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The above two links show how Michael Moore distorts the truth to make conservatives look bad.

There is not doubt that he has distorted the truth. But in a scale of absolute bullshit to minor tuth tweaking, he's a lot closer to the tweaking than the current administration is about EVERYTHING.

They used a report on terror to make it sound like it was a safer place to be since the Iraq war, but it took 8 pages of revisions to get the numbers anywhere near reality. The first couple of pages, thats truth tweaking, or possibly a mistake, 4 pages, incompetence, 8 pages - you are full of shit.

And I'll make this point, Michael Moore is an entertainer. The Administration controls the lives of people around the world. If I'm gonna want the truth from either, I want the foks in charge to be honest and on the ball. Since thats not the case, why are a few errors on MM's part reason for such heated debate. I dont see topic threads about the Terrorism report, even though its a lot more relevant.

I don't really care if Mike is fat, the title of the book is an obvious jab at his book "Stupid White Men", intended to be comical. I like how you claim that conservatives are the ones who don't use facts to base their arguments and liberals are. In truth it is the exact opposite.

You should do what I do, read books from both sides of the political spectrum and then decide which side is more factual and/or correct on an issue.

Actually, I do. For the longest time I *was* a conservative. I have read a great deal of the literature, and understand the economics, and the policy, both domestic and global of the conservative mindset.

But after a series of life awakening events, I realized personally the horror tied to all of our innocent policy decisions here in the states.

and to claim that conservatives won't believe a fat person telling them their house is on fire is simply asinine. Go up to somebody and tell them the sky is blue, they won't disagree no matter how fat you happen to be.

You'd be suprised at how many threads I have seen that directly link Michael Moore's being fat to his credibility. Even on Fox news the inference was made "if he's that fat, he cant be suffering like the people he supposedly stands for... obviously his supporters need to look at him before they believe a word he says..."

Hey Enforcer, from the looks of your pic, you're a big fat n00b white kid!

At 6/30/04 07:25 PM, PWeN wrote: Hey Enforcer, from the looks of your pic, you're a big fat n00b white kid!

No matter how I look my opinion still stands. Thats my point.

At 6/29/04 04:57 PM, The_Enforcer wrote:
From your post it is obvious that you are 16 and don't know jack shit

At a guess, you wrote it. So there's another reason this alleged book won't be topping the NY Times Bestseller list...

At 7/1/04 10:23 AM, D2KVirus wrote:

At 6/29/04 04:57 PM, The_Enforcer wrote:
From your post it is obvious that you are 16 and don't know jack shit

At a guess, you wrote it. So there's another reason this alleged book won't be topping the NY Times Bestseller list...

it probably will be on the best seller list. Wait and see I believe it comes out in July.

Now I can't say for sure, but I seriously doubt this book is any good. First off, its simply a mock of Stupid White men. Is it only a rebuttal to it? I don't know, but what I can tell you is the guy dosen't have much to go with.

Honestly, a whole book simply to piss on Micheal Moore. Its gonna have alot of filler, that I can guarantee.

At 6/30/04 02:26 PM, The_Enforcer wrote: I don't really care if Mike is fat, the title of the book is an obvious jab at his book "Stupid White Men", intended to be comical. I like how you claim that conservatives are the ones who don't use facts to base their arguments and liberals are.

you actually had me interested until...

In truth it is the exact opposite.

partisan politics strikes again![/seeevilgovernmentagentspost]

i would love to see, just for one day a year, everyone on this BBS stop making assumptions about other people and perpetuating stereoypes and prejudices about those who occupy other areas of the political spectrum.

It's hilarious to me that when the Republicans can't win an arguement they do the 12 year old thing and try to make fun of the opposition. You people are trash, it's not about Micheal Moore, and no matter how much you try to make it about him it just gives his word more strength.
For example, Rush Limbaugh lies 24/7 nonstop, but there isn't an entire hate group out to get him by writing books, dominating the news media, and no, Air America is not anti-Rush, it's anti-Lies.
People are attacking Moore because what he is showing in Fahrenheit is true and so devastating that to remain a Bush supporter you either have to ignore all the facts, paint it up as a conspiracy, and attack Moore's integrity.

So far most of you people have gotten along doing that, but speak no evil hear no evil see no evil only goes so far before we are massively in trouble.

Realize that Bush is about money, greed, and power and you may understand his ties with the Saudi Arabia that bore Osama Bin Laden, the funding for the 9/11 attacks and 15 of the 19 hijackers... Bush is going down for his crimes and it'll be easier for you all to understand what a miserable failure he is now before you go down with the burning ship.

Of course F 911 is baised, if you know the facts the only way you can tell them is baised because they stack up to the most appalling presidency in the past 100 years. With Reagan's funeral I think the Republican Party is looking back to what a good president looks like and wishing they weren't in the mess they are now with GW.

Go ahead and quote me you tools, you believe anything and everything the rich people are telling you, so go ahead and fight for THEIR cause, it only destroys your credibility.

At 7/1/04 02:41 PM, PruneTracy wrote: Realize that Bush is about money, greed, and power

You are such a tool.

At 7/1/04 02:41 PM, PruneTracy wrote: For example, Rush Limbaugh lies 24/7 nonstop, but there isn't an entire hate group out to get him by writing books, dominating the news media, and no, Air America is not anti-Rush, it's anti-Lies.

A Book by Al Franken

Go ahead and quote you? okay! Game, set, match.

Game set match, what are you a child? Yeah it's a book title, all you've won is a laugh on my part.

The book title is written by Al Franken.... a COMEDIAN.

As far as you guys go, I'm defending the envirnment, the poor, the country and yes YOU.

Your defending Bush and his buddies, do some research on Harken Oil, Saudi Arabia, look at the oil business men that he named as the leaders of Afghanistan and the Carlyle Group and Haliburton.... You are defending the rich, corrupt, and those who DON'T care about our nation.... How about Bush cutting counter-terrorism funds pre-9/11 and ignoring the memo entitled "Bin Laden determined to attack within the US" in which it mentioned the use of commercial planes?

You've been brainwashed by the media while I've been reading congressional records, contacting by congressmen and senators, and talking politics with college professors. Believe me when I say I know more than you about this, because I do. I wish you'd just get off of the defensive for these guys for one minute.

If you spent half the time researching Bush that you did defending him you'd stop the latter.

I'm just a guy who researches this stuff, and you're a blind puppet.

Who's the tool?

At 7/1/04 03:24 PM, PruneTracy wrote: Game set match, what are you a child? Yeah it's a book title, all you've won is a laugh on my part.

The book title is written by Al Franken.... a COMEDIAN.


I'm just a guy who researches this stuff, and you're a blind puppet.

Who's the tool?

The comedian is also a serious political comentator. One of the few comedians who spends his spare time reaseaching fact for his comedy and one of the few to put out a serious book because he takes it seriously. Oh yea, you do good reasearch alright!

At 7/1/04 03:24 PM, PruneTracy wrote:
The book title is written by Al Franken.... a COMEDIAN.

Either you know nothing, or you insulting skills are weak.

Believe me when I say I know more than you about this, because I do. I wish you'd just get off of the defensive for these guys for one minute.

Please demonstrate your knowledge. I've read your post, and it said nothing at all except how dumb everybody is except you. Your'e not showing your intelligence.

Oh Gem, I don't remember saying the book wasn't a serious political commentary, I'm just saying when a comedian writes a book, it tends to be in a more satirical light, a title as such is just a joke to grab attention.
Poor little white boy, has to make inferences where an actual arguement can't hold up. Good job Gem, you're a genious.

At 7/1/04 03:24 PM, PruneTracy wrote: Who's the tool?

you.

At 7/1/04 03:24 PM, PruneTracy wrote: Game set match, what are you a child? Yeah it's a book title, all you've won is a laugh on my part.

The book title is written by Al Franken.... a COMEDIAN.

And your point was? All I see is some one acting like a child.

Alright now children, are we happy with our sterotypes and blind faith in books, movies, and only the political figures who say things that are dubious, yet you believe every word coming out of their mouth? Are we happy having sterotyped every person who doesn't like Moore as a Republican, therefore a Conservative, therefore a Bush supporter?

I just want to find something to kill, at the sheer ignorance, arrogance, blind faith and idiocy being displayed here.

Exactly!

It's hard to choose which side to believe...
Moore is a big fat stupid white guy...but he does make good points,,,
The author of the book Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man on the other hand...is completely against Moore...so he's probably just an over patriotic lunatic...plenty of em. And frankly...I don't see why any of you care...I'm bored...and hungry...so I'm gonna turn on some Megadeth and cook some food.
LATER

wasn't the author of that book one of Moore's publishers or something? I forgot what he did exactly, but i know he used to work for/with Moore

At 6/30/04 01:31 PM, THE_HULKSTER wrote: While Micheal Moore is a stupid, fat dickhead, I wouldn't write a book about him, and if I did, it wouldn't have such a stupid title.

damn, where is that noob responce form when you need it?

At 7/1/04 01:02 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote:
Honestly, a whole book simply to piss on Micheal Moore. Its gonna have alot of filler, that I can guarantee.

Just like the lamest documentary in some time (if you can call it a documentary), Michael Moore Hates America. Honestly, we need to start muzzling the American Fundamentalists, they're infecting our cinema...sorry, video stores - bottom shelf.

At 6/30/04 02:26 PM, The_Enforcer wrote:

At 6/30/04 11:58 AM, antiklaus wrote:

You should do what I do, read books from both sides of the political spectrum and then decide which side is more factual and/or correct on an issue.

The essense of being conservative right here, summed up with "you should do what I do." Nobody should do what you do, everyone should do what they do, on their own. Enforcer has already done what you've done, but it just so happens the material he read was just people bashing Moore senselessly.

simply asinine

I found the use of those two words funny ; )

At 7/2/04 11:19 AM, D2KVirus wrote:
Just like the lamest documentary in some time (if you can call it a documentary), Michael Moore Hates America. Honestly, we need to start muzzling the American Fundamentalists, they're infecting our cinema...sorry, video stores - bottom shelf.

What? Did you ever read the Constitution? I'm pretty sure it clearly says right at the beginning of the Bill of Rights that everyone is entitled to free speech. Everyone . It doesn't matter if you disagree with what someone is saying, they still have the right to say it. And infecting our cinema? Thats completely ridiculous, opinions aren't dangerous, its peoples unwillingness to hear them that causes danger.

At 7/2/04 11:52 AM, Evark wrote:

What? Did you ever read the Constitution? I'm pretty sure it clearly says right at the beginning of the Bill of Rights that everyone is entitled to free speech. Everyone . It doesn't matter if you disagree with what someone is saying, they still have the right to say it. And infecting our cinema? Thats completely ridiculous, opinions aren't dangerous, its peoples unwillingness to hear them that causes danger.

And, of course, stoking them to make a fast buck isn't remotely dangerous, let alone cynical. By the way, in England, we don't have to have freedom of speech legislated - it's a given.

At 6/29/04 04:29 PM, The_Enforcer wrote: I bet this book is going to be great

I KNOW it will be. ;-)

I'm going to buy it when it comes out.

Me too!

At 7/2/04 11:52 AM, Evark wrote:

At 7/2/04 11:19 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Did you ever read the Constitution? I'm pretty sure it clearly says right at the beginning of the Bill of Rights that everyone is entitled to free speech. Everyone . It doesn't matter if you disagree with what someone is saying, they still have the right to say it. And infecting our cinema? Thats completely ridiculous, opinions aren't dangerous, its peoples unwillingness to hear them that causes danger.

Yes I have, in fact I have a pocket constitution. It is apprent you haven't read it or in the very least really know. "right at the beginning" is the preamble. then there are a few articles, and THEN there is the bill of rights.

a pocket constitution costs $1. I suggest you pick one up.

At 7/2/04 12:42 PM, The_Enforcer wrote: a pocket constitution costs $1. I suggest you pick one up.

a standard Weight Watchers plan starts at $44.95 a month. I suggest you start one.

At 7/2/04 12:42 PM, The_Enforcer wrote:

At 7/2/04 11:52 AM, Evark wrote:

At 7/2/04 11:19 AM, D2KVirus wrote: right at the beginning of the Bill of Rights

"right at the beginning" is the preamble. then there are a few articles, and THEN there is the bill of rights.

a pocket constitution costs $1. I suggest you pick one up.

ah, well, if you had read my post, you would have read that I said "right at the beginning of the Bill of Rights." As in, the first amendment. Not the preamble. There is no preamble to the Bill of Rights. And why would I bother picking up a small version when I've already printed out the entire thing (in large, readable text) for the class I recently completed essentially dedicated to studying the constitution and government?

Don't try to catch me on technicalities in wording, it simply shows your eagerness to completely miss my point as well as ignore what I've written.

At 7/2/04 11:54 AM, D2KVirus wrote:
And, of course, stoking them to make a fast buck isn't remotely dangerous, let alone cynical. By the way, in England, we don't have to have freedom of speech legislated - it's a given.

Uh... The Constitution isn't legislation, its our entire government. The Constitution cannot be repealed as legislation can. It is also a 'given,' although we would put it closer to a 'right' instead of something arbitrarily handed out. I don't know anything (read: much) about how the English system of government works, so I won't argue that any further.