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ok. here is whats wrong with gay marriage: 1. really gross. 2. people are used to man/women kissing on the street not man/man or woman/woman(:P). 3.the issue of kids: how can man/man make a kid with each other w/o adopting 1? same goes for women. the only way gays and lezboz can have a family is 2 adopt an orphan. 4.gods will. u read the bible it says the first couple was adam and eve not adam and adam or eve and eve. god created humans with the intention we would reproduce more humans. u cant do that with gays u just cant. males have no egg and females dont have the "right" (i dont no any other way 2 say it...) cum.

At 7/2/04 09:45 AM, Blamm3r_4_Lif3 wrote: 4.gods will. u read the bible it says the first couple was adam and eve not adam and adam or eve and eve. god created humans with the intention we would reproduce more humans. u cant do that with gays u just cant. males have no egg and females dont have the "right" (i dont no any other way 2 say it...) cum.

Firstly, not everyone is religious, so why the hell should they get a say in if people outside their religion wanna marry. Sure they can kick you out of their religion, but they can't stop you from marrying all together. Secondly it's not an issue if they can have children or not. They KNOW they can't have kids without adopted. It's more for the symbolic aspect and for the legal benefits if the other partner dies.

At 7/2/04 12:57 AM, SCHMEGULTON_MACGEE wrote: I don't quite see how beer drinking correlates with gay marriage.

dude, you missed the point. the point is that saying gay people can't marry because they're gay is totally arbitrary. i don't see what the big deal is. honestly, you people against it make it seem as if doing a kindness to someone who is supposedly "wrong" on a religious matter will summon satan from the bowels of hell.

if marrige is such a sacred thing, why do we have divorce?

At 7/1/04 10:50 PM, PsychoMonkeyParade wrote: Tell me. Because I can't figure out why it's so bad.

Its disgusting.

And if you say 'it's disgusting' you're an asshole.

Woops! Haha seriously, you're 14, why favor faggots that young? Wait until you get older and girls start saying "I wish I had a gay friend" then you can pretend to be gay because when you touch their boobs they'd think you didn't get any pleasure from it and just laugh.

Quite a remarkable outcome but no, gays should not allowed to marry each other. If he prevent them from legally being wed then we can hopefully make some of it die out. Or on the other hand we could round them up and an island and let them all fuck until they get AIDS and die.

Yes yes I like my last philosophy.

At 7/2/04 11:57 AM, pilot-doofy wrote:
Quite a remarkable outcome but no, gays should not allowed to marry each other. If he prevent them from legally being wed then we can hopefully make some of it die out. Or on the other hand we could round them up and an island and let them all fuck until they get AIDS and die.

Yes yes I like my last philosophy.

You have some serious problems. We ignored them through all of history, executed them even, and look, they're still here. And trying to make them all die already happened and failed. The fact is some people are born gay/lez and we have to live with it. So why not let them do what they want and everyone just leaves it.

At 7/2/04 11:57 AM, pilot-doofy wrote:
Woops! Haha seriously, you're 14, why favor faggots that young? Wait until you get older and girls start saying "I wish I had a gay friend" then you can pretend to be gay because when you touch their boobs they'd think you didn't get any pleasure from it and just laugh.

Quite a remarkable outcome but no, gays should not allowed to marry each other. If he prevent them from legally being wed then we can hopefully make some of it die out. Or on the other hand we could round them up and an island and let them all fuck until they get AIDS and die.

Yes yes I like my last philosophy.

Tsk... This is why I don't post much... Retarded posts like this wheather they be satire or not just wastes time and irritate the more sensitive "debaters"

In the mean time... Sir you can go off to a remote island and die From AIDS Its a style of death most befitting your opions.

Affects those who are uneducated. Is probabley painful to expeience but is certainley to watch... And makes you look weakminded and feeble. /flame

At 7/2/04 09:45 AM, Blamm3r_4_Lif3 wrote: ok. here is whats wrong with gay marriage: 1. really gross. 2. people are used to man/women kissing on the street not man/man or woman/woman(:P). 3.the issue of kids: how can man/man make a kid with each other w/o adopting 1? same goes for women. the only way gays and lezboz can have a family is 2 adopt an orphan. 4.gods will. u read the bible it says the first couple was adam and eve not adam and adam or eve and eve. god created humans with the intention we would reproduce more humans. u cant do that with gays u just cant. males have no egg and females dont have the "right" (i dont no any other way 2 say it...) cum.

Well if the whole poitn of marriage to have children, how come post monepausal women and impotant men can marry eachother? They cant have kids... So tell me... What's the real reason?

At 7/2/04 11:57 AM, pilot-doofy wrote:
Woops! Haha seriously, you're 14, why favor faggots that young? Wait until you get older and girls start saying "I wish I had a gay friend" then you can pretend to be gay because when you touch their boobs they'd think you didn't get any pleasure from it and just laugh.

Quite a remarkable outcome but no, gays should not allowed to marry each other. If he prevent them from legally being wed then we can hopefully make some of it die out. Or on the other hand we could round them up and an island and let them all fuck until they get AIDS and die.

Wait, so you are against gay marriage because you think it might make more gay people? What is so wrong with gay people? Religion doesn't have a say in this at all, Christianity teaches that some huge all powerful thing created everything and that man spontaneously appeared on the earth because of this. Its funny how everyone won't admit to being homophobic when that is clearly all this is. Quit it with the "it defiles the definition of marriage" stuff, the first dictionary was created by one man, so you've put your faith in two books, one created by one person alone that has since been revised, and one written before anyone can remember that is mostly fiction.

AIDS is also not a gay only disease, in fact, more straight people have AIDS then gay people.

Let me say this........gays are not born gay. I know some gay people and they even admit its because they couldn't get girls attention the way they wanted and got tired of females so become homosexual.

Don't fill me full of bullshit, I've had more life experience in 14 years with all sorts of subjects and debates including homosexuality and its marriage dispute than you probably will in over 20 years.

Don't waste your times faggot loving morons.

At 7/2/04 02:47 PM, pilot-doofy wrote: Let me say this........gays are not born gay.

Actually, they are. People who sudden'y "turn gay" are were either closet homos or really fucked up.

Don't fill me full of bullshit, I've had more life experience in 14 years with all sorts of subjects and debates including homosexuality and its marriage dispute than you probably will in over 20 years.

I had more experiance in my life by the age of 10 then you will ever have. Why is this? Because you hate gays and I grew up in a world where I knew GLBT people, and some were family friends. Because I am open minded about people, I will learn a lot more than you ever will.

Don't waste your times faggot loving morons.

See above.

At 7/2/04 02:47 PM, pilot-doofy wrote: Let me say this........

We can't stop you, its a forum

:gays are not born gay. I know some gay people and they even admit its because they couldn't get girls attention the way they wanted and got tired of females so become homosexual.

So they are gay because they failed? Thats an invalid argument, they are gay because thats how they are. It doesn't change, and it certainly didn't change because of something like that. So you know fellow 14 year olds who got tired of females and became gay? since the whole 'girls have cooties' stage usually ends around age 11, 3 years of chasing girls isn't a huge deal. People who are in their 40s have dealt with rejection since that age and they don't 'become homosexual'.

Don't fill me full of bullshit, I've had more life experience in 14 years with all sorts of subjects and debates including homosexuality and its marriage dispute than you probably will in over 20 years.

You assume way too much, simply because you think you've had more experience than everyone else doesn't make your opinion right. considering people generally don't learn how to speak until around age 3 and don't remember much before age 4, I'd say your 10 years of experience doesn't amount to much. Thats a generous estimate as well, considering it probably isn't until around age 8 that you realize what adults are talking about

Don't waste your times faggot loving morons.

You are the only one who is allowed to waste your time? I don't think so. You obviously don't have much experience in debates, otherwise you wouldn't fluff up your arguments with such worthless statements. When you are debating something you don't beat around the bush with statements such as that, and your opening statement. Make a sound conclusion to your argument, it will make you sound more competent, and also add weight to whatever you have to say. Good grammar is also a neccesity.

Zing!
Doofy, you got burned.

There was once a time when I thought I knew everything and was smarter than everyone else, back when I was 14. Now through many, but not that many, more years of experience I realized I didn't know anything, and when you become and adult, and hopefully a contrbuting member of society you will realize the same.

And message to everyone else, please ban this kid next he says faggot, will you?

At 7/2/04 03:18 PM, Camarohusky wrote: There was once a time when I thought I knew everything and was smarter than everyone else, back when I was 14. Now through many, but not that many, more years of experience I realized I didn't know anything, and when you become and adult, and hopefully a contrbuting member of society you will realize the same.

Amen, I didn't want to say it though. For some reason I still hold punches. I honestly don't remember much other than I thought I knew everything, and now I know that I was wrong. Unfortunately I'm not an adult yet. But I will be soon. (sadly, not soon enough to cast a vote in the election... too bad it isn't the first tues. in December...)

You know, he may be right. They aren't born gay, they become gay. Religious folks say it's a learned behavior and I say they're right. They have to be right because they're the teachers. Telling boys the evils of sex and the naked female body while allowing them to shower with the other boys during P.E. classes. And don't even me started on Catholic boys kneeling down in front of grown men with their mouths open awaiting some white substance to be placed in for them to swallow. And some preacher expects me to believe the cause of homosexuality is a purple Teletubby? Fuck that noise.

So, to the religious right, the choice is yours. Either they're born that way or you created it.

At 7/2/04 03:18 PM, Camarohusky wrote: There was once a time when I thought I knew everything and was smarter than everyone else, back when I was 14.

are you talking to me or that one guy?

oh, that other dood. sry.

At 7/2/04 09:45 AM, Blamm3r_4_Lif3 wrote:

:3.the issue of kids: how can man/man make a kid with each other w/o adopting 1?

But, in turn, that would turn out to help. Addoption, is a very good thing.

At 7/2/04 09:45 AM, Blamm3r_4_Lif3 wrote: ok. here is whats wrong with gay marriage: 1. really gross.

To you it is. But isn't touching your eyeball gross to some people. Isn't cracking your hand gross to some people.

2. people are used to man/women kissing on the street not man/man or woman/woman(:P).

People were also used to racism.

3.the issue of kids: how can man/man make a kid with each other w/o adopting 1? same goes for women. the only way gays and lezboz can have a family is 2 adopt an orphan.

I would ask Spanishfili on this. He is homosexual, and he has a biological child on the way.

4.gods will. u read the bible it says the first couple was adam and eve not adam and adam or eve and eve. god created humans with the intention we would reproduce more humans. u cant do that with gays u just cant. males have no egg and females dont have the "right" (i dont no any other way 2 say it...) cum.

Why limit the rights of everyone for the beliefs of only some?

At 7/2/04 11:54 AM, cam_kitsune wrote: dude, you missed the point. the point is that saying gay people can't marry because they're gay is totally arbitrary.

Gay people can get married, dipstick.

At 7/2/04 02:47 PM, pilot-doofy wrote: Don't waste your times faggot loving morons.

Haha, good job making a total jackass out of yourself.

I say we start another Civil War and defeat the North!!!

Id enjoy shooting a Gay person oddly anuff... WE GOT TEXAS !@@@@!1@@12
22!!!12!!!2@@@@!!!

WOO HOO

Is it true if they pass the Gay marriage thing South Carolina will Suceed(<<Spelling) from the union? That would be kinda cool cause thats how the First Civil War started

At 7/3/04 12:06 AM, Captain_Kingfish wrote: I say we start another Civil War and defeat the North!!!

Is it true if they pass the Gay marriage thing South Carolina will Suceed(<<Spelling) from the union? That would be kinda cool cause thats how the First Civil War started

Is this guy really as crazy as he makes himself out to be?

I was just kidding...

At 7/2/04 02:47 PM, pilot-doofy wrote: Let me say this........gays are not born gay.

Oh! You sthilly goose!

No, seriously... I never choose to be gay and I've fucked more cute bitches then you could EVER do when I was still playing straight for my family and friends. Although I knew I was gay from the start... coming out was the most difficult.

At 7/2/04 02:47 PM, pilot-doofy wrote: Let me say this........gays are not born gay. I know some gay people and they even admit its because they couldn't get girls attention the way they wanted and got tired of females so become homosexual.

Don't fill me full of bullshit, I've had more life experience in 14 years with all sorts of subjects and debates including homosexuality and its marriage dispute than you probably will in over 20 years.

Don't waste your times faggot loving morons.

Ha Ha. Dude you can't hate people because their gay its like being a fucking KKK. Saying that we are faggot loving morons is like saying all of us are gay (some aren't). Everyone has their right to choose. Not letting gay people marry is like not letting straight people marrie. What happens after that happens.

<PS : You are just about equalent to a gaybasher>

At 7/2/04 11:57 AM, pilot-doofy wrote:

Or on the other hand we could round them up and an island and let them all fuck until they get AIDS and die.

Yes yes I like my last philosophy.

People who've seen me on this board have known me to be relatively nice... but I need to say something here, so pardon me...

I'd like to wear your sphincter for a bracelet, you fucking rotten asshole. How dare you say something so fucking evil about people who haven't done a thing to you? I hope your kids end up queer, you fuck!

Thank you.

At 7/2/04 02:47 PM, pilot-doofy wrote: Let me say this........gays are not born gay.

I love this comment from ignorant people because it gives me the opportunity to ask why you think it's so easy to switch teams? Do you like men but choose to be with women? Do you fight to get rid of a hard-on in the guy's locker room? If yes, then it's obviously a choice for you to be with women. If not, then it's NATURAL for you to get a chubby for chicks and not for guys. Turn it vicey-versy and it's my situation.

Girls don't do it for me. Show me straight porn and I'm looking at the guy's ass. If I look at the girl, I lose my boner. That's not a fucking choice, that's just how it is. My imagination's good enough to fake it, but why deal with the misery of that, not to mention the mind-fuck for the girl?

What's wrong with Gay Marriage?:

It's an easy concept to understand. "Marriage" in it's true sense is a Holy ceremony between a man and a woman. Spare me the divorce rates, wedlock childrent, etc., I'm talking about the "practice" itself, not what our crummy society has turned it into.

BECAUSE marriage is "holy", it follows ancient doctrine that many people follow. The Gay/lesbian community trying to demand a "right" to get married would be devastating to to these doctrines, you can NOT tell people to all of a sudden ignore YEARS of sacred law

That being said, I'd like to say that I am in 100 percent support of the Social/Civil Contract, which gives gays/lesbians all the rights that come with marriage without having to cross that "Sanctity" barrier.

This whole thing can be avoided with the Social/Civil Contract, it's the people that want to have their cake and eat it to that are making the process such a pain in the ass.

At 7/3/04 05:13 AM, darkmage8 wrote: What's wrong with Gay Marriage?:

It's an easy concept to understand. "Marriage" in it's true sense is a Holy ceremony between a man and a woman. Spare me the divorce rates, wedlock childrent, etc., I'm talking about the "practice" itself, not what our crummy society has turned it into.

Gays WANT the STATE marriage... Marriage in a church is a WHOLE different issue.

And since your concept of marriage is holy and fags aren't holy and thus should be bared from this institution, then marriage by state, which is a secular marriage, thus renders your argument into a big whooping nil and a whole lot of zilch...

Five words for everybody: "Separation of church and state."
Nobody seems to get that religious issues shouldn't have any bearing in our government, given that there are multiple religions in the United States other than Christianity, along with a vast amount on non-religious people. It's a nation of diversity, including religious diversity. Leave religion to practice, not polotics.

As for the whole "sanctity of marriage" argument; two words come to mind with that: "Bull shit." The title of marriage should be allowed by anybody who is in love, even if it's two men or two ladies. The government taking that right away from homosexuals boils down to one thing, suppression. It's not so much about the political benefeits of being married (because if that were the case, then a civil union would be enough), but more about not getting right stripped away from them because of a trait of theirs. Really, not letting gay marriages happen is just a punch in the face to all homosexuals because they are different. It's all about principle.