Ban Ferenheit 9/11

[deepthrought]

Call me ignorant if you will but i for one will not EVER see ferenheit 9/11 because all Moore is interested in is furthering his career and not telling the truth. I am a conservative so you might think of course i will not see it but i beg all others who are disgusted not to see the movie. If you want to go just to see what its like or simply to yell at the screen, dont!!!

If you goto the movie you are just putting more money in his socialist pocket, makeing him believe that his films are good and that he should continue to bend the truth to hiw own whims, please all stand with me and ban 9/11.

[RedSkunk]

The only reason I'm going to see it in a theater, is to pay for that socialist's new Porsche.

[Wraith]

Funny, then doesn't O'Reilly have his show just to put money in his pocket too?

[hyper-goat]

Hmm... I dunno, what I'm hearing is you saying that your right. So Michael Moore is telling lies? These "lies" hes telling.. They also fall under the catagory of an opinion. If your feeling creative, you make a movie contradicting Farenheit 9/11.

[Tael-Thi]

At 6/29/04 12:46 AM, _Wraith_ wrote: Funny, then doesn't O'Reilly have his show just to put money in his pocket too?

*ZING* 2 points

[Dagodevas]

I believe people should listen to what Michael Moore has to say. However, if they're going to listen to what he has to say, than they should take the time to also listen to what people like Michael Wilson has to say. People shouldn't just listen to only the people who agree with them.

[Wraith]

At 6/29/04 12:51 AM, Tael-Thi wrote: *ZING* 2 points

And they say this generation is going to the dogs...

Sup Dagodevas, where ya been?

[Dagodevas]

At 6/29/04 01:01 AM, _Wraith_ wrote: Sup Dagodevas, where ya been?

College, work, self-loathing, the usual. :P

[Wraith]

At 6/29/04 01:14 AM, Dagodevas wrote: College, work, self-loathing, the usual. :P

Yea, might get a job myself, could use the cash. As you can see, the board is slightly < or = to the last time you were here. More conservatives now, but we're holding our own.

[Dagodevas]

At 6/29/04 01:16 AM, _Wraith_ wrote: Yea, might get a job myself, could use the cash. As you can see, the board is slightly < or = to the last time you were here. More conservatives now, but we're holding our own.

Meh, conservatives, liberals. I got tired of playing the bi-partisan politics game a long time ago.

Nader in '04 :P

Yeah, a job's nice. I recently purchased a new laptop with my job money (my other laptop's busted you see). It's got a sweet AMD 64 3200+ and a Radeon 9600. Runs "Far Cry" like a dream. Makes working for minimum wage for the past four months worth while.

[Wraith]

At 6/29/04 01:23 AM, Dagodevas wrote: Nader in '04 :P

Jesse Ventura in '08.

Yeah, a job's nice. I recently purchased a new laptop with my job money (my other laptop's busted you see). It's got a sweet AMD 64 3200+ and a Radeon 9600. Runs "Far Cry" like a dream. Makes working for minimum wage for the past four months worth while.

I need a bass, a new amp, and I need to re-work my guitar. If I can make 800-1000 before summer's over, I'll be one happy little man.

[GooieGreen]

At 6/29/04 01:39 AM, _Wraith_ wrote:

At 6/29/04 01:23 AM, Dagodevas wrote: Nader in '04 :P

Jesse Ventura in '08.

Nixon in '12.

Yeah, that's right, ban the movie. Go ahead, censor the people more. If they don't want to see it, they won't see it.

[HappyBull]

I'm not seeing that movie either!
It disgusts me that there are such unpatriotic movies!

[GooieGreen]

At 6/29/04 01:49 AM, Alpha6 wrote: I'm not seeing that movie either!
It disgusts me that there are such unpatriotic movies!

yeah, it's "unpatriotic" to have an opinion that differs from your government. Lets go make a nation that has freedoms as such as its base! We shall call it...The United States of America... or Zekeland... I like Zekeland, personally.

[Dagodevas]

At 6/29/04 01:39 AM, _Wraith_ wrote: I need a bass, a new amp, and I need to re-work my guitar. If I can make 800-1000 before summer's over, I'll be one happy little man.

Sounds probable. I work at a local movie theatre about 2-4 days out of the week and I make roughly $150-$200 every two weeks. Unfortunately, I doubt I'll have this job come Fall. I'll have to start an intership about that time (if I want my Associates degree that is) and I can't juggle it and work.

[Wraith]

At 6/29/04 01:56 AM, Dagodevas wrote: Sounds probable. I work at a local movie theatre about 2-4 days out of the week and I make roughly $150-$200 every two weeks. Unfortunately, I doubt I'll have this job come Fall. I'll have to start an intership about that time (if I want my Associates degree that is) and I can't juggle it and work.

Sucks. It's usually what happens, that's why they call them summer jobs. I might be working at a local tanning salon. Run the register, clean the tanning beds, and that's about it. Free tanning sessions are a perk, and getting to talk to all the girls coming in is a definite plus. That is, if the age minimum doesn't get in my way.

[clichealias]

How can you make such claims without even seeing the movie? This is false and that is false you say, but you just speak of merely an assumption...

You can disagree all you want(but I say at least you watch it before you say something is a lie), but he has the right to his opinion as well.

[fli]

At 6/29/04 12:22 AM, deepthrought wrote: Call me ignorant if you will but i for one will not EVER see ferenheit 9/11 because all Moore is interested in is furthering his career and not telling the truth. I am a conservative so you might think of course i will not see it but i beg all others who are disgusted not to see the movie. If you want to go just to see what its like or simply to yell at the screen, dont!!!

If you goto the movie you are just putting more money in his socialist pocket, makeing him believe that his films are good and that he should continue to bend the truth to hiw own whims, please all stand with me and ban 9/11.

How could you say that he's lieing when you haven't seen the movie and done some research? Why don't you play Devil's Advocate and see the movie and actually do some research and come up with some rebutals.

I for one haven't seen material that was not the truth, although Moore has presented it to obviously oppose Bush's re-election.

[fli]

At 6/29/04 01:49 AM, Alpha6 wrote: I'm not seeing that movie either!
It disgusts me that there are such unpatriotic movies!

I've seen a few quotes that you may like to read. But the first one is important.

Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiently or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else. Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican.

There is only one quality worse than hardness of heart and that is softness of head. Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican.

To divide along the lines of section or caste or creed is un-American. Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican.

All privileges based on wealth, and all emnity to honest men merely because they are wealthy, are un-American. Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican.

[JackPhantasm]

Moore is not completely correct. He's far less bullshit than the people he's bad mouthing though.

[RedSkunk]

At 6/29/04 01:54 AM, Gooie wrote: or Zekeland... I like Zekeland, personally.

hmm.. It's catchy, isn't it?

[fli]

At 6/29/04 03:02 AM, JackFulpisJamesSowka wrote: Moore is not completely correct. He's far less bullshit than the people he's bad mouthing though.

Bad mouthing is very correct! Man, he ripped through Bush like pirranah through a hamburger...

But he does presents lots of well documented facts.

[D2Kvirus]

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Wow - in order to get people to open your crap, you have to use subject headers like that. Says a lot for American attitudes, doesn't it? Thing is, how many people will be hoping that it's true? Where's that IMDB review link I posted?

[Ravens-Grin]

Hey, at least you opened it and read it

[Spoony-McSpoon]

This year has been one huge battle of propaganda. Both the democrates and republicians are guilty of it. I don't trust any news I've seen rescently on Kerry or Bush because there's few non-biast reports on them.
How do you now what you read/watch is true?
Fahrenheit 9/11 is going to be biast against Bush (since that's the point) but it's based on older news reports which were reported way before the election talk. I haven't seen it myself, but that gives it a good chance of showing factual data as well as some which may not be.

[Shangui]

Lies ? Maybe, but not entirely, that's for sure. I'll believe Michael Moore before Bush anytime. 9/11 hides a very nasty secret, but it will never be revealed to you, people of America.

As for patriotism, is it really that important ? You know, I believe it is much more important to be happy in life than to be patriotic. Anyway, that term is way overused, I've seen over 20 definitions of that term, and all of them are suited to justify one man's position.

I go by this standard: Love yourself before your country. I might also add, get all the information you can and filter it AFTER.

[Proteas]

At 6/29/04 12:22 AM, deepthrought wrote: please all stand with me and ban 9/11.

Sounds more to me like your scared of someone else's opinions. Especially when that opinion goes against your own. Why else then would you "beg" everyone here not to go see it?

At 6/29/04 12:05 PM, Shangui wrote: 9/11 hides a very nasty secret, but it will never be revealed to you, people of America.

And what truth might that be, oh wise one from the North?

[Shangui]

Alright, I think I might have said things the wrong way, so here I go again:

That very nasty secret will never be reveiled to us, people of the world that are not in direct link with the people who organized that whole thing.

Happy now ? I said americans because you are the ones who would really benefit from the truth. As for the words of "wise man from the north" I tell you that their are as many possibilities as you can imagine, but I'm sure the real truth as not been told yet on TV.

Have a nice day and be happy.

[ReiperX]

At 6/29/04 12:22 AM, deepthrought wrote: Call me ignorant if you will but i for one will not EVER see ferenheit 9/11 because all Moore is interested in is furthering his career and not telling the truth.

I havn't seen the movie, so am not going to call you ignorant yet. But from what I hear from some people that have seen it is that its a damn good documentary, although it does go beyond fact on a few things and go blatently anti Bush which is unfortunate. But if I see it I'll post my own opinions of it. But there is also a lot of facts behind the movie as well, so some of it is factual, some of it is pure propoganda (again, this is from what I have heard from others, have yet to see it myself). But yeah, hes a film producer its his job to further is career. Welcome to capatilism.

I am a conservative so you might think of course i will not see it but i beg all others who are disgusted not to see the movie. If you want to go just to see what its like or simply to yell at the screen, dont!!!

Why wouldn't a conservative want to see the movie. By seeing the movie you actually have some idea what someone is talking about if it comes up in a conversation, and you can give your rebuttal to the remarks made defending your views on it, but if you dont' see it for your reason all you can say it its propogands, its lies I tell you lies, and have no idea what they are talking about.

If you goto the movie you are just putting more money in his socialist pocket, makeing him believe that his films are good and that he should continue to bend the truth to hiw own whims, please all stand with me and ban 9/11.

Umm you know you can't really do much to ban the movie, you can boycott it but its not going to make a difference, has already made a ton of money.

[ReddSky]

It was apparently the #1 in the box office, blowing away the legitimate movies and beat Bowling For Columbine as the highest profiting documentary.

Its going to hit other countries (mine) soon and Im getting alot of people to see it if I can convince them not to see riddick instead.

9/11 is still surrounded with mystery (investigators were not allowed to search the rubble, video footage shows bombs planted in the towers, all isreali workers were warned in advanced, making things really complicated). The governments story cannot be completley trusted.

You shouldent really be pressuring people to not see it. You cant force people to think your ways, you cant stop them from watching a documentary, your not a dictator, and you or people who think like you are not nessicarily the majority.

Socialists dont try to get rich, they donate it to those in need, or else they become what they are fighting. Fascism is the opposite.