At 9/18/01 01:37 PM, K_psychotic wrote:
ok ok ok everyone seems to be forgetting something.
Well, enlighten us, O omnipotent one.
15,000 people men, women, and children are dead.
Try 5,000. When making political commentary, such as this post, 'tis best not to exaggerate; doing so makes your statements seem less factual.
first of all there is no way in hell we will not let their lives go un-avenged.
Who said we were? Who in the fuck ever, EVER said, "well, they win. screw it, boys, let's go home." Jesus H. Christ, "avenging" their deaths doesn't mean we have to bomb the population of another nation to hell! It should more precisely mean finding the organization responsible, then bringing them to justice, where they'll most certainly feel the wrath of a pissed-off America through an overbearing Judicial system. (Oh, and by the way, you had a triple-negative in that statement[something I've never seen before], characterized by your usage of "no way," "will not," and "un-avenged" in the same sentence; essentially, you said, "We will most certainly let the lives lost go un-avenged.")
Secondly there are other terrorist organizations out there. It's a "war on terrorism" not just bin laden, he's our main focus right now but it won't end right there.
If this whole thing was all about a "war on terrorism," then we would never even consider bombing Afghanistan. True, Afghanistan has terrorist training camps in their borders; but that's not the fault of the civilians there! THE TALIBAN TOOK OVER THE COUNTRY IN 1997, AND THEY ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TERRORISTS BEING THERE! The Afghanians didn't take a poll on whether or not they wanted religious psychotics training to kill others en masse in their backyards; they don't have any rights at all! Dammit, bombing Afghanistan would be like bombing a Japanese P.O.W. camp holding Americans in WW2. (On a similar note, if there were even ONE American in Afghanistan, we wouldn't want to bomb anyplace even bordering the country. However, since we know that isn't the case, we feel free to bomb away! Cause no other country's people matter to us!)
It's up to Afghanastan to either hand over bin laden (because we al know they can) or to keep him and have their country crushed.
Really? Wait… so we all KNOW they can simply hand over their leader, just like that? OK, then; send your mayor over to my state, or else I'll bomb yours. That sounds fair enough.
WELL? What's taking so long?
Now you really have to look at how weak minded they are if they do keep him. Osama convinced them that they could beat not only the U.S. but every alliance they have going with them. It's pretty much the world (excluding china japan india etc) vs. a middle-east country.
Wow, I never thought of that! Cause last I heard on the news, the Taliban is thought to have branches of supporters stemming all throughout the middle-east, in numerous countries besides Afghanistan. You see, Sir Simpleton, it's not even us versus a middle-east nation; it's us versus a middle-eastern religious CULT of sorts.
Besides, like I've said MANY times before, the Taliban aren't in Afghanistan on peaceful terms of ANY kind; they oppress those under their rule like white, American slave owners did in the 18- and 1900s. My point?: these Taliban assholes don’t HAVE to convince anyone about anything! Have you ever even TRIED looking beyond your own comfortable, little existence to realize that maybe, just maybe, not everyone lives in a country as tolerant as yours?
There was really only one man who worked for taliban who could even rival Osama but guess what....his ass was assassinated a week ago.
…Who the fuck’s that? I didn’t hear anything about Americans giving a shit about Afghanistan, the Taliban, or Osama Bin Laden UNTIL just last week!
So now here you have at it's more likely ww3 then the an operation "desert storm" except this time you finish the job.
A) Horrible grammar and spelling;
B) Your comparisons don’t make sense. You compare WW3 (a war that hasn’t even occurred yet) to Desert Storm (a fight that America wanted to get involved in, which ended years ago). How can you say that anything is more like something that DID happen, and less like something that HASN’T HAPPENED YET??? That statement completely breaches the basics of logic.
America is an amazing country where anyone no matter race, religion, or creed have the chance to speak freely about their view points.
And yet the people of this great country feel the need to stereotype different ethic groups and label them with horridly offensive slurs, and promote idiocy, insecurity, and crippling co-dependence through pop culture; we have a government that lies to us “in order to protect us,” a fat-headed arrogance that we’re untouchable by any other international power, corrupted, biased police forces around the country, and because of the attack on the WTC/pentagon/airlines of the US, a deep-rooted yearning to bomb the shit out of a defenseless country (so as to extract sweet, sweet revenge) from sea to shining sea.
Yep; God Bless America. But I digress…
Yeah, we have freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc. Y’know what’s one freedom we don’t have, though? Freedom to play God. We have absolutely NO RIGHT whatsoever to take the lives of civilians. We’ve come a long way from the archaic ideal of “An Eye For An Eye.” Revenge shouldn’t be taken merely by matching the number of our lost countrymen to the number of people we kill! That’s nothing but simple, sick hatred.
If we don't attack and we don't fight then what are we? Cowards? Weak? Not american...who knows.
Oh, sorry, I keep forgetting; we Americans don’t measure our self-worth on the international playing field by our intelligence, our compassion, our empathy, our economic standpoint, our government’s competence, or our contributions to the research and development of the Free World. Nope; we measure it in how many innocent, colored fuckers we can blow away after we’ve been screwed over by a faceless enemy. Damn! Now why can I never remember that?