At 1/20/17 08:25 PM, Camarohusky wrote: What, you missed the flood of entitled white people who were mad they couldn't buy the most top of the line TV due to their insurance and instead had to opt for the mid tier?

Selective dickery, yeah?

I'm one of those people, I watch porn on my phone because TV's are gay and all that forced Obamacare bullshit cuts my funds even more.

Don't be upset though man, he gon make merica great ageen

I opened up by bottle of 15 year old single malt whiskey and watched the inauguration then I watched some videos of people freaking out and breaking shit like petulant children because they didn't get their way.

At 1/20/17 11:08 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: I opened up by bottle of 15 year old single malt whiskey and watched the inauguration then I watched some videos of people freaking out and breaking shit like petulant children because they didn't get their way.

Isn't that what usually happens. One party wins the other people throw a fit. Weren't their people in some states calling to secede when Obama won last time.

At 1/20/17 11:58 PM, LordJaric wrote: Isn't that what usually happens. One party wins the other people throw a fit. Weren't their people in some states calling to secede when Obama won last time.

I remember that they used the Whitehouse.gov petition section and like 30 states got their petitions signed to ask obama to peacefully allow their states to secede from the Union. of course those whiny cunts in California are doing it too this year for midterms making a referendum to secede from the union due to being so "progressive culturally".

At 1/21/17 12:12 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: I remember that they used the Whitehouse.gov petition section and like 30 states got their petitions signed to ask obama to peacefully allow their states to secede from the Union. of course those whiny cunts in California are doing it too this year for midterms making a referendum to secede from the union due to being so "progressive culturally".

California should just be its own country already. Their population is already greater than Canada's and the entire shit hole is mass controlled by liberal media and douchebag Hollywood celebrities.

At 1/21/17 05:50 AM, mothballs wrote: California should just be its own country already. Their population is already greater than Canada's and the entire shit hole is mass controlled by liberal media and douchebag Hollywood celebrities.

No California alone makes the 6th largest economy plus it's fun watching them bitch beg and cry. I'd anything Canada should be part of the US.

At 1/21/17 01:20 AM, Sensationalism wrote:

At 1/20/17 11:08 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: I opened up by bottle of 15 year old single malt whiskey and watched the inauguration then I watched some videos of people freaking out and breaking shit like petulant children because they didn't get their way.

Protests were peaceful. Protesting isn't petulant, it's patriotic and American. Black Bloc is their own group.

Protesting is just a waste of time which accomplishes nothing and regardless black bloc was still Protesting which makes them protesters.

At 1/21/17 11:15 AM, Sause wrote: This is a sad truth. I first noticed it during the Tea Party's meteoric rise. There are these old women in folding chairs out in the summer heat, holding up signs with their arthritic fingers, not getting a damn thing done, while I'm sitting cozy in my air conditioned domicile. Something wasn't right with that picture.

of course getting out with a little sign singing some adorable chant about equality, diversity and tolerance won't do shit. The left have to realize this, of course they're to busy trying to raise money and save their little sinking ship after the election.

It ended up being true, that they didnt really accomplish a damn thing. Have you heard about the Tea Party lately? Not since they had their money siphoned off by the IRS for X-reason. This sent a chilling effect through the whole organization, and why they are not seen today.

but something in the long term they did help keep the GOP control over Congress during Elections and midterms where it really does matter. and some have even said they played a part in 2016 due to Tea Party politicians in the GOP and the right wing populist movement. and the IRS targeting Tea Party and other right wing groups did cause a decline but thankfully Congress got the people in charge out of it.

Under Trump, military pay and benefits could see a boost

Military advocates are hopeful that, with Donald Trump in the White House, troops' pay and benefits will improve in coming years. But they’re not letting their guard down just yet.

In December, Congress approved the 2.1 percent military pay raise that took effect this month — one-half of a percent point more than the Pentagon's request — and scrapped controversial plans to scale back troops' housing stipends. Both moves were praised by those who've opposed the Obama administration's efforts to rein in military personnel costs, reductions the Pentagon deemed necessary as broader defense spending has tightened.

The 2.1 percent pay raise is the highest since 2010, and the first time in four years that troops’ raise has matched that of their private-sector peers. Trump has promised to “rebuild the military” through increased funding, and he has hinted at improving compensation in the process. But that will depend on cooperation from Congress, where military advocates have found allies and enemies in recent years.
“We’re not going to forget the attack on [housing stipends] last year, and we know they’re coming back,” said Dan Merry, vice president of government relations for the Military Officers Association of America. “So we’re watching everything closely.”
Last spring, Senate staffers inserted language into an early draft of the annual defense spending bill that would have fundamentally altered the military's housing allowance system, which today assigns flat-rate stipends for zip codes across the country. It's based on troops’ rank and family status, and often exceeds what they pay to live off base. The Senate's proposal called for creation of a reimbursement system, awarding troops only the precise amount they pay in rent each month. Dual military couples and service members who live with roommates would have seen their housing stipend cut in half, adjusted to cover actual costs and nothing more.

At 1/21/17 07:04 PM, Sensationalism wrote: What was that thing about dumping tea into the water? What's that thing everyone remembers Rosa Parks for? Oh yeah, protesting. It has a long history of accomplishing things and is a part of our American culture.

It really is disheartening to me how many people are just down on activism. Peaceful protest is a cornerstone of any true Democracy. But rioting and violence is never protected nor should it be condoned or tolerated. Also if protest and activism is not welded to real and meaningful political action, then and only then should it be termed "useless"

At 1/21/17 08:43 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: It really is disheartening to me how many people are just down on activism. Peaceful protest is a cornerstone of any true Democracy.

I don't think people are down on activism as much as it is activism fatigue and watching them either stagnate long enough to drown out the message and turn against the Average Joe or devolve into sporadic violence and misbehavior because protest leaders couldn't (and/or often times don't) organize themselves enough to keep the rabble at bay. Successful movements in this country managed to stick to the goals they set themselves on while appealing themselves to the average person, and even then, it takes years and sometimes decades for true change to happen, something that most of the microwave movements don't seem to understand.

By no means is this a healthy view to have in the political sense, but the alternatives are generally much worse.

At 1/21/17 05:54 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: I'd anything Canada should be part of the US.

;;;

Thanks ...but no thanks !

Its bad enough having to live right next door to you guys.

Its like the noisy loud partying neighbours where everyone there gets so inebriated all the time, any possibility of coherent conversations with you are impossible. So we just sit back & look into your backyard & watch your stupidity in disbelief .

There is no way you have any Canadian support for us to 'move in together' .
Because its one thing to be neighbours , completely different to live in the same house ! ! !

*closes & locks doors, turns out the lights & heads to bed for some sleep* Good night.

At 1/23/17 12:07 PM, morefngdbs wrote: Thanks ...but no thanks !

Well... if you want to get technical, Canada isn't so much neighbors as much as it is living in an apartment that their mother (America) owns and pays for because they know they can afford it and won't trash the place.

Looking at 2018 midterm projections and it doesn't look good for the Dems they have to defend 23 seats in the senate compared to GOPs 8 and ten of them could flip enough to give the GOP that sweet 2/3rds majority

Also hurray for Trump signing those pipeline bills that shit is gonna make jobs and boost the economy up here in the dakotas, Montana and Minnesota not t9 mention help relieve our dependence on foreign energy.

Trump's plans for the 2nd amendment.

Hitting all the right points. Pretty sure Michael Moore is melting like a slug from the amount of salt he's making.

At 1/24/17 11:19 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: Also hurray for Trump signing those pipeline bills that shit is gonna make jobs

Important to note that most Keystone jobs won't be sticking around after construction is done. State department expects maybe 35 permanent jobs (4.10-5 paragraph 6). Expect a similar situation with DAPL.

At 1/24/17 11:19 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: Looking at 2018 midterm projections and it doesn't look good for the Dems they have to defend 23 seats in the senate compared to GOPs 8 and ten of them could flip enough to give the GOP that sweet 2/3rds majority

Careful about the hill. They often have a pro-right bias. I also think it's too early to be calling much of anything with the mid-terms. This Congress and This President have historically low approval ratings, and if they think they can just push through their agenda and there's no chance of it coming back to bite 'em that'd be a mistake. Still, history tells us the Left is good at getting pissed and getting that on the air, but very bad at the drudgery of actual political work of putting up a good candidate and getting them elected. Hope springs eternal though

Also hurray for Trump signing those pipeline bills that shit is gonna make jobs and boost the economy up here in the dakotas, Montana and Minnesota not t9 mention help relieve our dependence on foreign energy.

Construction jobs tend to be temporary. But possible drinking water contamination is forever :)

Also I'm under the impression that there's still some hurdles they have to overcome with environmental regulations and such. That these orders mostly took them from "dead" to "back in play" but there has been some misreporting of what Trump has actually been doing in terms of orders vs. memoranda

At 1/24/17 10:17 PM, Sensationalism wrote:

At 1/23/17 05:02 PM, orangebomb wrote:

At 1/23/17 12:07 PM, morefngdbs wrote: Thanks ...but no thanks !

Well... if you want to get technical, Canada isn't so much neighbors as much as it is living in an apartment that their mother (America) owns and pays for because they know they can afford it and won't trash the place.

;;;
Ahhhh it would be funny if you weren't so F^(#!+G wrong , and so unbelievably misguided.

When are they going to be kicked out for smoking weed and freeloading on healthcare? XD

Actually ...they WHOLE COUNTRY is about to legalize marijuana. Unlike the USA, where individual states have to do it against their federal government, so people can still be persecuted by federal officials while State officials happily collect the tax revenue.

At 1/23/17 05:28 PM, Entice wrote:

Hurray for the end of TPP!
Also, the EPA has been silenced.

;;;
The last Government here tried silencing the EPA, firing & silencing our scientists, just like Trump did recently.
They attempted to destroy Unions, they cut veterans support ( they labeled it "RESTRUCTURING") attacked our medical system & retired persons ...all in the name of "Fair Job Place" and other BS spin doctoring to cuts on these people & the voters seen right through it.

FYI, a small ray of hope to you guys .... that strategy worked so well they lost the latest election by one of the largest defeats in our history. You can steal from us, lie to us , cheat us out of our hard earned dollars, & still the die hards will vote for you. But you go fucking around with our children's future, our medicare & old people & the population will turn on you like your a fresh bloody piece of meat in the piranha tank .

So if Trump stays true to form, 4 years may be all you have to put up with & even better, next election there's a good chance Hillary won't have a chance to get back on the ticket ....& maybe you'll have a real choice, put forward

At 1/26/17 10:14 AM, morefngdbs wrote: So if Trump stays true to form, 4 years may be all you have to put up with & even better, next election there's a good chance Hillary won't have a chance to get back on the ticket ....& maybe you'll have a real choice, put forward

It's never too early to make a prediction. I'm feeling Cory Booker in 2020.

Kanye said he was gonna run in '24 he should probably push that to 2020 I would vote for him.

At 1/27/17 10:17 AM, sjwgenocide wrote:

At 1/27/17 08:26 AM, Sause wrote: Easy to build, yes

also quite expensive and how the hell is the government supposed to coerce Mexico to pay for it?

;;;
Read somewhere today, possibly BBC or CBC news, that he has mentioned charging a 20% tax on anything arriving from Mexico, & trade between countries is around 1.6 billion a day.
Bet that plummets is a 20% tax gets imposed.
Which Mexico would probably match ....yeah that sounds damn good for business .

At 1/27/17 10:17 AM, sjwgenocide wrote: also quite expensive and how the hell is the government supposed to coerce mexico to pay for it?

You know, if I didn't think the wall was a completely bonkers idea, the most politically savvy way would be to have a very successful renegotiation of NAFTA and spin that as Mexico's reimbursement for the wall. Trump would actually have a much better chance taking this approach rather than intercepting money from illegal immigrants.

At 1/27/17 11:03 AM, morefngdbs wrote: Read somewhere today, possibly BBC or CBC news, that he has mentioned charging a 20% tax on anything arriving from Mexico,

So making Americans pay the tarrif and having an overall chilling effect on Mexican goods sent to America is going to have Mexico pay for what exactly? Does he mean "pay for it" the same way a vengeful boy on the playground does?

At 1/27/17 08:26 AM, Sause wrote: A thought about the wall...

Won't it be difficult to enforce? Easy to build, yes, but having a steady drumbeat of "thousands turned away" and "31 injured in clashes with border control" or somebody decides to martyr themselves and run after being told to stop.

It might become politically toxic, and bad optics for this administration, as cold as that sounds. Time will tell

Plus the name-calling writes its self: "ICE-IS stops brown people for being brown!" Again and again

The wall sounds like a testament to American gullibility. There might be some racist, introverts, out there who love the idea of building a wall that they will ultimately have to pay for, along with growing government to patrol it and and crack down on illegals, because they argue that illegals are a tax burden, even though various studies show they often offset that cost by paying taxes through sales taxes on products and gas.

These same people who support the wall will argue that illegals steal American jobs, while the wall does not stop companies from continuing to outsource millions of American jobs to foreign countries like China and India, or ship thousands of immigrants here with Visas to replace American workers (and have those American workers train their replacement), all for cheap labor to reduce costs and show profit to their shareholders and giving their top management raises for a job well done.

The absurdity of the arguments for the wall doesn't stop there, as it's supporters argue that it will reduce drugs and crime, ignoring the simple fact that such things haven't stopped them so far, as there are two oceans on either end to use ships to transport them directly to the US, or through Canada, or they can simply dig underneath any wall (which is what they often do). And a lot of drugs are not just from the south of the border, a lot of it can come from other countries, like China, who are a big supplier of methamphetamine. And the US is one of the largest growers of Marijuana. And lets be frank, prohibition of any substance creates crime, as it did in the 1920's with the outlawing of alcohol which led to the rise of gangsters and the mafia.

The whole thing with the wall on Mexican border is a con's man game, which isn't going to stop illegal immigration, the loss of american jobs, or stop drugs and crimes. While proponents of the wall will claim that Mexico will pay for it, it's most likely be the American people stuck with the bill. Congressional Republicans may have committed 10 to 15 billion to it, but anyone who has followed the California high speed rail, has seen the cost for it balloon from 50 billion to 90 billion, given the delays and legal troubles it has faced from farmers, and business owners - and the rail is only going to be 200 - 300 miles long. The Mexican border is around 2,000 miles, and it's going to face similar, if not more contentious resistance, not only from Mexico, but from US land owners along the border. I expect the total cost to be around a trillion for the wall, if they do it's in entirety. Of course they can do it small section, which amount to doing a band-aid job, and not what Trump promised. Here's a good article/ video on the challenges.

In the end, the wall is nothing more than something conservatives, and racist, love to masturbate to, but in reality, is impractical, incredibly costly, and just a scam to sell a used car salesman into office who falls far short of expectations.

People above ground running across the border isn't the issue. It's All the tricky devices they use to defeat the existing fence. You build a bigger wall, they'll just take all these methods and make them stronger. This also doesn't address all the issue of narco tunnels which will just get more popular and thwart the billion dollar wall. This also fails to address illegal immigration by Europeans and others who come over on LEGAL Visas, and then overstay them thus now becoming illegal. It's like most of Trumps ideas: Big bold saber rattling action, but it only addresses a symptom, not the overall problem. A multi-pronged approach is needed to illegal immigration I think, and the right answer is likely to mean both sides have to give some things up to make it happen. We used to understand that.

At 1/27/17 06:10 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Big bold saber rattling action, but it only addresses a symptom, not the overall problem.

Yes, but that is also one of the biggest concerns I have about Trump. It's not just the wall, it's his attempt to use it to create conflict, which conservatives, like him, seem to benefit from, politically, and financially. He's trying to create trade wars, or conflict, with certain countries, or provoke certain races, or religions, and it doesn't take much for some incident to happen to allow him to use it and double down on it. Hitler used the Reichstag fire to gain power, accusing Jews of being behind it. Bush used the 9-11 attacks as one of the reasons he invaded Iraq. Then we look at Benghazi, and how Republicans used it to attack Obama, and Clinton, holding Congressional hearings that lasted longer, and costed more, than the 9-11 hearings.

It may be a rattle sabering, but he, and Republicans, are going to try and use that to their advantage if something does erupt from it.

At 1/27/17 06:55 PM, EdyKel wrote: It may be a rattle sabering, but he, and Republicans, are going to try and use that to their advantage if something does erupt from it.

I think one of the problems about Trump is a lot of people on the left are assuming he's a lot smarter then he is. Or they think he's deliberately trying to take over, he isn't. He's not that smart and he doesn't pay that much attention. He can't even really tell what's executive orders, and what's memoranda and even when you look at the orders a lot of them are tricky and could fall by the way side because their worded more like press releases and he's already indicating the charge I've made against him since at least Kasich alleged Trump offered him the Presidency in all but name: Trump won't actually be running the government, he'll let various department heads do it for him and then just claim credit if something goes well.

That's not to say don't watch, don't be leery, don't hold people accountable. I've been lighting up my social media for months and months with stuff. But if you just get scared, don't look at the facts and the realities of things, you'll either miss the real crimes....or you become little better then the people you dislike to begin with. We need to speak Truth to Power, but we also must know the Truth about Power.

At 1/27/17 10:03 PM, MemeFiend2017 wrote: Just buy American (＾▽＾)

When America starts making Jarritos and Muscat & Apple Fanta, then I'll buy American.

At 1/27/17 08:12 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 1/27/17 06:55 PM, EdyKel wrote: It may be a rattle sabering, but he, and Republicans, are going to try and use that to their advantage if something does erupt from it.

I think one of the problems about Trump is a lot of people on the left are assuming he's a lot smarter then he is. Or they think he's deliberately trying to take over, he isn't. He's not that smart and he doesn't pay that much attention. He can't even really tell what's executive orders, and what's memoranda and even when you look at the orders a lot of them are tricky and could fall by the way side because their worded more like press releases and he's already indicating the charge I've made against him since at least Kasich alleged Trump offered him the Presidency in all but name: Trump won't actually be running the government, he'll let various department heads do it for him and then just claim credit if something goes well.

That's not to say don't watch, don't be leery, don't hold people accountable. I've been lighting up my social media for months and months with stuff. But if you just get scared, don't look at the facts and the realities of things, you'll either miss the real crimes....or you become little better then the people you dislike to begin with. We need to speak Truth to Power, but we also must know the Truth about Power.

Oh, I agree, he's not that smart. He's already demonstrated that several times whether it's about the office he holds, or foreign affairs that he's going to oversee. It doesn't help that he's also a thin skinned narcissist, who does a lot of things for personnel reasons. And while I expect all politicians to be dishonest to some degree, it's a concern when they are incapable of telling the simplest of truths, and try to use alternative facts, while pedaling out conspiracy theories. You also want a president who heal the divide after a contentious election, not double down on partisan rhetoric, and insulting everyone out there, or clamping down various government departs with a gag order to stop posting to the public. Or making outlandish promises that no one with a brain knows he can deliver on. None of this is what you want in a president.

But, what concerns me the most is that I don't know who he is. 6 years ago, he was 180 degrees from where he is now on social issues, like abortion and guns. He talks about making America great again, but why is he further dividing it? Why is he alienating so many countries, where America sells products. He can't be this stupid to think there won't be any repercussion to himself and Republicans by turning everything upside down and pissing people off. As someone who used his TV reality show to promote his image, he should know all about image, and pissing people off, not just here in this country, but abroad, is not good for this country. He's even making Republicans nervous as he puts them into impossible situations. Sometimes I think he want to destroy the Republican party.

As David Brooks said on the PBS hour, no one really knows what Trump is. Is he an authoritarian Orwellian personality type, who is a master manipulator, or a 5 year old man-child who wants constant attention and admiration. No one knows for sure. He's done so much damage with his tweets to international affairs alone, and he should know better. What is his end game? It seems like he wants to run again, as he already tied down a slogan for his reelection. But, unless something happens, I just can't see him winning unless the Dems try to bring in another candidate worse than Clinton, who runs on "I'm Not Trump".

At 1/27/17 04:01 PM, Entice wrote: Trump is fucked if he thinks I'm gonna pay a dollar for a Jarritos
The tamarind flavor was the best :(

wtf! where do you get Jarritos for a dollar. it costs around 2 dollars here and I'm a few hours from the border

At 1/27/17 11:40 PM, EdyKel wrote:
But, what concerns me the most is that I don't know who he is. 6 years ago, he was 180 degrees from where he is now on social issues, like abortion and guns. He talks about making America great again, but why is he further dividing it? Why is he alienating so many countries, where America sells products. He can't be this stupid to think there won't be any repercussion to himself and Republicans by turning everything upside down and pissing people off. As someone who used his TV reality show to promote his image, he should know all about image, and pissing people off, not just here in this country, but abroad, is not good for this country. He's even making Republicans nervous as he puts them into impossible situations. Sometimes I think he want to destroy the Republican party.

that's part of his appeal though. Trump isn't a republican, that was just the best label to conform to for his campaign. (Allegedly) he's draining the swamp of the same coin that was Democratic-Republican corruption within the American government, and that's why many independents, and disenfranchised middle-class Obama voters ended up as Trump supporters opposed to Hillary/a third-party candidate/nobody. At best, Trump is strictly a Sunday-morning Christian; and I honestly don't think he could care any less about abortion, racial tension, gay marriage, or other social issues. So it was a smart move on Trump's part to elect and adopt the ideas of conservative Mike Pence, to pander to the more traditional conservatives (Gods, Guns, and Gays) as well that may have initially been more comfortable with a more established, conventionally qualified politician.