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Trump/Hillary support banning games

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Trump: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/280812064539283457

Hillary: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d3GTJOZLaPY

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/hillary-clinton-promotes-law-to-ban-violent-video-games-1.550126

So...in all likelihood the next leader of the US will be in favor of banning video games.

Anything we can/should do?

Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-14 09:05:02


At 8/14/16 03:06 AM, zornuzkull wrote: Meh I can't see anyone banning games there is no proof that video games cause violence...
Just like comic books... D&D... And heavy metal don't cause violence...
These moral panics happen all the fucking time...
It's a very old script that has been reused a thousand times...
https://youtu.be/OuC5WYsDDZY

well, but it has worked before. like our prohibition and when they outlawed marijuana.

stupid people, of which there are many, will always be perfectly fine with restricting something if it means ignoring real causes and possibly self faults.


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Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-14 10:27:42


Not going to happen, video games are a multi-billion dollar industry, and not too many people are going to mess with them outside of moral panic stragglers who pop out when a controversial game shows up only to quickly be ignored. Really, this is a complete non-issue that wasn't much an issue to begin with, and only became an issue when they tried to tie mass shootings like Columbine with video games.

Frankly, the only politics that the VG industry should be concerned is their own, and gamers know how messy they can be when they choose to acknowledge it.


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Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-14 10:55:50


Of all the things to ban, they're considering video games? What a joke. I doubt it will happen though.

Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-14 13:39:36


To say Hillary wants to ban video games is a bit unfair, she wanted a law that would ban the sale of M and AO rated video games to children. I don't really agree with that either and you could argue slippery slope, but there is a big difference between what the headline says and the content of the article.

Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-14 15:51:02


Based your responses, my guess is none of yun's read the articles/watched the video.

The only ban was sale of adult games to childrens. Also, the most recent Hillary clip almost outdates my NG tenure. Almost.


I will admit i knew Hillary was against it before (didnt know she still held on that policy) but the fact that Trump is against it seems insane. Although to be fair there are lots of crappy games so i couldnt care less because they arent that creative anymore. So i wont really complain much if it happens.

I mean all games now is mostly FPS games of blowing stuff you want dead or just a cinematic movie turned into a game, its not actually engaging either way :P
Aslong as i can keep my PS1 games then i am all good.

Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-16 11:25:54


At 8/16/16 09:44 AM, Doge2 wrote: I will admit i knew Hillary was against it before (didnt know she still held on that policy) but the fact that Trump is against it seems insane. Although to be fair there are lots of crappy games so i couldnt care less because they arent that creative anymore. So i wont really complain much if it happens.

So your willing to ban games just because of an arbitrary standard? That exactly the kind of strategy that folks like Jack Thompson tried to use, and that didn't work. You can't be for something and then turn around and not care if it gets banned or not because of some arbitrary standard, otherwise it makes you a hypocrite. It would be no different if I said that I liked X's work because it is controversial, but I don't care for Y because it's "derivative" from X and should be banned.

Plus, there is the whole freedom of speech/expression thing.

I mean all games now is mostly FPS games of blowing stuff you want dead or just a cinematic movie turned into a game, its not actually engaging either way :P

Whether or not is engaging is irrelevant, not to mention that there is far more than FPS's out there, but for whatever reason, people can't seem to understand that, which is one of the reasons why I despise that argument. While gaming has gotten over the politics at the federal level, they can't seem to get over their own politics.


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Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-24 09:17:39


At 8/16/16 11:17 PM, Korriken wrote: I'll just leave this here.

Good thing the president has no ability to change the supreme court at all. Nope, none.

Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-26 01:11:59


George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama, have all spoken out against video games before. All of them. It is just a PR move if anything else. Nothing to get all wound up about.

Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-31 18:05:17


I don't know why people say "oh if you play GTA V you're going kill your family and rape little kids" I mean this is bull okay I don't know where the term of video games causing violence came from or the source that provided it. If that's the answer to every attack in the work it would just be "weird"


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Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-08-31 18:52:27


At 8/24/16 09:17 AM, Tybia99 wrote: Good thing the president has no ability to change the supreme court at all. Nope, none.

Sounds like somebody doesn't know what he's talking about.


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Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-09-02 19:25:00


At 8/31/16 06:52 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
At 8/24/16 09:17 AM, Tybia99 wrote: Good thing the president has no ability to change the supreme court at all. Nope, none.
Sounds like somebody doesn't know what he's talking about.

Okay fine, even if they don't I'm just not comfortable in a president willingly parroting a bullshit and unsupported fear mongering claim about video games.

Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-09-02 19:28:08


At 9/2/16 07:25 PM, Tybia99 wrote: Okay fine, even if they don't I'm just not comfortable in a president willingly parroting a bullshit and unsupported fear mongering claim about video games.

I do hope you get this worked up when they do it about way more effecting and important shit that HAS fucked shit up for people.


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Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-09-03 19:40:09


As far as I'm concerned there was never any actual proof that there is a positive correlation between people playing violent video games and those people becoming violent. All of that is a myth and the older generation of people don't seem to understand that.


At 8/13/16 11:31 PM, Tybia99 wrote: Trump: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/280812064539283457

Hillary: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d3GTJOZLaPY

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/hillary-clinton-promotes-law-to-ban-violent-video-games-1.550126

So...in all likelihood the next leader of the US will be in favor of banning video games.

Anything we can/should do?

Trump was just pandering. He has a tie-in GAME after all
As to the other, here's a better quality link
It was considered so bad at the time not even Jack Thompson would touch it. Also note the sort of language and hyperbole used, ever since polichickens found "children are the best defense against the actions of a scoundrel" they've come back to it again and again because "the midlands" are too damb ignorant to question what this or that law actually protects.

At 8/14/16 04:24 AM, lapis wrote: That Hillary clip is from, what, the 90s? Hasn't what she's proposing long since been enacted though, like E/T/M/A labels on Newgrounds submissions?

Regarding Trump, I wouldn't really take his tweets as indicative of his beliefs, assuming he has any. He has apparently already changed his mind on the issue. In fact, by the time anyone reads this post, he'll most likely have switched positions on this at least once.

2005. Just like with the "Defense of Marriage Act" she was against it before she was for it. She's a real flipper, which is why she's the more dangerous of the two (not to mention war-wacky) while Donald just says things for an immediate crowd then goes back to his old positions.

What a topsy-turvy election. The Republican is running as a Democrat and the Democrat is running as a Republican!
(and the DNC proved exactly why he was right to run as a republican!)

At 8/14/16 01:39 PM, Halberd wrote: To say Hillary wants to ban video games is a bit unfair, she wanted a law that would ban the sale of M and AO rated video games to children. I don't really agree with that either and you could argue slippery slope, but there is a big difference between what the headline says and the content of the article.

That was what South Korea said too...Also about porn, and their internet curfew. Slow boils, my friend! Not to mention she has a financial reason to do so as well, not just ideological! In fact I like to use that as a good example of where Merkel had planned to go too, until she blew herself up with the immigration fiasco. I can't find a more recent English link about it but it's since expanded to cover first college-aged (whether attending or not) young adults claiming staying up all night was causing them to underperform in their studies, and then to adults claiming they underperformed in work.
The curfew also since then interlinked with their alcohol laws, prohibiting foreigners from attending nightclubs as well.
I wish I could find an english breakdown of this but it's all in malay, korean, or japanese. But it's essentially what the "slippery slope" actually looks like in practice, not this silly crap repukes truck out with "Gays will marry their animals and children next, and then DEAD PEOPLE!" Allowing "community standards" to determine what is illegal pornography or not also leads this way, as visible in the case of Mike Diana. This is the secondary reason Clinton's record on 'censorship' is also dangerous.


Western media has descended to the level of Soviet media, pre-Glasnost, except the American people largely still drink from that poisoned well, thinking it provides "news."

Response to Trump/Hillary support banning games 2016-09-06 11:24:39


At 9/6/16 10:57 AM, OpusFreiling wrote: She's a real flipper, which is why she's the more dangerous of the two (not to mention war-wacky) while Donald just says things for an immediate crowd then goes back to his old positions.

lol yeah Donald Trump has shown remarkable consistency during his time on the campaign trail.


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