At 11/10/16 11:47 PM, naronic wrote:
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, the information is a simple google search away. She lost because of the electoral college vote. The people that "spoke" that faithful day (and there were not many of them) chose Hillary Clinton over Trump.
That may be, but Trump won more states, and in many of those states, the electors have to vote for the candidate that won their state by law. The problem lies is there is no consistency between one state and another when it comes to electors in the Electoral College and how should they vote in an election. Of course, that's no excuse for people to not understand the basics of our system, but the inconsistency is worth noticing.
The Electoral College chose Trump, just like the Electoral College chose Bush back in 2000, and we all know how that presidency went, don't we?
This isn't the first time this has happened, before 2000, nobody gave much thought about the EC before. Also remember that Bush before 9/11 and even early on the Iraq War, Bush was relatively popular and well-liked. It was only when the war started to bog down did his his popularity tailspin. There is a reason why we need to have the EC, but I'll get to that in a bit.
As a nation, we are now at the complete unbending mercy of the biggest moron to ever grace the face of politics. Sarah Palin is now being considered for a cabinet position. He's looking to reverse every single ounce of progress we've made on global warming. Meanwhile Pence will get working on destroying LGBT rights in America as we know it. The list goes on.
I think we should give him a chance, Trump is a lot of things, but I wouldn't put moron as one of them. Arrogant and an opportunitist, I'll give you that much, but you don't be as successful as he was by being an total idiot. By no means do I think that a lot of what he said wasn't awful, but what is said on the campaign trail is much different than what goes on in the White House, at least that is our hope.
But hey, at least we stopped TEH EVUL SJWZZ.
That's irrelevant, and as much as I do believe that SJWs need to be taken down a peg sometimes, a presidential election is something they have little control in.
To return to my earlier point, without the EC, states like New York and California would have far more sway and influence in our elections, which would leave states like Wyoming and Alaska virtually irrelevant due to their small populations, not to mention put more influence in cities with large metro populations. As much as we laud the democratic process, direct democracy with not without its pitfalls and the Founding Fathers knew this, that's why they put in safeguards like the EC and many other things in order to keep "the tyranny on the majority" at bay.
Bitch and piss at the EC all you want, but when you consider the alternatives, you should be a little thankful that we haven't descended into mob rule, under the guise of populist thinking like Europe did between the world wars, (Germany and Italy anyone?) and we all know what happened there after that. This is no excuse for folks to willfully ignore at least the basics of American civics and then turn around and whine when something they don't understand doesn't go their way.