Be a Supporter!

Do we have to hate Jontron now?

  • 1,230 Views
  • 64 Replies
New Topic Respond to this Topic
argile
argile
  • Member since: Jun. 2, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 12
Audiophile
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-17 21:30:14 Reply

At 3/17/17 08:02 PM, Wegra wrote:
At 3/16/17 09:20 AM, argile wrote: He only stated his own political opinions ,he shouldn't get flack for it.
I just dont see why these celebrities feel the need to blab about their political opinions. Just stick what you do best at and keep your political opinions to yourself ffs.

They definitely have ruined their careers and reputations from speaking out

Wegra
Wegra
  • Member since: Feb. 21, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 50
Writer
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-17 21:38:50 Reply

At 3/17/17 09:30 PM, argile wrote:
At 3/17/17 08:02 PM, Wegra wrote:
At 3/16/17 09:20 AM, argile wrote:

They definitely have ruined their careers and reputations from speaking out

Yup


I have a penis

BBS Signature
NostalgicNerd94
NostalgicNerd94
  • Member since: Jan. 14, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 07
Artist
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-18 11:05:46 Reply

At 3/17/17 06:43 PM, Chdonga wrote:
At 3/17/17 04:02 PM, NostalgicNerd94 wrote: Who the fuck is Jontron?
One of Newgrounds's most famous traitors.

Oh okay.

Jurornumber3
Jurornumber3
  • Member since: Dec. 18, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-18 11:22:10 Reply

Jontron landed on the Whammy of life when he decided to get political.

Do we have to hate Jontron now?

GreenSoap
GreenSoap
  • Member since: Jul. 28, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Movie Buff
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-18 12:31:15 Reply

I don't give a shit that he outed his political opinions, but is he a Nazi? To me it seems that he's just worded himself poorly.

He didn't present that many worthwhile arguments in his debate with Destiny, most of them were pretty shit and stronger arguments could have definitely been made for his case. He also makes himself look like a complete dunce in the way he words himself, which is why I don't think he should be having these debates to begin with. He's just not a good debater, and going up against Destiny was stupid.

And I try to separate the creator from the content, so I don't really care what his politics are either way as long as he continues to make the guud shit.

I love what he tweeted out tho: https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/828854682487500800

Do we have to hate Jontron now?

JTStarrProductions
JTStarrProductions
  • Member since: Jan. 12, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Blank Slate

At 3/17/17 06:12 PM, cuttyflame wrote: Should we hate everyone now cause they have opinion? is this really what 2017 is gonna be like

You don't have to hate anyone with an unpopular opinion, but you can't expect people not to judge you under the same lens for apparently condoning it. Also understand that these are opinions in and of themselves, so by telling people they can't hate people with bad or wrong opinions you're doing the exact same thing you don't want others doing.

It's tricky to separate creator from content but it's doable. Content will obviously reflect creator. But I still like Rick and Morty even though Dan Harmon's a huge asshole.


There's more of us on Youtube. Join the JT Starr Movement!

BBS Signature
kazumazkan
kazumazkan
  • Member since: Nov. 29, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 13
Melancholy
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-18 13:16:42 Reply

well he's not wrong a lot of crime indeed happen in black neighborhoods and in many hispanic neighborhoods as well,it's the reason why i left my old neighborhood.


"Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?
was her name tenneassi
omtish

BBS Signature
mikelzNG
mikelzNG
  • Member since: Sep. 21, 2014
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 05
Blank Slate
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-18 16:02:37 Reply

Me personally, as long as his politics don't fuck with the quality of the content, it doesnt matter to me. Regardless of how right or wrong he may be. I tend to follow people from both sides of the fence, mostly because i admire their work without getting political. I feel strongly that anybody who feels the need to have their own echo-chamber of "the right opinions" is about as closed minded as they make the other side out to be.


BBS Signature
iscrulz
iscrulz
  • Member since: Feb. 12, 2002
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 60
Movie Buff
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-18 20:39:16 Reply

At 3/16/17 06:47 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: No, he said something that is really disagreeable and people get their panties up their bunch. People gets triggered easily lately.

Good but his fanboy will still follow him.

I'll leave it at that before I get in too deep in this shit storm of stupidity.

Also fuck Polygon and fuck Destiny.

Don't know. Don't care.


£5 man slut for hire. Inquire within

Wi/Ht? #45

BBS Signature
ninjamuffin99
ninjamuffin99
  • Member since: Oct. 2, 2015
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 20
Game Developer
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-18 21:31:18 Reply

I've always enjoyed Jon and his content. I disagree with his opinions, but I still look forward to every video he posts.


#BringBackBeardFulp

BBS Signature
Idiot-Finder
Idiot-Finder
  • Member since: Aug. 29, 2002
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 60
Gamer
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-18 21:57:42 Reply

At 3/18/17 08:39 PM, iscrulz wrote:
At 3/16/17 06:47 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
Good but his fanboy will still follow him.

Good for him.

I'll leave it at that before I get in too deep in this shit storm of stupidity.

Also fuck Polygon and fuck Destiny.
Don't know. Don't care.

Fair enough.


Please subscribe
"As the old saying goes...what was it again?"
.·´¯`·->YFIQ's collections of stories!<-·´¯`·.

BBS Signature
StaticSkull
StaticSkull
  • Member since: Jan. 16, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 20
Animator
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-19 11:55:13 Reply

At 3/17/17 04:02 PM, NostalgicNerd94 wrote: Who the fuck is Jontron?

The biggest sack of sexiness I've ever seen

Jurornumber3
Jurornumber3
  • Member since: Dec. 18, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Ultramartyr
Ultramartyr
  • Member since: Sep. 27, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 03
Musician
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 02:12:00 Reply

he's not a nazi. this whole "punch nazis" assetry has people thinking it's the morally justified thing to do to label anyone with conservative viewpoints a nazi. i lean more liberal but the far left is as bad as the far right. you don't have to hate anyone, he's entitled to his opinion just like everybody else.


It doesn't sound good, but it sounds better than it used to.

BBS Signature
Pugberto
Pugberto
  • Member since: Feb. 4, 2007
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 22
Reader
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 05:45:09 Reply

I used to really to enjoy his videos. However, over the last few years I've drifted away from gaming and therefore away from those kind of YouTube videos.

In light of recent events I have unsubscribed to his online profiles. I've found some of his statements to be indefensible and worrying, especially when you consider the number of children watching YouTubers like him.

lapis
lapis
  • Member since: Aug. 11, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 26
Melancholy
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 07:42:20 Reply

At 3/20/17 12:32 AM, Jurornumber3 wrote: Jontron made a statement.

He's right in saying that the people who say that they want a discussion about race in fact want a monologue about race. But it's extremely naive for him to get involved in identity politics on the Internet and not expect a backlash. Regardless of whether he's prepared or unprepared, regardless of whether he's cool or nervous under pressure.

Ghoti
Ghoti
  • Member since: May. 14, 2014
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 07
Musician

I am currently unsubscribing from Jon "Tron" Jafari, based on him being a white supremacist.

If you don't use your power for good, then you don't deserve power.

At 3/20/17 12:32 AM, Jurornumber3 wrote: Jontron made a statement.

Wellllllllll...

Enough to make me re-subscribe. But not enough to win back my broken heart :*(


I carry your heart. I carry it in my heart.

BBS Signature
troPSDNUORGWEN
troPSDNUORGWEN
  • Member since: Sep. 10, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Audiophile

At 3/17/17 06:12 PM, cuttyflame wrote: Should we hate everyone now cause they have opinion? is this really what 2017 is gonna be like

That's sadly how things seem to be going.

Anyways, this isn't really getting us anywhere, opinions are not something to fight about, and that's a fact (Facts aren't true statements, it's just something you can prove is true). @stafffighter @Mich Lock this please.


I'm not active anymore, I don't think anyone cares anyways

Idiot-Finder
Idiot-Finder
  • Member since: Aug. 29, 2002
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 60
Gamer
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 11:58:45 Reply

At 3/20/17 07:42 AM, SumQuodEris wrote:
At 3/20/17 12:32 AM, Jurornumber3 wrote: Jontron made a statement.
He's right in saying that the people who say that they want a discussion about race in fact want a monologue about race. But it's extremely naive for him to get involved in identity politics on the Internet and not expect a backlash. Regardless of whether he's prepared or unprepared, regardless of whether he's cool or nervous under pressure.

Agreed, even if he debated well there's still going to be people throwing a shit storm over his political beliefs. If anything, he should have turned down the debate invite with Destiny since it wasn't worth it and that shows. If someone calls him a coward for turning down the debate, it's that person's problem.

Also you should look at the comments section, tells you something...then again this is the internet after all.


Please subscribe
"As the old saying goes...what was it again?"
.·´¯`·->YFIQ's collections of stories!<-·´¯`·.

BBS Signature
TheDukeofJuke
TheDukeofJuke
  • Member since: Jul. 7, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 01
Musician
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 12:19:33 Reply

At 3/16/17 09:29 AM, Oddlem wrote: It's interesting to see the contrast of how people here and how people on Deviantart are reacting to it, because everyone over there is flipping out over it.

Cause we're Newgrounds. We take a situation and examine every close detail with a fair analysis to develop an un-biased opi-Hahahaha, I'm sorry. I can't do it.

Kehmicle
Kehmicle
  • Member since: Feb. 12, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 14
Programmer
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 13:39:16 Reply

nazis arent real.


BBS Signature
Jurornumber3
Jurornumber3
  • Member since: Dec. 18, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 13:42:57 Reply

At 3/20/17 01:39 PM, Kehmicle wrote: nazis arent real.

Yeah. That's just Jewish propaganda.

SkimblixWalker
SkimblixWalker
  • Member since: Jul. 25, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Art Lover
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 19:25:09 Reply

At 3/16/17 01:05 AM, Zornuzkull wrote: I always hated him...

Why?


[as] is good for your health

BBS Signature
Naughtaisle
Naughtaisle
  • Member since: Feb. 18, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 08
Game Developer
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-20 20:20:49 Reply

Yeah,
I invited the guy aboard my intergalactic space destroyer,
come to find out he assaulted one of my most elite members.
AND hes racist? Pfff, fahgettaboutit


BBS Signature
Zornuzkull
Zornuzkull
  • Member since: Mar. 28, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 15
Movie Buff
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-21 10:56:52 Reply

At 3/20/17 07:25 PM, SkimblixWalker wrote:
At 3/16/17 01:05 AM, Zornuzkull wrote: I always hated him...
Why?

Nah he's alright...


BBS Signature
Rusty
Rusty
  • Member since: Mar. 28, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 08
Melancholy
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-21 11:23:58 Reply

At 3/20/17 01:42 PM, Jurornumber3 wrote:
At 3/20/17 01:39 PM, Kehmicle wrote: nazis arent real.
Yeah. That's just Jewish propaganda.

I don't even think Germans exist. Literally every kraut I've ever met has had a certain "woodenness" to their personality, like they're poorly paid, bad actors.

Because of course Jews aren't going to hire decent actors to be pretend to be a nation when they can hire shitty drama students at the local community college for cheap.


You live on such a tiny island, at least Gilligan explored his! You're just drawing a tiny circle around your mud hut and saying everything outside it is totally gay.

EoD696
EoD696
  • Member since: Sep. 29, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Musician
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-21 13:25:02 Reply

Who's Jontron, again?


Show some love.
The latest from EoD

DISCLAIMER: I can be a dick sometimes. Just call me on it - say "EoD, you're being a dick right now" and I will try to curb my enthusiasm.

BBS Signature
Jurornumber3
Jurornumber3
  • Member since: Dec. 18, 2016
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-21 13:28:43 Reply

At 3/21/17 11:04 AM, SamPercyWellsDay wrote: Although, I should rephrase my first post

Its not that I don't find him funny anymore, he still is, only that with this stuff going on, its hard to ignore it and doesn't exactly make me eager to catch up on his latest work, even if he does try keep this stuff separate from his work.

There's nothing to catch up on, anyway.

He uploads videos very infrequently.

Kehmicle
Kehmicle
  • Member since: Feb. 12, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 14
Programmer
Response to Do we have to hate Jontron now? 2017-03-21 14:16:54 Reply

At 3/21/17 11:23 AM, Rusty wrote:
I don't even think Germans exist. Literally every kraut I've ever met has had a certain "woodenness" to their personality, like they're poorly paid, bad actors.

Because of course Jews aren't going to hire decent actors to be pretend to be a nation when they can hire shitty drama students at the local community college for cheap.

I mean, I dont know about that. I just dont really think theyre real anymore. They were real, but now they arent.


BBS Signature
Rusty
Rusty
  • Member since: Mar. 28, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 08
Melancholy

At 3/21/17 02:16 PM, Kehmicle wrote:
At 3/21/17 11:23 AM, Rusty wrote:
I mean, I dont know about that. I just dont really think theyre real anymore. They were real, but now they arent.

The entire nation got replaced with emotionless and autistic clones. Look it up.


You live on such a tiny island, at least Gilligan explored his! You're just drawing a tiny circle around your mud hut and saying everything outside it is totally gay.