Newgrounds.com — Everything, By Everyone.

If you wanna lower crime don’t look at guns.
Look at people and education.
One of the biggest causes of crimes is our poorly created laws regarding drug use.
You spend more time in jail for having a bag of weed than you do from committing a rape.

That alone is why our country is more violent. People do not get punish harshly enough for violent acts. They are punished more for peacefully getting high.

That is also why other countries like Canada (also Amsterdam) have lower violence. The cops pretty much don't care if you get high. They do their jobs and go after criminals instead of wasting tax dollars on a war in your own country against innocence people. (stoners don't murder people!) (look at the stats!!)

---- If someone is robbing your house. If you do infact kill them you will more than likely spend time in jail. If the robber kills you...he very will might get away.... ¿¿¿¿Ironic????

(the laws in this country create more problems than they solve.)

It's true what they say about poor laws towards drugs, but nobody wants to hear your crap about being leniant towards it. Only other weed smokers will agree. It already is leniant as it is. Here in California, if you have under an ounce with you than it is just a ticket. If it is over, you serve a small sentence, depending on how much it is. If it is more like a pound than you have to go to court.

Justice is very blind. But fuck comparing us to other nations, I've met many police officers that are cool with weed as well. It depends on who it is.

Yeah seriously, most major cities have passed laws putting marijuana on the lowest priority, meaning that they are not supposed to bust people for it unless they're like puffing it away on the steps of the precinct or something blatant liek that.

Even though we all know that robberies aren't cause by guns, taking the guns away is a snae choice right now. You don't give a drunk diver his license back because the problem "isn't him driving, the problem is with a society that doesn't use DDs more often." If we cannot do anythnig right now to stop the reasons for violent crime, why should we give easy acces to the tools of violent crime? And then when we've fixed the glich in our soicety we can let guns be totally unrestricted again...

At 7/20/04 04:26 PM, Metal69hed wrote: Here in California, if you have under an ounce with you than it is just a ticket. If it is over, you serve a small sentence, depending on how much it is. If it is more like a pound than you have to go to court.

But here in NY, becasue of those motherfucking Rockerfellers, you get 20something for possesion. It sucks AZZ.

If you really want to end violent crime in America, you could simply execute all of the people under 25, that would almost completely eliminate all violent crimes.

GOOD LUCK! Execute people under 25... Maybe the people that keep getting in and out of court, but not the ones that are decent. :P Besides I am too valuable to my company. I am there most underpaid paperweight.

Makes two of us spookshow.

t-53 and counting!

At 7/17/04 02:31 AM, theburningliberal wrote: While it may be true that those who truly want the weapons can still get them, it prevents the casual criminal from having them. During the ban, you couldn't walk into Larry's Gun Shop and buy an AK-47, thus removing them from the range of weapons a casual criminal might have access to. The supporters of the law knew it wouldn't stop serious criminals, but they hoped to make some sort of impact on casual crimes involving assault weapons. And they did.

I dont normally join a new forum to flame. In this case I joined to post and clarify something here. I respect your right to state your opinions, but please at least keep them factually based. I will simply state the facts.

"During the ban, you couldn't walk into Larry's Gun Shop and buy an AK-47, thus removing them from the range of weapons a casual criminal might have access to."

Well, I am not sure what part of the world you live in, but in the US, that statement is simply NOT true. I do part time work in a FFL gun store. I attend Gun Shows and sell Military related toys. The gun store legally sells semi-automatic AK-47's , brand new in the box, manufactured in Russia, and legally imported into the country by Robinson Arms. They sold 3 last week. At the Gun Shows I see other FFL's selling semi AK-47's of brand new manufacture. One of my best friends just bought a brand new AK-47 from a FFL with a 'post-ban' 10 round magazine less than a month ago. Obviously, all of this happened during the ban. Obviously AK-47's are still readily available. There will be no "flood of automatic weapons hitting the streets". The guns never went away. The AWB affected semi-automatics, not Full Auto's which have been regulated since before most of us were alive.

The Attorney General has even stated that the AWB did not affect a criminals ability to purchase any of the 19 weapons affected by the ban. As a matter of fact, due to the fact that a criminal does not care about the law, they have NEVER been unable to obtain a gun, of any type, ever. The AWB didnt even fart in the general direction of restricting criminal access to firearms.

A criminal and a law abiding citizen can leave the same house at the same time with the intent of returning as fast as possible with a gun. The criminal will return first, the same day, armed with a weapon. The law abiding citizen will return with a receipt. And will lose the contest by 3 days. The 'casual' law abiding citizen is the one that is restricted from buying a gun. The criminals arent affected by laws. Crooks dont obey the laws that say robbery is illegal, so what do they care about a law that restricts guns? Like the bumper sticker says "If you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have them."

an "assult weapon" is no more dangerous than any other semi-auto.

At 6/21/04 11:25 PM, Noctroler wrote: Guns are tools of murder. Period. They have no other function. The only solution to this conflict is to invent more effective forms of Non-Leathal weapons as forms of personal self defense. Guns that drop an intruded or assailant hard, but don't kill.

I thought there was already a sort of personal defence weapon out that does just that, like a tazer or something. It fires two needles connected by wire, that electrify a target and knock him out.
Downside: $2500 AUS.

Oh and since 1997 (I think) most semi-automatics/guns of any kind have been banned here (Tasmania, Australia). There was a massacre at Port Arthur and I think about 20 people died. So guns of any kind, essentially, are forbidden.
Handguns have recently been banned from sale Australia wide. But it's not as if people buy them legally. If you know the right people... well, need I say more?

That's what I keep trying to say. If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have them.

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."

--Adolf Hitler, 1935

Makes you think doesn't it?

At 6/21/04 04:59 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: Tell me, what do you do with an assault weapon? Hunt rabbits?

Hehe, hey jackass, you have no grounds to decide if assault weapons are bad or not because you've never shot a gun in your life, so butt the fuck out. Guess what? It is ok to use an AK-47 for hunting deer because by Michigan law, and most other state laws permit only 3 rounds in the rifle at a time. WOOOOOOOOOOO! I bet you didn't know that. And since the AK is a RIFLE, it can be used for hunting, and since you've never hunted in your life, you wouldn't know, so shut the fuck up. I bet you do drugs, and think they are perfectly fine to do and have in this country, well you're wrong.

Some people don't have the luxury or courage to fire a gun... Kind of harsh but true. Also 8 WEEKS LEFT!!!

At 7/23/04 08:38 AM, WorldOutkast wrote: Oh and since 1997 (I think) most semi-automatics/guns of any kind have been banned here (Tasmania, Australia). There was a massacre at Port Arthur and I think about 20 people died. So guns of any kind, essentially, are forbidden.
Handguns have recently been banned from sale Australia wide. But it's not as if people buy them legally. If you know the right people... well, need I say more?

Criminals are just manufacturing them on their own now!

http://www.theage.com.au/artic...90464799535.html?oneclick=true

In places like the UK, people are building full autos. In Russia they dig them up from old battlegrounds. Extremely unsafe, we won't really just roll over.

7 WEEKS!!! WOOHOO!!!

Obviously control isn't gonna work... And any weapon is only as dangerous as the person holding it. 7 week to what SS?

You're right. A car can be used as an EXTREMELY deadly weapon. 7 weeks until the death of the so called Assualt weapons ban and HR 2038.

Wow, that's crazy. You only have to be 18 to purchase a rifle, right?

Yep but if HR 2038 goes through the best you'll be able to get is a single shot bolt.

Heh bolt models tend to be a tick more accurate, clip loaders usually can be modified to auto

At 7/29/04 11:13 PM, witeshark wrote: Heh bolt models tend to be a tick more accurate, clip loaders usually can be modified to auto

Yeah bolts are more accurate... So? If you can't use a weapon for SEVERAL reasons then why own one? Also modyfing a semi auto to full is:

Stupid
Illegal
Stupid
Hard as heck
Dangerous
etc...

It offers NO advantages.

All true, but I see as facts good to know - no such thing as too much weapon information

I've got enough in my head to write a book. One of the greatest tools of ANY political party is disinformation. That's why I started posting. To let people know that despite what they thought were being banned and the truth.

At 7/29/04 11:18 PM, Spookshow wrote:

At 7/29/04 11:13 PM, witeshark wrote: Heh bolt models tend to be a tick more accurate, clip loaders usually can be modified to auto

Yeah bolts are more accurate... So? If you can't use a weapon for SEVERAL reasons then why own one? Also modyfing a semi auto to full is:

Stupid

yes

Illegal

usually

Stupid

double yes

Hard as heck

wrong, conversion for, example, an AR15 to an M16 is 1 part, that's all, maybe 2 if you want A2 trigger set. it is not hard

Dangerous

not really

etc...

It offers NO advantages.

not quite true... a 3 round burst has it's uses, but in general yes

ANNOUNCEMENT:
Though there may be 7 whole weeks left before the ban ends, I would like to let everyone know that there are only 7 days left in the senate (sept 7-13) before the ban expires, not that that bitch Feinstein would have any chance of getting enough support to renew it anyway in the now republican-controlled house.

With a Republican Congress, it's doubtful that the ban will be renewed.

At 7/30/04 02:47 AM, Einzelgaenger wrote:

Illegal

usually

Always for a private individual.

Hard as heck

wrong, conversion for, example, an AR15 to an M16 is 1 part, that's all, maybe 2 if you want A2 trigger set. it is not hard

Actually:

Hammer, sear, trigger, bolt carrier several springs. Not to mention the new recievers they use. And we were talking about AKs anyway.

Dangerous

not really

So screwing with a weapons firing system is safe?

It offers NO advantages.

not quite true... a 3 round burst has it's uses, but in general yes

I don't know of any uses for my FAL to be 3sb. The only three weapons I could think of EVER needed it are: Sub-gun, AK-74, M-16. Even the US Army tends not to use it.