? That would justify our invading of Iran! We'd rather invade before they Invaded us! So we as a nation must take action before it's too late! Iran is a rogue nation and has NO right to posess Nuclear weapons! A terrorist supporting government such as Iran's CANNOT be trusted with those kind of weapons! and we actually do have the support of some of the other countries: Israel condems Iran for it's actions and are on the same side as us. So are Russia and the U.K. and most of Europe.
European nations such as France don't make as good of an ally but are still on the same side as us even though they're not as supportive. (They don't want Iran having nukes either!)
I think that Israel and the United Kingdom would make the best Allies for the War on Terror! Iran still has to be stopped if it's up to no good and is a threat to other nations!

At 7/7/04 08:47 PM, Alpha6 wrote: But what if Iran threatens us? That would justify our invading of Iran!

Have they threatened us yet? No.

We'd rather invade before they Invaded us! So we as a nation must take action before it's too late!

Iran doesn't have the manpower nor the weaponry to invade the US. Should Britain have invaded Germany 200 years ago because Germany would invade them in WW2?

Iran is a rogue nation and has NO right to posess Nuclear weapons!

Kid, no one should have nuclear weapons. Our armanent is more of a threat to world safety than any other nation/

A terrorist supporting government such as Iran's CANNOT be trusted with those kind of weapons!

Do you realize our Christian extremists are every bit as dangerous as any other terrorists? Do you realize that the US has sprung terrorist organizations ourselves, such as ELF?

and we actually do have the support of some of the other countries: Israel condems Iran for it's actions and are on the same side as us.

Israel is always on our side. We could want world domination and they would be on our side. We made the country.

So are Russia and the U.K. and most of Europe.

That's what was said when we invaded Iraq. Now what?

European nations such as France don't make as good of an ally but are still on the same side as us even though they're not as supportive. (They don't want Iran having nukes either!)

They just realize that this whole thing is getting out of hand, but they don't want us blazing through there, killing everything in our path. The US has that reputation.

I think that Israel and the United Kingdom would make the best Allies for the War on Terror! Iran still has to be stopped if it's up to no good and is a threat to other nations!

That's what was said about Iraq as well. Besides, they barely have enough strength to support their economy, attempting to invade another country would cause the collapse of the government.

Has anyone noticed a pattern here? We instated Saddam into power, 20-something years later we invade the same country and remove him from power. We defend Iran in the Gulf War, and now we want to take it over. We're also boycotting Canada into a possible recession. I fear for our allies.

This is nothing more than a thinly-veiled attempt to expand our borders and possess more oil. Besides, we haven't even cleaned up Afghanistan yet, and we can't invade another country without justifiable reasons. I don't pay attention to the terror warning level on TV, why should I pay attention to this display of sickening nationalism?

Gee, it gives me such a warm fuzzy inside that a 15 year old boy in Florida is so willing to send my pals and I off to fight a war that he thinks justified because Iran doesn't like us.
Tell me, boy, why should I fight your war? Why should I take your word over that of all 435 members of Congress, or even that of the President? (Though I admit, you may actually be capable of better problem solving skills than our Commander in Chief at the moment)

Rediculous, Iran was the target of WMD that were clearly destroyed or moved during the Iraq war HELLO!

At 7/7/04 08:47 PM, Alpha6 wrote:

At 7/7/04 08:22 PM, _Wraith_ wrote: The terrorist threat posed by Iran.

Besides, these are people's LIVES we're sending to combat here. We have no right to send people to die on a whim. Besides, I don't doubt that if we send our army to Iran, but the entire world is going to come after us. Because we are not "liberating" these countries, we are INVADING them. And what everyone else is going to think is "First Afghanistan, then Iraq, now Iran? What's stopping them from coming after us?" It could mean WW3.

But what if Iran threatens us? That would justify our invading of Iran! We'd rather invade before they Invaded us! So we as a nation must take action before it's too late! Iran is a rogue nation and has NO right to posess Nuclear weapons! A terrorist supporting government such as Iran's CANNOT be trusted with those kind of weapons!

Our country REGULARLY supports terrorism:

see link:

http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/ChronologyofTerror.html

should we invade ourselves????

and we actually do have the support of some of the other countries: Israel condems Iran for it's actions and are on the same side as us. So are Russia and the U.K. and most of Europe.

European nations such as France don't make as good of an ally but are still on the same side as us even though they're not as supportive. (They don't want Iran having nukes either!)

Honestly, I'm MORE afraid of our country having nukes than Iran. We actually have a history of using nukes on human beings, a distinction no other nation has.

aand we use nuclear materials on our own people as well:

http://www.netti.fi/~makako/mind/radiatio.htm

I think that Israel and the United Kingdom would make the best Allies for the War on Terror! Iran still has to be stopped if it's up to no good and is a threat to other nations!

Look at what happens when we have a 'War' on anything... 'War on Drugs?' CIA starts selling crack in Los Angeles...

'War on Illiteracy' == Illiteracy rates higher than ever...

"War on Poverty" --- more poor people than ever....

a "War on Terror" --- terror rates have increased....

no thanks... i'd Prefer a PEACE against TERROR.

At 7/7/04 08:09 PM, Alpha6 wrote: How should we deal with this threat?

Launch missiles at them, I'm sure that'll help.

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That or stop launching missiles at everything in the middle east which is causing terrorism.

well ur american government showed sum of those lovely pictures of highly possible sites which contain weopons of mass destruction. Well i took a closer look at these pictures and i am no expert but it looks just like the patato factory which we have just 5 kilometers from my house. And drawing nice cirkels should suppose to be sam sites and orher ground forces.

well america has lots of million dollar spy sattelites, how difficult should it be then to make pictures actually showing a sam site, or actually showing real proof.

My hope is (and i am not a pacifist or sh*t) that u americans dont vote for that bush again, but for a sane president, which actually cares more about fixing his own country instead of attacking others and increasing the hate and resistance against america.

At 7/8/04 01:05 PM, MikeFulp wrote: You are smarter than most of the people in this topic. Keep posting!

That's because I'm not posting =P

Well, from the looks of it, no one is concerned about the threat posed from Iran except me! This is just sad. If only some people would just open their eyes!

my eyes are open, and I see it, and I don't care. Iran means nothing to me. They haven't attacked us and I really don't want young men and women of our country sent off in yet another senseless war for them to die in. If it was a battle worth dying for, fine. But it isn't.

Alright then, Rob_G, since you're obviously an authority on comprehending surveillance photos taken by spy planes and satellites, why don't you use your outstanding skills now and tell me what you see in this picture here:

Let's fuck them up.

At 7/8/04 04:19 PM, cheshirepus wrote: Alright then, Rob_G, since you're obviously an authority on comprehending surveillance photos taken by spy planes and satellites, why don't you use your outstanding skills now and tell me what you see in this picture here:

Can you link to a better quality picture? No one can tell anything about the pic with the quality as it is.

At 7/8/04 05:01 PM, MikeFulp wrote: Also, forgot about all the valuable sources, it seems your opinion is ABOVE any credible source.

word, bro, word. He's too good for us... he's better than Fox news!? AGH!

At 7/8/04 04:19 PM, cheshirepus wrote: Alright then, Rob_G, since you're obviously an authority on comprehending surveillance photos taken by spy planes and satellites, why don't you use your outstanding skills now and tell me what you see in this picture here:

First of all i never said i was an authority i was just pointing out the fact that you are all too eager too believe that this picture shows weapons of mass destruction.

That last picture u send in, i agree dude it was the best proof. If that picture was taken in iran, i will ask my dutch prime minister if he could send all the troops available (note the tone of sarcasm)

that black and white picture was at such bad quality that for a minute i saw sum tanks in it, but i saw the playing grounds where i used to play with my friends when i was six as well.

But my main problem was that u were prepared to send another hundreds of thousands soldiers to war in iran because u believed to see sumthing in a picture which was taken in 2001.
today in the year 2004 i ensure you that America has the equipment to make better quality pictures than that black and white picture.

Iran is no threat, they have internal problems and would not do something to upset the local population.

Aw come on!

CNN is a credible source. The next thing you know, people will expect me to list MSNBC or FOX News as sources.

The only thing CNN says is that Iran tried to purify nuclear materials, which can be used to make energy or when further puified make weapons. There is also said that there is lots of global pressure which prevents iran from continuing further enrichment of nuclear materials.

but that is no excuse to put up pictures of naked men

Rob... Oh, that wasn't a picture taken anywhere near the middle east. I'm sorry guys, I thought the quality of the picture would be better, but you know how it goes with posting. Anyway, that's a picture taken of a Cuban nuclear missile sight in 1969. My point being, that you can only have faith that what the intelligence reports are telling you is true. Here's the link to the picture, by the way:
http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/c62_10.htm
And here's a link to the main site with more pictures:
http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/cuba.htm
There's no way you can tell there are missiles and launch sites/pads by looking at these yourself, and we absolutely know for sure that this is accurate intelligence. So how are you going to look at the same kind of picture (though it may be in color now) and be any more certain of your convictions? And as my final rhetoric... Do you honestly believe that the military is going to make public our most adavanced surveillance? Our true capabilities aren't something you want to just tell the world about.

I said earlier that these pictures were taken in 1969 during the Cuban missile crisis, but these were actually taken between 1962 and 1963 in preparation for Soviet nuclear missiles.
Sorry about that.

http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/c62_10.htm
And here's a link to the main site with more pictures:
http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/cuba.htm
There's no way you can tell there are missiles and launch sites/pads by looking at these yourself, and we absolutely know for sure that this is accurate intelligence. So how are you going to look at the same kind of picture (though it may be in color now) and be any more certain of your convictions? And as my final rhetoric... Do you honestly believe that the military is going to make public our most adavanced surveillance? Our true capabilities aren't something you want to just tell the world about.

How very odd, as a deterrant you think you'd want to reveal if you could for example read a newspaper from orbit. It keeps the bad guys more honest (or at least a lot more careful)...

And if our intelligence capabilities are nothing to tell the world about, how come every day, the administration is touting the intelligence FAILUREs. If anything will encourage a terrorist or attacker, it is hearing that your enemy cannot find his ass in the dark with both hands and a flashlight.

Well, unlike so many others here or anywhere else in the world for that matter, I choose not to pretend that I know everything about how the psycology of warfare/politics and/or its failures and how it is more effectively used.

I did NOT post the black and white picture! Someone else did!