The Falkland Islands

[Etonboy]

(Or Malvinas if you are Argentinian) I know I am a late for the 20th anniversary of the war, but who do you believe are the rightful 'owners' of this land.

Obviously being British I would say that the isles are Brintains that and the fact that all of the inhabitantsgive the impression of being proud of their British citizenship.

I remember hearing on a documentry that the Argentines saw them as theirs, but I can't remeber the reason they gave for it, so why did the war actually happen?

Another documentry I saw said it was so the dictatorship that was inplace in Argentina at the time was desperate to stay in control and it was an attempt to keep power, anyway what are you thoughts?

[bakomusha]

like most us morons i never knew thare was a war or place, til i got a book called tuning the tide of war.

[mightypotato]

Actually, to this day, I still don't know what the conflict in the Balkans was all about. So I can't say either way.

[witeshark]

The way I see it, the Argentines wanted to be independant, and the Britons couldn't afford to lose a territory by force... and the rest is history .

[Earfetish]

It was just Thatcher looking for a successful war to boost her popularity.

Like Iraq. Except for Iraq backfired.

[fli]

Here is the link to the history of the Falklands... since it appears to be closer to Europe, I would assume that it would be British territory... but then again, as the saying goes, The sun never settles on the British Crown. Let's give Argentina a chance...

Falkland Islands, a history

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[fli]

At 7/6/04 11:15 PM, spanishfli wrote: Here is the link to the history of the Falklands... since it appears to be closer to Europe, I would assume that it would be British territory... but then again, as the saying goes, The sun never settles on the British Crown. Let's give Argentina a chance...

Falkland Islands, a history

WAIT A SEC... I made a BIG mistake... Seems that Falkland Islands are much more closer to Argentina...

Falkland Islands, geography

[Etonboy]

At 7/6/04 10:24 PM, mighty_potato wrote: Actually, to this day, I still don't know what the conflict in the Balkans was all about. So I can't say either way.

What are you on about? the Falklands is nothing to do with the Balkans there like on opposite sides of the world

At 7/6/04 10:30 PM, witeshark wrote: The way I see it, the Argentines wanted to be independant, and the Britons couldn't afford to lose a territory by force... and the rest is history .

But the inhabitants of the Island were British not Argentinian and like I said they seemed on the programmes I saw to be proud of their British citizenship don't forget the English had the Islands since the 18th century I believe.

[LegendaryLukus]

In time for the 25th anniversary of the war, I will say this.

As soon as the Argentinians knew we were coming, they should've packed up and gone home. I am not putting down Argentina in any way, but most of the Argentinian force was conscripted. I have studied many eye-witness accounts on the conflict and the impression the Argentine combatants give off is one of panic. They were so panicy that in many cases they shot down their own planes. If they didn't have the stomach to fight, they should not have tried to take the islands.

I am in no way an old imperialist who is rolling in the old remnants of the British Empire. All I am saying is that that conflict could easily have been avoided. Who is to blame? As always, the blood
of the innocent is on the hands of the GENERALS!

[Der-Lowe]

Well, allow me Ihave studied the subject thouroughly.

At 7/6/04 10:30 PM, witeshark wrote: The way I see it, the Argentines wanted to be independant, and the Britons couldn't afford to lose a territory by force... and the rest is history .

Argentians were independent since 1816, so no. The British took the islands by force in 1833 if I'm not mistaken, Argentina wasn't united and was in a post-independence anarchy, so it did nothing.

WAIT A SEC... I made a BIG mistake... Seems that Falkland Islands are much more closer to Argentina...

Precisely, the main reasons why we claim they should be ours is that they were taken from us by force, and that they are on our continental shelf, so legally they should be ours.

The Malvinas war is a complete different matter.

And I think this should be in Politics.

But the inhabitants of the Island were British not Argentinian and like I said they seemed on the programmes I saw to be proud of their British citizenship don't forget the English had the Islands since the 18th century I believe.

[Der-Lowe]

Oh, and is the 25th anniversary.

[Crue]

They belong to Seutschland. EVERYTHING BELONGS TO DEUTSCHLAND!

[DevourerJay]

and anyone but argentinians or brits should care? i know all about it... and i still dont care... althought they SHOULD be argentinian since they are closer, and i think we're a little past the whole "colony" thing...

[LegendaryLukus]

It is a little more complex than "the islands are close to Argentina, so therefore give them to Argentina." There is the human elemant to consider. Pretty much every inhabitant of the islands do not want to come under Argentinian rule. As long as that remains the case, they will be under our protection. There are many precedents of this across the globe.

[Canopener]

Whatever the inhabitants want should be respected

[WilliWowza]

Well you shouldn't try to take away territory from an already crumbling empire now should you?

[LegendaryLukus]

At 3/31/07 07:18 AM, WilliWowza wrote: Well you shouldn't try to take away territory from an already crumbling empire now should you?

I don't understand what you mean. The majority of the British Empire had been dismantled by the time of this conflict.

[WilliWowza]

At 3/31/07 07:41 AM, LegendaryLukus wrote:

At 3/31/07 07:18 AM, WilliWowza wrote: Well you shouldn't try to take away territory from an already crumbling empire now should you?

I don't understand what you mean. The majority of the British Empire had been dismantled by the time of this conflict.

Exactly, so what little sovereignty Britain has left, they'll want to hang on to. The Falklands were as much about proving that Britain was still a World Power than it was getting those smelly islands back.

[LegendaryLukus]

At 3/31/07 07:51 AM, WilliWowza wrote:

At 3/31/07 07:41 AM, LegendaryLukus wrote:

At 3/31/07 07:18 AM, WilliWowza wrote: Well you shouldn't try to take away territory from an already crumbling empire now should you?

I don't understand what you mean. The majority of the British Empire had been dismantled by the time of this conflict.

Exactly, so what little sovereignty Britain has left, they'll want to hang on to. The Falklands were as much about proving that Britain was still a World Power than it was getting those smelly islands back.

Oh, well in that case I agree completely. The Falklands were nothing but rocks before the conflict (Britain literally does own quite a few rocks, by the way) but it has been greatly upgraded since.

[Idocreating]

It's ours, and just because it's really far away doesn't mean those gits can have it.

Plus, wars usually make you seem like a better Prime Minister, if your winning them.

[zzzzd]

Argentinians claim is stupid. If anything the islands should have independence, howether the inhabitance of the islands consider them selves British and don't want independence (And they are too small for independence)

Sovereignty of the Falkland Islands

The islands were owned by the French, British and Spanish before Argentinia was even a country.

It's such a sad war, because the argentinian wanker sent young conscripts, which were hardly going to win a war nearly solely fought by Royal Marines.