Dumb Story Of The Week

[D2Kvirus]

Everybody, slap your foreheads...

Come on, it doesn't even look like the World Trade Center, let alone mean the same.

[Gobo718]

At 6/25/04 07:38 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Come on, it doesn't even look like the World Trade Center, let alone mean the same.

The article didn't say anything at all about the WTC. I don't think they're comparing the two. Besides, many places around the world are potential targets for terrorist attacks.

This would be akin to terrorists bombing the Statue of Liberty.

[Timfro]

At 6/25/04 07:38 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Everybody, slap your foreheads...

Come on, it doesn't even look like the World Trade Center, let alone mean the same.

Its got absolutly nothing to do with the world trade center. Its the same as terrorists going for any major landmark. To the people that live nearby in Italy it will probably mean more because its closer to them.

[Ravens-Grin]

I should go there someday and use this one device Tesla used to create a minor earthquake...

[ReiperX]

I don't think the terrorists attacked the WTC because of its design, I think it was more of what it was, a national landmark.

Eifel Tower (sp), Statue of Liberty, Red Square, Statue of LIberty, the Libery Bell thing, Japan's Magnet train system, and tings like that that are famous in that country are all legit targets for a terrorist strike. Has nothing to do with the WTC itself.

[D2Kvirus]

At 6/25/04 07:42 AM, Gobo718 wrote:
The article didn't say anything at all about the WTC. I don't think they're comparing the two. Besides, many places around the world are potential targets for terrorist attacks.

God, do I have to write in bold capitals I'M JOKING all the goddamn time?!?

[Montgomery-Scott]

I really don't see how this is a dumb story. It is just a normal news report about the Italian government protecting one of its national monuments.

[TonyLe]

correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't they tried to kill people.
they attacked WTC because there was a lot of americans there.
terrorist would most likely attack people rather than just topple a building.

no amount of defense will protect something if someone wanted it destroyed. WTC was attacked by a plane. I doubt a couple gates would protect the tower aganist a hijacked plane, high explosive, cluster bombs, a dozen suicide bombers, killer tomatos, or whatever terrorist are thinking of right now.

the point is that some people are paranoid and will spend "some" money.

[tadpole-warrior]

well it is antional heratige. id feel the same about the houses of parlement or big ben. they just waant to keep it safe.

[TheShrike]

So American landmarks are the only thing Al Qaida will ever target?

I could swear you're a goddamn moron sometimes, D2K.

[Gobo718]

At 6/26/04 10:04 AM, D2KVirus wrote: God, do I have to write in bold capitals I'M JOKING all the goddamn time?!?

In this case, yeah. There is a deep intelligence curve on the NG BBS. I know many people on here who'd think like this... so it wasn't obvious sarcasm or satire. Use an emoticon or something when being vague as to your intentions.

[witeshark]

In the big picture, extremist idiots need to learn that terror tactics are doomed to failure. They need to get a clue and try something else

[NoHitHair]

God, do I have to write in bold capitals I'M JOKING all the goddamn time?!?

If you could, I'm sure we'd all appreciate it.

Thanks.

[D2Kvirus]

At 6/26/04 01:49 PM, TheShrike wrote: So American landmarks are the only thing Al Qaida will ever target?

OK, then - list every other landmark they've hit, and what country they're in.

Actually, can you prove al-Qu'eda even exist these days, apart from in the fearmongering reportage that tries to confirm this time and again.

Oh, and lastly, when has Osama EVER said he wants to attack Italy? Besides, Rome'd be a better target than the Leaning Tower any day - there's an actual population there. That's like saying the next attack will be the world's biggest thermometer in Baker, California.

I could swear you're a goddamn moron sometimes, D2K.

Considering what I think of you, especially as you're playing along with the other dickheads in this thread (once again, the line of "What's wrong with protecting ourselves?" crops up, casually ignoring the fact that there isn't any need), your comment doesn't get noted.

If you can't see how it's nothing but a stupid, poorly thought-out reactionary measure that happens to be meaningless, you're the goddamn moron. That counts for all of you.

By the way, there's a terrorist standing behind you.

[D2Kvirus]

The thing about 9/11 that most people miss (while going on and on about it), is that it was orchastrated for maximum shock. Take these aspects into account:

1.) New York is the largest population centre of the US.
2.) New York is also the base for a large amount of media.
3.) 9/11 guaranteed a large bodycount to get notice (2800+, as it currently stands).
4.) The sight of a large building being brought down will get attention.
5.) The WTC happened to mean more than just a landmark - it stood for commerce.

Compared to this, what has the Leaning Tower of Pisa got? Pisa isn't a large population base (in Italy, it isn't even near the top ten), there isn't a media channel based there to film it, 9-11 is the guess of a bodycount if it is brought down, it isn't that large (and gravity has been bringing it down for centuries anyway), and it is just a landmark - it was built as a bit of bragadaccio (being the largest church bell tower at the time), but that has dissipated.

Terrorists never strike small areas, unless a plane is blown up over them. 9/11 in the most obvious case in point (New York and Washington), but countless others follow this - the IRA focused on London, with occasional attacks in Birmingham (second city of England) and Manchester, Hamas attack large Israeli cities (mainly Jeruselem), and the Bali bombing was, again, a large population centre, and maximum shock could be gained.

The only thing Pisa could be used for is the airport nearby - and the terrorists would more likely aim for Bologna, which isn't that far, but has a larger population to affect. What, you believed Osama got a NYC guide and planned 9/11 based on tourism?

Who'se the goddamn moron here?

[NoHitHair]

Who'se the goddamn moron here?

Look, in terms of likelihood, you're absolutely right - the WTC was at much higher risk than Pisa ever will be. Perhaps this dispute is over whether or not officials are defending Pisa in lieu of the WTC attacks?

In which case, I still agree with you, D2K. Why would they suddenly increase security? Why not before? Seems a bit suspicious and is probably related to 9/11.

[D2Kvirus]

At 6/28/04 09:55 AM, NoHitHair wrote:
In which case, I still agree with you, D2K. Why would they suddenly increase security? Why not before? Seems a bit suspicious and is probably related to 9/11.

Would it have anything to do with the recent (12-13 June) Italian elections? Berlosconi's party (Forza Italia - what is it with politics and football chants?) lost a fair number of seats, and amid claims the ballot was rigged against him, the terrorist card is played once again.

Bush, Blair, Berlosconi - never trust a leader who'se name begins with a "B" - especially if the Clock Crew pick up on it.

[TheShrike]

At 6/27/04 08:32 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Considering what I think of you

I could care less what you think of me.

By the look of your response, the same is not true in reverse. Boo-hoo.

By the way, there's a terrorist standing behind you.

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG GET IT OFF GET IT OFF!!!@!!

[D2Kvirus]

At 6/28/04 10:06 AM, TheShrike wrote:

At 6/27/04 08:32 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Considering what I think of you

I could care less what you think of me.

I notice you haven't responded to the other one. How totally unexpected...

[SteveGuzzi]

I think the WTC was targeted not only for its location / possible death toll / impact on media...but for what it represents. Shit, I shouldn't even have to explain it, yet so many people just glance over it. World Trade. Global consumerism and materialism. Isn't THAT what the extremists are against? What exactly does the Leaning Tower represent that would make people exert effort to destroy it? Seriously, the Leaning Tower would just be a target for people who want to blow up something, anything that has a recognizable name.

Terrorists attempted to take down the WTC in 1993 and failed; 9/11 was then carefully masterminded for years, and it succeeded. Extremists don't go through all that trouble just to get people angry, they do it to get people angry AND to get them to listen to their zealotous political/religious/whatever message.

[WorldEmperor]

I was at the tower of Pisa in March. They didn't have the gates then, and security consisted of having to put all bags away in a locker. No metal detectors, nothing. The tower is pretty stable, yet the stairs near the top are so worn away, I was in fear of tripping and falling to my bloody death every time I took a step. They only let 40 people in the tower every hour, I am not sure why, but Italy is not necessarily a stable country, and some of its citizens may not necessarily be stable people. This is true of any country, and I believe the tower admin is just trying to protect the tourism industry Pisa depends on so much. Half the town works in that industry, and if the tower were to fall, it would devastate the region, and would be a cultural loss to the Italian people.

[TheShrike]

At 6/28/04 10:12 AM, D2KVirus wrote: I notice you haven't responded to the other one. How totally unexpected...

I had nothing to say. It is pointless, afterall. I just don't see it as pointless for the same reason as you. Don't assume so much. Or is that what you do best?

[Earfetish]

I agree with what everyone has said. If the Leaning Tower is taken down, I will cry no tears. If Al Qaieda were going to make a big impact, they would choose the Vatican (home of Catholicism - reinforcing claims of it being a religious crusade from both parties) or some governmental building.

The IRA could've done a lot more when they attacked Manchester, incidentally. There are a lot of important buildings there and a lot of potential victims.

[Proteas]

I would just love to be there the day the tower actually falls down. I can just see a couple of pisans, maybe a father and son talking....

"Papa, the tower! She's falling!"
"The tower has been like that since I was a boy Pedro, she's a not gonna fall."
"But Papa, she is!"

*looks out the window*
*see tower falling*

"Well sheet, she is falling!"

*Takes off hat, makes the sign of the cross*

[NoHitHair]

At 6/28/04 04:37 PM, Proteas wrote: "Papa, the tower! She's falling!"
"The tower has been like that since I was a boy Pedro, she's a not gonna fall."
"But Papa, she is!"

Whoops, lemme fix that dialogue for you:

"Papa, thea towera! She'sa fallinga!"
"Thea towera hasa beena likea thata sincea Ia wasa boya, Pedroa, she'sa nota gonna falla!"
"Buta papa, shea isa!"

There we go. Much better.

[D2Kvirus]

At 6/28/04 10:52 AM, TheShrike wrote:
I had nothing to say. It is pointless, afterall. I just don't see it as pointless for the same reason as you. Don't assume so much. Or is that what you do best?

I know you have nothing to say - that's why I don't care what you think about me. Still, nice to see you think that you have some importance in my life, Shrikey - even if more people on this thread are agreeing with me than you are. Would that be the little matter of I know what I'm saying, because it isn't just bitchy remarks?

Landmarks? Yeesh...