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At 7/13/05 02:07 AM, ljcoffee wrote: Sorry if this has already been posted in this thread but...

My Absolut favorite Bush video

the one where he flips off the camera is better

i bet this has been posted but
is it true that he was/is a cokehead

At 7/13/05 01:22 AM, Jimsween wrote:

At 7/11/05 11:33 PM, bcdemon wrote: Not enough time huh? You don't think Chicago has enough city workers to go around? If not, then why not, not enough funding?

You have to close down the roads.

Umm no you don't. It takes about 15 min to fill a road crack with cold patch and some tar, ever done it before? I have. Busy stuff like highways and main roads get done at night.

ROFL. Fort Francis is not a suburb, Fort Francis is its own city. And gee, you talk about backwoods towns like T-Bay surroundings, there are a thousand towns just like it in the USA, hell I went through a shitload of them myself from Detroit to Winnipeg. And I will agree, Thunder Bay is a dirty town, but so are countless US cities the same size as T-Bay.

Again, thats why I didn't specifically say suburb, I noted that they weren't exactly suburbs. They aren't rural either, and I wouldn't call them urban at that. They resemble that of something between a suburb and a rural area.

I says pardon? I specifically asked you "which suburbs have you been too" that followed your description, and you say Fort Francis, areas around T-Bay, and then you threw in basically anything north of Toronto. Backpedal a little faster why don't you.

Yes I already said that some US towns and cities are like that too, but the difference is that only some of the US ones are like that, in Canada you have everything outside of Urban Canada like that.

No it isn't, you're ignorant. I have done way more travelling in this country than you will ever do, I know, you don't.

Ahh, you mean like Aurora, nah thats not like you mentioned. King City maybe, nope, they have $500,000 homes there. Umm, go much more north than that are you are in "Cottage Country", a million lakes to choose from, beautiful area. Unless your looking for a suburb...

Ahem, all of those are Suburbs of Ontario or Toronto I believe. That would just be enforcing my point.

ROFL, a suburb of a province? LMAO idiot. Go farther north then, Perry Sound (again, its own city, not a suburb), again, nothing like you described. Give up kid. I wonder if you even know what a suburb is?

You compare "nearly all" suburbs in Canada to the city of Fort Francis Ontario....
And what are most farm and mining communities in the USA like? They all driving Benz to the nickel mines? Or driving a Cadilac Escalade down to the farmers market to sell thier wares? I retract calling you a liar, you're just an idiot kid.

Have you ever been to America, I wonder?

On many occasions. Last visit, May 2000, drove from Detroit, through Chicago, and up to Winnipeg. Oh and I lived there (Florida) for a bit. Point?

I happen to live in a Rural farming community. And no you don't see Candilac Escalades, but you see plenty of new cars.

Yay you. Hey, I live in a town of about 30,000 (does that qualify?) and there are tons of new cars all over the place.

At 7/13/05 01:14 AM, Brave_Yankee wrote:

At 7/12/05 11:58 PM, BandL_Entertainments wrote: bush sux no matter what everybody says kerry should have one, that guy has a shotgun man , i want him protecting me not bush, the guy barely survived a pretsel i dont want him in office, lets give him a gun and send him to iraq and see what he does.

Dude...Bush is a Texas Ranger. He has a gun rack in every single room of his house. Besides, do you really want a guy who can't even catch a football running the White House?

Right, because we should ignore merrit and just elect on the passes of can they catch a football. Jerry Rice '08. What the hell does a football have to do with running an administration. I pray to god Bush isn't sitting around the war-room
"Okay Condi, if you catch this Hail Marry, we continue peace talks with Korea"
I do support the having guns thing though. However, so did Kerry

Hey Jim, did you forget, or just quit?

I was watching CNN yesterday and I couldn't believe two of the things I saw.

1) The played audio of bush saying that he would fire however leaked the CIA information, if it came to light. But then it went to a press confrence of where Bush was praising Rove. The man that was the leak, and when questioned by this, "Next Question".

2)Bush said that he is looking beyond the bench for O'conner's replacement. That's right kiddies, Bush is looking to nominate a supreme court justice that has never been a judge!

At 7/13/05 01:14 AM, Brave_Yankee wrote: Dude...Bush is a Texas Ranger. He has a gun rack in every single room of his house. Besides, do you really want a guy who can't even catch a football running the White House?

Dude, Bush is a Conneticutian. He comes from a family of power and money. Besides, do you really want a guy who falls off a machine that's supposed to be impossible to fall off of running the White House?

At 7/13/05 08:50 AM, bcdemon wrote: Umm no you don't. It takes about 15 min to fill a road crack with cold patch and some tar, ever done it before? I have. Busy stuff like highways and main roads get done at night.

So are you saying Chicago has cracked roads that aren't filled? Because thats just one aspect of crappy roads.

I says pardon? I specifically asked you "which suburbs have you been too" that followed your description, and you say Fort Francis, areas around T-Bay, and then you threw in basically anything north of Toronto. Backpedal a little faster why don't you.

Your taking it completely out of context. You know exactly what I mean because I clearly said it in the second paragraph.

No it isn't, you're ignorant. I have done way more travelling in this country than you will ever do, I know, you don't.

Alright sure, I guess it just so happens that every part of Canada I've been to has been crappy. And the same for my friends too.

ROFL, a suburb of a province? LMAO idiot. Go farther north then, Perry Sound (again, its own city, not a suburb), again, nothing like you described. Give up kid. I wonder if you even know what a suburb is?

Real mature. I've said at least twice before that I didn't mean exactly suburb. If you took the time to read you would have known.

On many occasions. Last visit, May 2000, drove from Detroit, through Chicago, and up to Winnipeg. Oh and I lived there (Florida) for a bit. Point?

And your telling me that you don't see shiny new cars.

Yay you. Hey, I live in a town of about 30,000 (does that qualify?) and there are tons of new cars all over the place.

Yet another thing I'm just going to have to take your word for.

I think Jacques Chirac is a btter president than BUsh. While both are conservative (although Chirac is more moderate) there are some stark contrasts to go with their similarities. For one Chirac served his country on the front lines (Im not gonna argue whetehr Bush missed his dental appointment or not, but Bush did not serve on the front lines). and was even wounded. He had many family connections yet chose to serve on the front lines aways. He is a true hero and a very ambitious man, wanting to earn his way ot the top.

SOme similar points, both are tough on terrorism and crime. Both are conservative economists and both have been heavily involved with politics and civil service during their adult lives.

On this suburb thing, they can swing either way. Anacaster, a suburb of Hamilton ON, pop approx 25 000 is stinking rich. Dundas is another suburb of Hamilton and not so rich, while say Stoney Creek is in the middle. A suburb, just like any other city or town can go either way. Kanata ON, suburb of Ottawa is filthy rich too.

At 7/14/05 06:05 PM, Jimsween wrote: So are you saying Chicago has cracked roads that aren't filled? Because thats just one aspect of crappy roads.

Yes I am saying that. You complain that our rural/suburban areas have cracked roads, well so does Chicago, New York, LA, Pheonix and every other fucking city/town/area in USA with a paved road. Does that mean that they get shit funding and the people are poor? No.

Your taking it completely out of context. You know exactly what I mean because I clearly said it in the second paragraph.

Ahh yes, "in Canada you have everything outside of Urban Canada like that." , basically, everything outside of a city then. Which would be a blatent lie.

Alright sure, I guess it just so happens that every part of Canada I've been to has been crappy. And the same for my friends too.

Ok fine, I can live with that, "crappy" is your and your friends opinions. But lets get back to the cracked roads (actually I destroyed this aspect above), burnt out streetlights, and 10-20 year old cars.

Real mature. I've said at least twice before that I didn't mean exactly suburb. If you took the time to read you would have known.

Actually, I have been reading Jim:

At 7/10/05 02:57 AM, Jimsween wrote:

My point was not that Canada has some bad Suburbs though, my point was that nearly all of them are.

At 7/10/05 09:10 PM, Jimsween wrote: Yeah I guess, but I already explained that while there are many poor American suburbs, nearly all Canadian suburbs are poor.

At 7/10/05 11:47 PM, Jimsween wrote: I don't know, all I know is that I've been to canada many times and seen many different areas and I always thought the suburbs looked really crappy no matter where I was.

3 posts you destinctly said the word "suburb", right?

And your telling me that you don't see shiny new cars.

I never said that at all. What I said was during that trip I went through many little shithole towns in USA, just like the ones you are talking about in north/western Ontario.

Yet another thing I'm just going to have to take your word for.

Hmm, screwed up on the population, were closer to 50,000 here in Vernon. And guess what, we have Canadas oldest Ford dealership right here, Watkin Motors, 1915. (Don't take my word for it, google it)

At 7/14/05 10:45 PM, bcdemon wrote: Yes I am saying that. You complain that our rural/suburban areas have cracked roads, well so does Chicago, New York, LA, Pheonix and every other fucking city/town/area in USA with a paved road. Does that mean that they get shit funding and the people are poor? No.

I've not seen horribly cracked roads in any of the cities I've been to, they are cracked, but they are mostly all filled in.

And as a matter of fact, it would in fact mean they get shit funding and the people are poor, you yourself just noted its simple to fill in cracks.

Ahh yes, "in Canada you have everything outside of Urban Canada like that." , basically, everything outside of a city then. Which would be a blatent lie.

A city is not neccesarily Urban. Your taking the definitions completely out of context, using your logic, something can be Urban, Suburban, and Rural at the same time, and still have a very low population density.

Ok fine, I can live with that, "crappy" is your and your friends opinions. But lets get back to the cracked roads (actually I destroyed this aspect above), burnt out streetlights, and 10-20 year old cars.

Wow, real smooth. Your just going to try and debate the definition of crappy instead. Nevermind the fact that for it to be considered crappy it has to be below standard. I guess that doesn't really apply in this case though, because it's an argument, and you much rather prefer just spouting ad hominem attacks.

3 posts you destinctly said the word "suburb", right?

And what about where I specifically noted that when I use the word Subrub I didn't mean the literal definition of suburb? Hmm?

Pull your head out of your ass, your not making a point, your just making yourself look stupid.

I never said that at all. What I said was during that trip I went through many little shithole towns in USA, just like the ones you are talking about in north/western Ontario.

'And what are most farm and mining communities in the USA like? They all driving Benz to the nickel mines? Or driving a Cadilac Escalade down to the farmers market to sell thier wares?'

That would directly imply you were talking about cars.

And I'll ignore the irony that only after several posts do you decide to say that you've been all over America and its crappy too.

Hmm, screwed up on the population, were closer to 50,000 here in Vernon. And guess what, we have Canadas oldest Ford dealership right here, Watkin Motors, 1915. (Don't take my word for it, google it)

Google what? I've yet to see any 'facts' stated by you that could be discovered by googling.

At 7/14/05 11:52 PM, Jimsween wrote: I've not seen horribly cracked roads in any of the cities I've been to, they are cracked, but they are mostly all filled in.

And as a matter of fact, it would in fact mean they get shit funding and the people are poor, you yourself just noted its simple to fill in cracks.

Ahh, so any city/town/suburb or any other area with a cracked road would imply crap funding and poor people? LOL

A city is not neccesarily Urban. Your taking the definitions completely out of context, using your logic, something can be Urban, Suburban, and Rural at the same time, and still have a very low population density.

Huh? My Logic? You're the one saying everything outside of urban (and I am not taking it out of context, I am using the actual definition of the word) areas are like this, which is just not true, not in the least.

Wow, real smooth. Your just going to try and debate the definition of crappy instead. Nevermind the fact that for it to be considered crappy it has to be below standard. I guess that doesn't really apply in this case though, because it's an argument, and you much rather prefer just spouting ad hominem attacks.

No I am not. Try understanding what you read, k? I explicitly said "I CAN LIVE WITH THAT", that being you and your friends opinions. "Crappy" is your opinion, it isn't a definitive standard. Do you have something concrete to back up your claim, or just your opinion?

Pull your head out of your ass, your not making a point, your just making yourself look stupid.

Oh but I have made my point, many times, your lieing, thats my point.

Google what? I've yet to see any 'facts' stated by you that could be discovered by googling.

And I have yet to see any facts from you to back up your claim that "nearly all Canadian" sub-suburbs/rural/urban or whatever areas your talking about have cracked roads, burnt out streetlights and no new cars. I believe you're just making shit up again.

At 7/15/05 08:46 AM, bcdemon wrote: Ahh, so any city/town/suburb or any other area with a cracked road would imply crap funding and poor people? LOL

Yes. You yourself admitted it was a fast process. So the only obstacle is funding. You can laugh all you want that doesnt change the fact that you are wrong.

Huh? My Logic? You're the one saying everything outside of urban (and I am not taking it out of context, I am using the actual definition of the word) areas are like this, which is just not true, not in the least.

Wow, learn to read. 'Your taking the definitions completely out of context' and your response is 'and I am not taking it out of context, I am using the actual definition of the word'. Hey genius, think my use of the word definition somehow meant I wasn't talking about the definition? I clearly said what I mean by suburb, several times, the fact that you wont debate my argument and instead debate my use of the word suburb is pathetic.

No I am not. Try understanding what you read, k? I explicitly said "I CAN LIVE WITH THAT", that being you and your friends opinions. "Crappy" is your opinion, it isn't a definitive standard. Do you have something concrete to back up your claim, or just your opinion?

Crappy is an opinion, that doesn't matter though. For something to be considered crappy by opinion, one has to consider it below standard, and the standard they would have to compare it to would be that of america. It's not like the words long or short, crappy specifically notates at the very least below average.

Oh but I have made my point, many times, your lieing, thats my point.

Amazing, because it seemed up until now that your point was that I use the word suburb wrong. But I should have expected this, since I had just questioned the validity of your claims, you in turn respond in kind. What made me think you could come up with something on your own.

And I have yet to see any facts from you to back up your claim that "nearly all Canadian" sub-suburbs/rural/urban or whatever areas your talking about have cracked roads, burnt out streetlights and no new cars. I believe you're just making shit up again.

Nice rant there, but that still doesn't explain why you told me to use google when nothing you have said can be googled. It's nice to see your response to valid questions about your argument is to claim that I make everything up.

At 7/15/05 05:25 PM, Jimsween wrote:

At 7/15/05 08:46 AM, bcdemon wrote: Ahh, so any city/town/suburb or any other area with a cracked road would imply crap funding and poor people? LOL

Yes. You yourself admitted it was a fast process. So the only obstacle is funding. You can laugh all you want that doesnt change the fact that you are wrong.

Again, ignorance is your friend, you seem to rely on it heavily. Yes the process of filling a crack in the road or even a pothole for that matter is quite quick. A city like chicago with all its public works people could fill every pothole and crack in the city in about a week or two. Now, do you know when they decide to fill potholes and cracks? 1. When someone in the community reports it. Same thing goes for streetlights while I'm at it, they very rarely get fixed unless it's reported by the public. And 2. When the pothole or crack is just to big to ignore. So why don't they get everyone to fill potholes and cracks till it's done? Job security.

I am not about to argue what you meant when you said the word suburb, nor am I going to argue your definition of crappy.

Nice rant there, but that still doesn't explain why you told me to use google when nothing you have said can be googled. It's nice to see your response to valid questions about your argument is to claim that I make everything up.

LOL, my only arguement is that you are lieing when you said "nearly all Canadian suburbs" were poorly funded with cracked roads, burnt out streetlights and everyone owns cars 10-20 yrs old. And considering you have no proof to back that up but your buddies opinion, and considering I have lived in these types of towns you speak of, I still call you a liar. Now, be branded as such, or prove your case.

At 7/15/05 06:26 PM, bcdemon wrote: Again, ignorance is your friend, you seem to rely on it heavily. Yes the process of filling a crack in the road or even a pothole for that matter is quite quick. A city like chicago with all its public works people could fill every pothole and crack in the city in about a week or two. Now, do you know when they decide to fill potholes and cracks? 1. When someone in the community reports it. Same thing goes for streetlights while I'm at it, they very rarely get fixed unless it's reported by the public. And 2. When the pothole or crack is just to big to ignore. So why don't they get everyone to fill potholes and cracks till it's done? Job security.

Hah, nice posthumous argument. Funny that you now decide to present it, after already claiming you had proved me wrong.

I have to wonder where your getting this, because I find it very ahrd to believe every crack in every highway has been reported. In fact, the fact that the highway just by my house has its cracks filled at nearly the same times every year would disprove your arugment completely.

And at that... it would totally unjustify the existance of the Automated Crack Sealing Machine (ACSM). Wierd that they would spend millions on these only to not use them.

I am not about to argue what you meant when you said the word suburb, nor am I going to argue your definition of crappy.

Thats a change.

LOL, my only arguement is that you are lieing when you said "nearly all Canadian suburbs" were poorly funded with cracked roads, burnt out streetlights and everyone owns cars 10-20 yrs old. And considering you have no proof to back that up but your buddies opinion, and considering I have lived in these types of towns you speak of, I still call you a liar. Now, be branded as such, or prove your case.

Very auspicious that you would now ask for proof. Being that you've now given up at all your attempts to prove me wrong, it just seems too coincidental that you would decide that I have to give proof.

You know what, I don't have proof, I never claimed I did. It is indeed only an opinion that the non-urban areas of Canada are crappy.

But the fact that your only (or last rather) response to that opinion is to claim I have no proof of such an opinion, is very pathetic indeed.

At 7/15/05 07:21 PM, Jimsween wrote: And at that... it would totally unjustify the existance of the Automated Crack Sealing Machine (ACSM). Wierd that they would spend millions on these only to not use them.

Hmmm, the city I worked for (Grimsby Ont) never had one of them fandy dandy ACSM, we did it by hand. And if your city works dept fills the cracks in your highway the same time every year, then kudos to them...

Ok then, I thought you were going off some sort of fact base or something.

u no it's kinda funny,
here we r complaining about which moron shoulda been President,
But we couldn't vote (unless u r 18 yrs or older)

http://www.michaelmo..s/splash/16words.mov

http://www.michaelmo..ds/index.php?id=3467

Read em' and weep.

At 7/20/05 03:53 PM, flash_fox5 wrote: u no it's kinda funny,
here we r complaining about which moron shoulda been President,
But we couldn't vote (unless u r 18 yrs or older)

Thinking of which, what ever happened to the movement to give fifteen year olds partial vote (1/3 or something similar)?

Bump.

Bump Bump.

*tunes up bass*

*thumps it once*

*proceeds to play rap style bass line for 10 minutes*

Man, what I'd give to share a shot of Jag with the pres.

If he drank.

So, any all ya'll folk think Bush's self-imposed ban on alochol is a bit timid for someone as strong and tempered as he?

Bush=Bad
End of story.

If Bush was (really is because it is a neverending disease) an alcoholic, having even one drink could send him off the deep end.

I wouldn't wish anyone to be an alcoholic.

At 8/5/05 11:37 AM, -LazyDrunk- wrote: Man, what I'd give to share a shot of Jag with the pres.

If he drank.

So, any all ya'll folk think Bush's self-imposed ban on alochol is a bit timid for someone as strong and tempered as he?

Isn't Bush a born again christian (bottle to bible actually)? Maybe he got a message from god..
Dudes wacked, anything can happen.

At 8/5/05 11:37 AM, -LazyDrunk- wrote: So, any all ya'll folk think Bush's self-imposed ban on alochol is a bit timid for someone as strong and tempered as he?

No. It's a good thing, and exhibits how strong and tempered he is--that he is able to keep that ban, and avoid becoming the modern day version of Ulysses Grant.

At 8/8/05 01:00 AM, bcdemon wrote: Dudes wacked, anything can happen.

Just because he has a strong conviction about something doesn't mean he's wacked.

At 8/7/05 09:18 PM, -DarkSeraph- wrote: Bush=Bad
End of story.

Care to give any decent reasons?

At 8/8/05 03:08 AM, Sir_Snark wrote: Care to give any decent reasons?

He hasn't done anything to legalize marijuana.