At 6/10/16 01:10 AM, TylerFromTexas wrote: If I have the time this weekend, I was gonna write the brownies in white icing that says "I have a dream...", or maybe draw the American Flag.

You know, something that can piss him off.

The South African flag would be better in that case.

At 6/5/16 09:51 PM, TylerFromTexas wrote: There's a theory that they have different features due to the climate. Asians tolerate colder weather better while blacks tolerate warmer weather better. Whites tend to fall in the middle.

Other than that though, there isn't any differences. Cultures and where they grew up in greatly effects their judgement and actions, and this can affect ANY race.

Why can't he make the argument that a certain race with certain cultural behaviors are inherently 'inferior'?
For example if there was a country that actively practiced genital mutilation, human sacrifice, had barbaric laws, encouraged rape, murder, etc, now imagine it was only followed by one or two races, wouldn't you rightfully claim that not only those cultures but their races would be rightfully inferior to more civil people? A race's general mentality has some hand in how their particular culture evolves.

At the same time though, you believe your race is superior. You can't weasel out of this one by denouncing you're part of a hate group simply because you don't advocate violence towards others (I.E. Westboro Baptist Church).

Feel free to correct me OP.
I think he finds whites are 'superior' than blacks and asians on some ways and they're also 'inferior' in others, i'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Segregation is probably one of the biggest factors why they're still issues regarding performance in education between races.

The environment a race has lived in for thousands of years and adapted to probably has a tad more to do with one's performances at school than the intimidate situation it finds itself in and it's recent history.
Just saying.
That's not to say that every black fails school, every white goes and has a regular job or every asian becomes a doctor but it has to account for something.

Not to mention that minorities are more likely to be in the lower class than whites, which results in them committing more crimes on average.

Whites are a minority in South Africa and always have been yet blacks have always been incarcerated a lot more often.

Slavery, racism, and segregation presented them with a difficult lifestyle that's not easy to get out of, and you're saying segregation is the answer? Really?

Serfs used to be a thing, until what? Late 1800's? Yet Russians and Eastern Europeans don't seem to struggle with it any longer.
Complete segregation between the races isn't the right thing to do, though.

Brainwashed? Are you fucking serious? If anything, you're being brainwashed by being a part of the white supremacy.

How can you be so certain you're not the one being brainwashed?
In theory if any of us were then we wouldn't know about it... you're just as likely as him to have been indoctrinated into something you didn't believe in, as am i.

Let's spin this around. You're too afraid to interact with someone other than your race, so you cling on to your group of friends of your own skin color, thus you develop this mindset that "all other races are genetically bad because stereotypes".

Making a lot of assumptions here.

Europeans may have invented more things, but that comes with education and resources.

So even though they were thousands of times more educated than Africans, that still doesn't mean they're genetically smarter?

Did Africa back in the day had that kind of education or resources (resources being even more important) to revolutionize something? This has nothing to do with race.

Africa had and still has plenty of resources, they just had no fucking clue how to make use of them like Europeans did with what they got dealt with.
And what exactly kind of resources did Africa lack that were oh so crucial for their primitive state?

Also, the media has its share of making blacks look bad, but I guess that's ok because it's ALWAYS true, right?

Personally never witnessed any of this myself but if you can link me to some videos of advertisements, tv shows, movies or whatever that do such things, i'll believe you.

I'm just gonna leave this photo here... guess who I am in the picture?

From your NG icon i'd say you have dark skin (unless my monitor is totally whacked right now, in which case i'd say you're that smiling white kid with glasses on the right) and support glasses, uhhhhh i'd say you're the black dude near the back/at the back on the right side of the screen, the one who looks to be smiling and is behind that black chick with what appears to be a pink cloth (?) on her hair.

I'm not sure if i fucked up the quoting with this post, i'm fairly tired at the moment so if any quotes from you re missing then now you know why.

At 6/11/16 03:57 AM, TylerFromTexas wrote: I never said he could. What gave you that impression?

Might've worded it wrong, what i meant was something along the lines of "Can't he make the claim that some cultures with inherently bad traditions mean they're inferior?" then was probably gonna go on a tangent about the culture's origin and how it has to do in some part with particular differences between two races, for example.

Not necessarily, because once said race is placed in a different cultural environment (starting at birth mind you), they'll grow up with a much different lifestyle.

If they're raised by someone, like hosts or a family that already partakes in said culture to adapt to it, yeah i agree but has there ever been any sort of studies where a family is placed in a totally different environment and was forced to adapt by themselves? Don't think there ever will be because it sounds unethical but i think it could be interesting and what i think would happen would be that foreign family would have their own customs, values and ideals which the child would learn, and those traits would differ from the environment they had been placed in.

I don't think so. It's only been roughly sixty years since Brown vs. Board of Education ruled that segregation in schools were unconstitutional, which before then affected many generations of former slaves from getting a proper education. Hell, after the Civil War,

I'll have to point to the serfs once again who weren't allowed to get educated, read, were considered property by their masters, had punishments carried out on them, were worth less than animals in some cases and while they were allowed to collect their own wealth they still had to pay heavy taxes.
Plus it dates back to way before European's enslavement of african slaves and only ended around the same time, hence it affected more generations of individuals, most modern russians are descendant of serfs, in fact.

getting the same economic opportunity back then (and in some cases today) was incredibly difficult due to racism.

I find it a bit hard to believe that there are cases today where blacks get discriminated against, but I'm not an American so this may just be some ignorance on my part, I'm aware there is an equal pay act for women that dates back to somewhere in the 60's, i assumed there were other laws that passed at least since then that prevented discrimination in the work force, while asking for a loan and etc, right?
And if there isn't I'd like to know if there's some reason for it not existing? It may simply be that it's implied on everyone's constitutional rights but isn't enforced by an actual law, i dunno. Hopefully you can clarify this for me if you have the time.

Both are true, but you left out the fact that the whites in South Africa are much better off than the blacks, and I've already explained how lower classes are more likely to commit crime. History wasn't too kind to them either, since the European Settlers discovered gold and diamonds in the region.

**anecdotal evidence coming through**
I live in a pretty poor neighborhood, which in itself is a part of the poorest towns in the country, we are slowly (ever since maybe 10 years ago) becoming more white but not getting any better financially, we're all pretty much low class and there are maybe 2-3 blacks living in it (the neighborhood) at the moment. We have a much smaller crime rate than all mostly black neighborhoods in the same conditions who live in the capital, the capital is far richer (even though they're in debt but let's not get into that) so they have an edge over us in terms of public services for example.
And in the US, aren't mostly poor black neighbourhoods crime-ridden ghettos while poor white are usually trailer parks who mind their own business?
That isn't definitive proof that race=crime but i believe it shows that culture has an impact and those cultures developed differently from eachother because the people who set the building blocks for them were of a different mentality.
**anecdotal evidence done**

Brainwash is a funny word, isn't it? What makes us different from the OP though is that we at least provide sources for our arguments, which the OP has not done so.

I should put some sources on this post, actually. But it's hard enough to do this all on my phone. If there's anything you'd like me to back-up from this post just say and I'll try and do so in my follow-up.

The environment, culture, and what was available at the time greatly affects their judgement and reasoning. If a white person were to be raised by an African Tribe, I'm sure the outcome would be nearly identical.

But where does culture come from? I believe it originates from different mentalities and the people who subsequently follow them share the same basic way of thinking. So if a group of people doesn't think it's necessary to make the next generation more informed then they probably don't value intelligence nearly as much as people who put effort into educating their offspring.
And IQ tests show predominantly white and oriental countries score much higher than indigenous, arab and hispanic ones.
Took me like 5 minutes to try and post that link on this damn phone, if it doesn't work i'll be upset.

They do have basic resources like trees, water, and stones, but when you have the Chinese inventing Gun Powder with materials not found in Africa (and not to mention what Europeans were able to invent to spark an Industrial Revolution), it has led me to believe that resources and what they've learned from several generations can make or break for a better lifestyle.

That's very debatable though, so perhaps we could agree to disagree?

Ok we can let this one drop but I just wanna make one point. What was stopping native blacks from sailing the seas and acquire gun powder, make trades and economies based on exchanges with kingdoms and empires before anyone else? Africa has a greater reach of sea than Europe has and more of their land is touching water than Europe as well.

It's more subtle than obvious, but the biggest offense I've found in recent history was just after Hurricane Katrina. One source reported whites"finding" food from a flooded grocery store, while another source reported blacks "looting" a grocery store. Source.

Hm, that does seem weird but were they taken and described by the same person? If not we could also safely assume that it can be two people's different perspectives of what was happening.

Let's not forget back many decades ago, we had cartoons that's considered very offensive today.

Yes but those are like you said, considered very offensive today, to me it shows how much more tolerant we now are compared to yesteryear.

I don't think you've spotted me. I'm actually the white guy on the far right with no glasses wearing what I think was a black polo or leather jacket (I can't remember).

Mm, must've missed ya, it's even harder to spot you now on such a small screen.

Thank you for providing a much better argument than what the OP provided so far by the way.

Part of me thinks he was just doing it on purpose to rile people up but we do share some of the same ideas (assuming of course he believes all races have positives and negatives) so i felt like trying to give a much tamer response and see where it would go.

At 6/6/16 12:11 AM, TylerFromTexas wrote:

At 6/5/16 11:39 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 6/5/16 09:51 PM, TylerFromTexas wrote: I'm just gonna leave this photo here... guess who I am in the picture?

Guy in the back row who's too short to be in the back row?

Nope. Try again!

The white guy behind the girl with the pink hat?

Can I join this thread? I like cake and brownies and stuff...

oh look this thread has racism too.

from an objective point what is the difference between regular old National socialism and the good ol factory made nazi kind? or are the philosophies one in the same?

Wew these posts are getting long, if we reach the point where the thread is super derailed or character limits start showing up I'd be happy to switch to PMs, just gimme the word if you need to.

At 6/11/16 01:50 PM, TylerFromTexas wrote: I don't know much about the serfs, but were they given literally the exact same treatment once it ended, or did they struggle to gain more rights like what happened during the Civil Rights Movement?

Wikipedia seems to give the most complete explanation on the aftermath of it, at least from a quick Google search, but there doesn't seem to be that many articles or data dumps about serfdom as there are for black slavery. Also, note that this reform entry is only for Russia which i think it's more relevant since most modern Russians are descendants of serfs.

Seems that while they were freed, they were taxed highly forcing them to sell what little they produced for their survival and they also weren't given nearly enough land to last on their own, causing several revolts that ended in deaths of the former slaves.
Can't say for sure if this compares to the Civ Rights movement since i was never properly educated on it, neither at school nor on my own interest but as you can see, former serfs didn't have it easy.
I'm also assuming there was some sort of discrimination that lasted for at least a few generations, much like with blacks and asians in the US.

Much of it is subtle again. It's not like there's blatant racism that still exist like a sore thumb (but Trump and his supporters are testing my mindset everyday),

Not all of us are bad, i'm being rather civil, no?

but there was a study that was presented at college that brings up the issue (unfortunately I don't have the source for it this time, so you don't have to take my word for it on this one).

The study was conducted to see if race does matter when it comes to getting a job. Three people of the same background, experience, and degree applied for the same jobs. They only differ in race; white, black, and Hispanic. They performed exactly the same at every interview, and the results were that the white guy was offered the job more than Hispanic guy, but the Hispanic guy were offered the job more than the black guy (though I'll stress that the black guy still had job offers).

I bet if an asian was put into the mix he'd get more offers than all of the combined.
Hell, even i'd feel more inclined to hire one over a white, hispanic or black person and i'm white. They're just usually for efficient.

Hispanics and blacks from what I've gathered growing up has this negative stigma because of their skin color. Hispanics have the negative stigma of being an illegal alien, while blacks have the negative stigma of being a criminal.

The best way to counter those bad reputations is by going the complete different route, not following it. If those people end up resorting to crime for example, just because they're accused of being criminals, then they were always criminals no matter what.

It gets more complicated than that. Maybe I need to explain that there are many factors into how someone will act when someone is being raised, but how's your family structure in general?

Raised by a single mom, older sister, grandma on my mother's side and my uncle until i was like, 8 years old, then he moved out to another town.

What kind of music do you listen to?

Pretty punk-ish and metal sometimes, usually from pretty liberal bands like Ska-P, Bad Religion, etc.

Who are your role models?

I guess no one? Besides stuff I watched on TV i didn't really look up to anyone or anything in particular.

One thing I will admit is that blacks in general have different taste in music than what we would listen to. I just think of how parents are raising their kids, and what they'll let them get away with.

Mmmm, yeah black people usually like rap, hip hop, RnB and pop more than others but music comes in fads, in the 90's i've been told that hip hop was the most popular style around my town and then in the early to late 2000's it came back, now it seems electronic and dubstep are all the rage.

You would think, but I've seen many white inmates come in and out of the jail (I used to work in corrections a year ago).

Wouldn't that have more to do with whites being a majority?

Once again the stigma that blacks get can affect the outcome of them being arrested or just ticketed. Since it's true that blacks in the US are more likely to commit a crime, the police are more likely to profile them as criminals during a stop. Not saying this is a common occurrence, but it could explain why there have been more reports of criminal activity among blacks than whites.

Oh this reminds, i heard this just recently but didn't some deputy in New York in the 60-80's start doing stop and frisk campaigns for a while and didn't it manage to work really well? The stat i heard from it was 1 in every 10 people who were searched were found to be culprits of some crime and got detained. I really don't remember where i heard this from but i'll try and find it by looking through my browser history.
If you do know about what the hell i'm talking about and agree that the statistic is correct then wouldn't you agree that racial profile works? A 1 out of 10 chance is pretty damn high.

At 6/11/16 02:06 PM, TylerFromTexas wrote: I hate to say, but the link doesn't work.

Fuck. Well now i'm on the laptop so it's easier to copy paste stuff.
I'll just upload the graphic with this post and link the site i got it from, here: https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

Valuing intelligence I can buy though. They lived a lifestyle for so long that they'll more than likely to continue it down the road. I still think that if a baby of a different race were to be adopted by someone from a different culture and background that the outcome will be much of the same (though IQ could differ as they are inherited).

Rain forests and the Sahara Desert were literal Natural Blockage from the rest of the world, so communicating to the outside world back before colonization would be next to impossible (at least from what I understand). I think you mention you live in South Africa, so maybe you have better knowledge of that?

Gods no, I'm European, i couldn't be paid enough to live there even if i was desperate. South Africa was just an example i mentioned before because of their known racial dynamics, what with whites always having been a minority and etc. It's also what I assumed would be easier to find, I doubt i'd have much luck looking for proper stats of Botswana.
But back on the subject, i mean sailing the seas. I know for a fact that you don't need to be a rich kingdom from the start to build ships and explore the oceans, i should know since it's how my country got rich in the first place.

Not by the same person, and it's only one example. Have you've noticed that when a Muslim attacks something it's automatically terrorism, while when a white guy attacks something it's just a deranged criminal? The media likes to jump the gun and say is this when the investigation isn't complete.

I'm not saying that suicide bombers aren't mentally ill, some of them obviously are for the shit they do while most of them were just unfortunately brainwashed (oh no not this again) but when muslims do terrorists attack they usually do it for their religion, when whites do it it's indeed because they have some serious mental issues they can't cope with.
But i don't really get your point, are you saying that if a muslim attacks for example a homosexual it shouldn't be considered terrorism or a hate crime?

At least you don't automatically denounce someone based on race (at least from what I gathered from you so far); you judge based on character and personality am I right?

Don't wanna say yes because i feel that makes me sound like i'm all high and mighty but yeah, i guess that's a way to put it.

At 6/11/16 11:42 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: from an objective point what is the difference between regular old National socialism and the good ol factory made nazi kind? or are the philosophies one in the same?

Normie answer: THEY'RE ALL THE SAME SHIT AAAAAAAHH

Rational answer: National socialism invokes love and pride for one's country, basically love your heritage and don't consider yourself a special snowflake of an individual, what matters is that you help your country advance and grow. Hitler just took it too far and made a cult of personality that destroyed millions.

Redpilled answer: They're the same but told from different perspectives. Hitler did nothing wrong. Yadda yadda.

If you wanna read more on their values, Understanding NatSoc.

At 6/11/16 02:23 PM, TylerFromTexas wrote:

At 6/11/16 10:46 AM, Neoslayre wrote: Can I join this thread? I like cake and brownies and stuff...

oh look this thread has racism too.

By all means, come on in! What's your favorite dessert, my good sir?

Probably the Bavarian pizza from where I work. I'm actually enjoying some right now. Although if we're including breakfast/dessert foods then definitely glazed donut holes! Specifically the ones frm this diner in my town.

At 6/11/16 03:57 PM, Radaketor wrote:

At 6/11/16 11:42 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

Normie answer: THEY'RE ALL THE SAME SHIT AAAAAAAHH

Rational answer: National socialism invokes love and pride for one's country, basically love your heritage and don't consider yourself a special snowflake of an individual, what matters is that you help your country advance and grow. Hitler just took it too far and made a cult of personality that destroyed millions.

Redpilled answer: They're the same but told from different perspectives. Hitler did nothing wrong. Yadda yadda.

If you wanna read more on their values, Understanding NatSoc.

Thank you because I couldn't believe it's all about the nazi Iabel of national socialism I'll look up that link when I get home

At 6/11/16 03:57 PM, Radaketor wrote:

At 6/11/16 11:42 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: from an objective point what is the difference between regular old National socialism and the good ol factory made nazi kind? or are the philosophies one in the same?

There is literally no such thing as "regular old national socialism" because National Socialism (Nationalsozialismus) is a specific ideology adopted originally by Nazi Germany. There have been counties that were nationalistic and had socialist principles (the USSR under Stalin, Italy under Mussolini, etc) but it would be erroneous to refer to their ideology as NatSoc, because NatSoc is by definition Nazism.

At 6/11/16 05:30 PM, Feoric wrote:

At 6/11/16 03:57 PM, Radaketor wrote:

There is literally no such thing as "regular old national socialism" because National Socialism (Nationalsozialismus) is a specific ideology adopted originally by Nazi Germany. There have been counties that were nationalistic and had socialist principles (the USSR under Stalin, Italy under Mussolini, etc) but it would be erroneous to refer to their ideology as NatSoc, because NatSoc is by definition Nazism.

So they made and took the brand for themselves? I thought it was just a political ideology that got hijacked by the Nazis seems like I'm learning stuff today.

Not a cake of course but my fiancée makes a mean white chocolate and raspberry creme brulee

At 6/11/16 05:39 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: So they made and took the brand for themselves? I thought it was just a political ideology that got hijacked by the Nazis seems like I'm learning stuff today.

Nope, the term "National Socialism" refers specifically to Nazi Germany. Anyone who pretends otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

At 6/11/16 05:46 PM, 123-er wrote: Not a cake of course but my fiancée makes a mean white chocolate and raspberry creme brulee

Oh, of course it's white chocolate. Another racist spotted.

At 6/11/16 06:02 PM, Feoric wrote: Nope, the term "National Socialism" refers specifically to Nazi Germany. Anyone who pretends otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

Even if we agree with the other definition....we see within a second or two of thought how easy it is to turn it into a hateful ideology: "I have pride in my country and want it to grow...and it would, if only we could get rid of (insert race/religion/ethnicity/people with a specific trait here). Those fuckers are clearly the problem holding us back. Not you good folks that have shown up to hear my message, you guys are the REAL (insert nationationality here)! NOW LET'S GO GET 'EM!!!"

If that caused you to have a fearful reaction in your stomach based on your country's current leadership, or those who are looking to get into the position of same....well, hopefully that shows you what to do about such people. Just say "fuck NO!"

At 6/11/16 06:02 PM, Feoric wrote:

At 6/11/16 05:46 PM, 123-er wrote: Not a cake of course but my fiancée makes a mean white chocolate and raspberry creme brulee

Oh, of course it's white chocolate. Another racist spotted.

Damn you sussed me out!

Rugelach forever, fascism never.

Two points, people who say Jewish isn't a race, unless you're being extremely technical in your definition of race [Which isn't terribly helpful given how it's used elsewhere]

If 'race' is a mere social construct, then a Jewish Race seems as valid as a White one. An Arab, Syrian, or Turkish Muslim who converts to christianity is called an Arab-Christian, or Turkish or Syrian Christian not a Muslim Christian. If he becomes an Atheist, he's not a Muslim-Atheist. Those who are Jewish who are atheists continue to identify as Jewish, and the state of Israel recognizes birthright citizenship even of Jewish Atheists.

I lived in a town that was Majority Jewish for about 18 years of my life. [I point this out because I probably would have a much worse opinion of them as a people if I didn't have as much personal experience with them as I did]. The ones I spoke to most definitely regarded their Jewishness as a kind of ethnic heritage. And they explained to me that they as Jews largely did not intermarry with non-jews for a very long time. Not long enough to generate the kinds of differences you observe between East Asians, Africans, and Europeans, but enough that jewish ancestry can be traced genetically.

Perhaps they've been indoctrinated with Nazi propaganda, or perhaps they have a point.

If race doesn't suit you, then you're more then welcome to use the softer designation of ethno-religious group.

Disaspora Jews* heavily represented in multicultural advocacy and cultural leftism whilst Zionist** Jews seem hell bent on getting the US involved in every middle east conflict even as non-jewish republican voters who were once War Hawks have become extremely war-weary. It also no doubt surprises many conservatives when they realize these American Israelis who advocate for a state predicated on preserving the Jewish people [understood as a heritable] Balk at the idea of a Trump Wall. Israel is the closest living practitioner of to National Socialism if you set aside the animosity that Nationalists have in particular for Diaspora Jews.

It shouldn't surprise anyone when you take these two facts and mix them up with ISIS and the recent Migrant Crisis [plus the anti-jewish feelings of Muslims] that interest in Hitler and National Socialism is on the rise. It's also likely due to the fact that when Journalists and talking heads make racists out of literally everyone, they coincidentally make racists out of everyone.

Also with all due respect, I don't give much mind to the "Not all [X] Are Like That" line -- I'm talking about average behaviors which describe groups well enough that people are capable of recognizing them. I'm fine with having a pattern contradicted by aggregate data, but anecdotes don't do it for me.

*Those living outside of Israel who probably identify as liberal or progressive and believe the best way to protect the Jewish people is to tear

** Jews living in Israel or have Dual Citizenship and are intensely dedicated to preserving the state of israel at all costs

At 6/23/16 07:44 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Two points, people who say Jewish isn't a race, unless you're being extremely technical in your definition of race [Which isn't terribly helpful given how it's used elsewhere]

So, Pastafaries are a race as well?

At 6/23/16 07:44 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Two points, people who say Jewish isn't a race, unless you're being extremely technical in your definition of race [Which isn't terribly helpful given how it's used elsewhere]

If 'race' is a mere social construct, then a Jewish Race seems as valid as a White one. An Arab, Syrian, or Turkish Muslim who converts to christianity is called an Arab-Christian, or Turkish or Syrian Christian not a Muslim Christian. If he becomes an Atheist, he's not a Muslim-Atheist. Those who are Jewish who are atheists continue to identify as Jewish, and the state of Israel recognizes birthright citizenship even of Jewish Atheists.

I lived in a town that was Majority Jewish for about 18 years of my life. [I point this out because I probably would have a much worse opinion of them as a people if I didn't have as much personal experience with them as I did]. The ones I spoke to most definitely regarded their Jewishness as a kind of ethnic heritage. And they explained to me that they as Jews largely did not intermarry with non-jews for a very long time. Not long enough to generate the kinds of differences you observe between East Asians, Africans, and Europeans, but enough that jewish ancestry can be traced genetically.

This depends, because Jews look different depending on where they came from. Jews from Europe look pretty European, Jews from the Middle East look pretty Middle Eastern and Jews from Sub Saharan Africa look pretty black. This is actually an issue within Israel since it's founding; how Jews of different origins interact. There was alot of discrimination from Ashkenazi Jews who held much of the power (that is Jews from Europe), against MIzrahi Jews (that is Middle Eastern Jews) who were poorer yet made up the majority of the population. Complicating this was the racist Israeli policy of sterilizing Jews from Eritrea and Ethiopia because they were reproducing too much. So I don't think it's that easy to say that Jews are a race.

Perhaps they've been indoctrinated with Nazi propaganda, or perhaps they have a point.

If race doesn't suit you, then you're more then welcome to use the softer designation of ethno-religious group.

That is much more accurate.

Disaspora Jews* heavily represented in multicultural advocacy and cultural leftism whilst Zionist** Jews seem hell bent on getting the US involved in every middle east conflict even as non-jewish republican voters who were once War Hawks have become extremely war-weary. It also no doubt surprises many conservatives when they realize these American Israelis who advocate for a state predicated on preserving the Jewish people [understood as a heritable] Balk at the idea of a Trump Wall. Israel is the closest living practitioner of to National Socialism if you set aside the animosity that Nationalists have in particular for Diaspora Jews.

What? Israel does not even try to do that. If they did they would've outlawed all parties except for one (I'm guessing Likud would be the only remaining one), taken over all of their corporations, have one national Synagogue and liturgy, established a cult of personality i.e. a whole lot of things they haven't done. It's better to argue that Russia or Turkey are because in Russia only Putin's party remains in power due to electoral fraud, he jails businessmen who disagree with him etc. etc. and in Turkey civil rights have been clamped down on, the government approves of religious leaders and has unleashed hell on its Kurds. Give Israel some credit at least they try.

I've lived in some white power kind of neighborhoods here in the states but from what I've experienced, there could be a little misconception about them. I would not say that these places are Utopias driving the white race forward into the future, at least not the ones I've seen. They are usually lower income whites, sometimes next to another lower income minority. They don't like them and most likely don't like the slightly higher income whites down the street either. They might refer to them as 'rich kids' and kinda snarl a little when they say it.

Some of them may not be able to read or at least not very well. I'd just assume the ones with swat's and such got them in prison. They didn't let schools tell them what to do. They don't let authority tell them what to do. Trust me, they aren't going to let anyone come in and tell them what they should do. It doesn't matter if you come in with some friends with full nazi gear, all they are going to care about is how tough you are. You can say you're tough and not scared but they're gonna wanna know. They might just take your shit just to see what you do about it. Ya can't expect anyone to call the cops. If you pull a gun you will probably be outgunned real quick, they might even be able to break it down and tell ya how many shots are left, maybe make ya a better one. You'd be better off walking down the street in a pink feather bola but being able to carry yourself than trying to blend in with racist apparel.

Don't get me wrong they might do amazing things with their hands and intuition. Rebuilding engines. Take broken stuff and make it look like it was new. That might have been their childhood tho', they might also be at least partially illiterate.

There might be whole families on blocks like that too. In the end you may see some of the same issues with a lower income minority neighborhood, just a different flavor. They have their own problems and no one including the media really cares.

I don't think you're going to get the perks of being around many white power kinda people and not having to live in a neighborhood like that. I could be wrong but I just can't see it. If you do then I imagine that these are just the kind of people you will have to deal with, eventually.

I could see them pounding someone's face that insisted they do something, start a movement, (in their opinion) whined too much or even read too much. Some of them will run their mouth every time and not care if they wake up in the hospital. They might shoot someone in the face and do several years without thinking twice about it. (sound familiar?)

I guess my point is that they are out there. They have politically motivated people sprinkled among them. I'm sure your views aren't likely to be news to them. They could very well just not care. In spite of that they could have smack flooding the place. A poor white neighborhood where at least some people don't or can't afford take care of themselves , as it is, does not help that.

I guess the question is..Is it worth it to abandon where you come from, your own culture, to live in a place like that and/or associate with those people? If your dogma is non-violence then I would just assume not.

It may seem like whites are becoming a bunch of whiny bitches. Compared to these people I guess they kinda are but at least ya have choice. Something to think about?

I don't see it as good or bad myself. It just is what it is. You can hate it, love it, glorify it, it doesn't matter. Until something becomes an immediate problem, at least in their eyes, I'd think that they likely just don't care.

There might be more to it than that but anything else I tend to just see as a buncha angry white boys with some nerd rage. It's like we thirst for culture, like it was sex or something. Maybe something to belong too. Something that makes us feel special. I feel it's been inbred and kept black and white for so long. I'd rather just see people make up imaginary cultures or fuck even some micronations. Something different, even if it's just in their own backyard. Ya'd think mix bloods and half breeds would be the first to see the flaws but it's like they get sucked up in that shit too. Then you're just a pawn fulfilling someone's agenda. Agitators might see you as competition. Sometimes I can even find it hilarious when they fight, pushing one culture over another. All the ones mixed and halfed will be the first ones out if it goes anywhere, hehe. Sometimes I just zone out bored and think of fish people, giants, other races and stone ages past. I might wonder if humans killed off the neanderthalls.

Culture, culture, culture like it's a packaged brand viewed by the eyes of people who lost the fire that forged it, hehe. Doubled on the weekend and holidays.

I think that's all I gonna rant about for now. XD

At 6/5/16 08:28 PM, DOOKIEMALLO wrote: (I made something about this on the Clubs and Crews forum, and have copied my message on my post from the thread I made on there, hopefully the mods will allow me to speak up about the killing of the white race)

What do you think?

卐 HAIL VICTORY! 卐

"Hail victory!"

Eye, looking through the responses I'm kind of brought low... no one is really open minded enough to carrause about the popular media popular media outlets and undertakings?

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