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At 6/19/04 05:26 PM, WadeFulp wrote: If you people want to keep wasting your time trying to drive away our contributors we have no problem fucking you over. Get a fucking life people and find something else to do with your time other than attacking popular Flash artists.

The title of it, "LEGENDARYFROG SUX PEN0R!!" is just begging for attention, so much that I guess it got Tom's attention. What's funny is that I see people insulting these other popular artists, yet show little talent of their own in doing so. Therefore, they create a title in ALL CAPS insulting a popular artist in order to get some kind of recognition. All it shows is jealousy and resentment that a flash artist is better than them. IMO this is more along the lines of portal spam and flaming. People complain about censorship so much here when usually the ones complaining know they were just trying to cause shit and piss people off.

Oh BTW AbortedFetus I was just fucking with ya. I know what pass judgement means, I've been here for almost two years to know this shit. My point was, obviously if it dropped after judgement, people didn't like it so it should have been blammed anyway. Which always makes me wonder why these pass judgment in the first place. Some people say it's because of batting average, so people vote more than 2 to get a protection point and others say that they get their friends to vote on it. Either way, justice was done and something that should have got blammed in the first place is gone.

At 6/19/04 06:57 PM, AbortedFetus wrote: will make this site suck and the artists and audiences leave.

How about flash movies that piss the audiences off or other artists and they leave because of that? I'm sure your flash won't be missed by many, so don't worry this site won't suck anytime soon.

Whoa! Either this was an evil scheme of yours to destroy NG all along, or you're a whiny bitch.
I watched it too. It made me laugh, actually. I felt a bit sick afterwards though. It was pretty gay. Heehee, 'secks'.

At 6/19/04 07:13 PM, BigBlueBalls wrote:

Oh BTW AbortedFetus I was just fucking with ya. I know what pass judgement means, I've been here for almost two years to know this shit.

you do a really good n00b impression. must have had a lot of practice.

My point was, obviously if it dropped after judgement, people didn't like it so it should have been blammed anyway.

and my point was that it wasn't blammed because it wasn't a bad movie and dropped in score after the legendary frog fans mustered their forces. it shows that good movies can be brought down in score and that if you complain enough a good movie can be removed. I made very valid points, if the 13 year olds found it offensive they shouldn't have been watching an AO movie.

Either way, justice was done and something that should have got blammed in the first place is gone.

you didn't like the movie is the only reason why you said "it should have been blammed in the first place" and you completely ignore that it wasn't removed by process of voting it off the portal which means there is a problem with the voting processess or the audience nowhwere in the rules does it say we cannot make fun of celebrities, not even minor online artist celebrities (I'll mention Tom Fulp's Assassin now). it'd be stupid for people to waste time making movies that will make the admins waste time having to remove if you ignore that problem than you're obviously just being stupid.

I happen to like that flash you sent in it was really funny. Today were not allowed to make fun of other flash artist and next we'll be not allowed to include homosexual content within a flash.

We need Stronger rules on adult submissions so we know what is and is'nt acceptable.

sweet jesus and jew poo. What is wrong with everyone.

On abortedfetus's hand>
we have a lifeless drugy who teams up wit PiConJo. They put forth effort into making a nicly animated movie. The only problem was it was 10 hours of oral sex between some of the most popular artists on newgrounds! Hooray! Get a freaking life! but one 1 thing i do agree on is the offensive materials thing. It should still be in the portal, but you still have no fucking life.

On the other hand>
We have this illusion that anything that offends your flash idols, the legendaryfrog and the crew, it is ure responsibilty to flame them until they pee their pants. You guys, get a life 2! Your idols are problably just as stoned as PiConJo and his lady friend.

and how do we solve this sticky wicket?>
Don't snort blue cheese!

//newman

At 6/19/04 07:52 PM, -noir- wrote: Abunch of stuff i agree with.

I agree 100%
I think it should have stayed in the portal but i doublt LF will ever see piconojo's movies.

At 6/19/04 07:49 PM, Jimmy_Kimmell wrote: Today were not allowed to make fun of other flash artist and next we'll be not allowed to include homosexual content within a flash.
We need Stronger rules on adult submissions so we know what is and is'nt acceptable.

wow a decent post. I wish wade would follow in your example instead of flaming the artists who are working for free for this site. wade, please take the time you spent "attacking" the artists here and put that time into making clearer rules so people can stop wasting their time submitting, complaining, and removing movies.

At 6/19/04 07:29 PM, AbortedFetus wrote: whine whine whine

I think the whole problem comes from us not having seen you movie. Well me. But It's a sure bet that it was a steaming pile of crap that BARELY passed judgement.

So you produce pure crap that is only AIMed at pissing on a fellow Flash author? Oh, real fuckin' brilliant. And then you complain that your piece of crap got removed because of its content, while clearly it was a combination of both crappy content AND poor skills. You compare this with Tom's assassin movies, but you forget that he actually did something cool back then, it was awesome. And new.

And the title STRONGLY suggests just what big blue balls said, you're a bitter whiny no-talent hack who is pissed because he can't insult who he wants on a private website.

tough luck

At 6/19/04 08:13 PM, -poxpower- wrote: I dont read posts I reply to fart fart fart

I think the whole problem comes from us not having seen you movie. Well me. But It's a sure bet that it was a steaming pile of crap that BARELY passed judgement.

looking at your favorite artists (legendary frog) it's no wonder you would just jump to the conclusion it was a piece of crap that barely passed judgement. thanks for your blind opinion but nobody wants to hear it.

So you produce pure crap

a pure crap movie wouldn't have passed judgement.

You compare this with Tom's assassin movies, but you forget that he actually did something cool back then

Tom's assassin movie: degrading celebrities. My movie: degrading celebrities. you make such a good point my dear friend I'm sure the echoing laughters are not directed at you.

And the title STRONGLY suggests just what big blue balls said, you're a bitter whiny no-talent hack

and your favorite authors lists shows why you're posting your insults. for as bad as I am you're much worse. I put creativity into my insults of a flash artist, you just lazily type BS here that makes you look like an idiot.

who is pissed because he can't insult who he wants on a private website.

really? I have no problems insulting you, maybe it's because you're a nobody that doesn't have 1000's of fans to tell to blam my movie.

Just let it fucking go you panzy. If its really that big of a deal sue us.

I wanna see that movie again so I have something to masturbate too. It was really kinky! LF was taking it in teh butt while Pikanjo was sucking teh goat...he's a bahhhhhhd boy >:)

i was wondering what happened to that movie, man. you and piconjo made a funny ass movie and i even bookmarked it and reviewed it. i looked for it today and couldn't find it. sorry to hear legenderyfrog fanboys whistled it, man. i don't know, maybe you could resubmit it again or something because that was grade A hilarity.

At 6/19/04 09:07 PM, AbortedFetus wrote:

looking at your favorite artists (legendary frog) it's no wonder you would just jump to the conclusion it was a piece of crap that barely passed judgement. thanks for your blind opinion but nobody wants to hear it.

interesting that you would change subject so easily. See, your ( shitty) point is that a lot of people respect LF for his skills, and so they all rise to his defence. So WHATEVER ANYONE SAYS, you'll always comeback with this shitty argument that they are only rising to their Heroe's defense, when in reality, you suck and your movie was a piece of crap. And you're a cybaby.

a pure crap movie wouldn't have passed judgement.

I beg to differ. Look at the portal. There are BAZILLIONS of shitty entries. What do you think "Turd of the week" is?

Tom's assassin movie: degrading celebrities. My movie: degrading celebrities. you make such a good point my dear friend I'm sure the echoing laughters are not directed at you.

That wasn't the point. He did it for HIS OWN SITE, insulting PUBLIC FIGURES recognized by millions and who didn't contribute to his flash community in any way. Plus his movies were classy and good ( at the time).
On the other hand, you just bitch at someone who puts a lot of effort into making GOOD flash that people LIKE ( even if they like it for the plot and not the animation.........) and who gets no money. LF isn't rich, he's not really famous at all, and he contributes to what Tom created, which is a community where amateur FLash makers can showcase their either for fun or for breaking though and making flash professionaly. Or just for fun.
And in relative good taste.

and your favorite authors lists shows why you're posting your insults. for as bad as I am you're much worse. I put creativity into my insults of a flash artist, you just lazily type BS here that makes you look like an idiot.

lol again I haven't see your piece of crap, but I'm guessing it didn't get a 1.33 score for nothing. Probably pure crap. I think there are more non-lf supporters than lf supporters on this site, and that would mean that they would actually help out your movie if they thought it was any good, while in truth they came close to blamming it the first time around and clearly regretted it ever passing. And then Tom saw it and took care of it, and I've takled to Tom a couple times, and he seems like a fair level-headed person, and he's in his mid-20's by now. He's got judgement enough to see when something is pure CRAP.

And again, instead of facing the arguments themselves, you try and direct the conversation away from your intense aura of suck and onto the people's preferences.

Just because I admire LF as an animator, doesn't mean I suddely can't see if your movie is crap, and obviously it was, and from all I've heard in this thread and the way you act and the score it had at death, IT WAS PATHETIC and didn't even make it to turd of the week.

really? I have no problems insulting you, maybe it's because you're a nobody that doesn't have 1000's of fans to tell to blam my movie.

never said you had problems insutling people, just said you were pissed now that it was DENIED to you. LF doesn't tell anyone to blam anything, he probably never saw your piece of shit before it got a mercy-deletion from Tom, so stop pretending you made a difference or some sort of new breakthrough.

Ng is a community of authors, if the admins think you did a great job at sucking ass and remove your movie, then take it, or PLEASE LEAVE, because no matter how much you would like to be important, you're not, NG doesn't give two shits about you or your kind leaving, and if you left right now and forever, no one would notice.

don't kid yourself, you're only a bad seed that still has the priviledge to be around, and if you leave, it won't mean "a revilution and omg everyone will leave the nazi fulps" it only means you're gone and NG goes on.

At 6/19/04 08:12 PM, AbortedFetus wrote: wow a decent post. I wish wade would follow in your example instead of flaming the artists who are working for free for this site. wade, please take the time you spent "attacking" the artists here and put that time into making clearer rules so people can stop wasting their time submitting, complaining, and removing movies.

Thank you, I thought your flash animation was pretty funny but they'll be posts totally taking the flups side or your side.

the rules have to be changed or other pepole are gonna keep exposing loop holes like you and other brave flash artist's did.

Good work on your anti LF movie it was'nt crap.

i just flagged your last submission. it was a loop of the phrase "legendary frog sucks." you can't sit there bitching about your flash not staying in the portal after something like that. quit whining, stop being jealous of legendary frog (you know you are and i'm convinced, why else would you submit shit like that) and work on your skills a bit and submit something worth watching.

At 6/19/04 10:58 PM, WelcomeToLife wrote: i just flagged your last submission. it was a loop of the phrase "legendary frog sucks." you can't sit there bitching about your flash not staying in the portal after something like that. quit whining, stop being jealous of legendary frog (you know you are and i'm convinced, why else would you submit shit like that) and work on your skills a bit and submit something worth watching.

Being Jealous has nothing to do with dislike for another flash artist's work.
Sure making flash about them expressing your hate for another flasher is childish but there are no clear rules against it.

but you can't expect it to stay around very long.

At 6/19/04 10:43 PM, -poxpower- wrote: interesting that you would change subject so easily. when in reality, you suck and your movie was a piece of crap. And you're a cybaby.

change subject? your entire subject is your blatantly stupid opinion that I suck and am I crybaby, the subject you throw at many people here on the BBS to make yourself feel better rather than put your time into doing something with your time that makes yourself a better person.

I beg to differ. Look at the portal. There are BAZILLIONS of shitty entries. What do you think "Turd of the week" is?

honoring the survivor. you don't give a war veteran a purple heart because he's a bad soldier.

That wasn't the point. He did it for HIS OWN SITE, insulting PUBLIC FIGURES recognized by millions and who didn't contribute to his flash community in any way. Plus his movies were classy and good ( at the time). <= ha ha admit your failure

and I made one for his site. it doesn't matter about how famous the celebrity is, like anyone has heard of Lloyd Kaufman, but Tom Fulp would probably get a kick out of seeing him in a controversial Flash movie. LF isn't famous, but he's a local celebrity, shut up about there being a difference because there isn't.

On the other hand, you just bitch at someone who puts a lot of effort into making GOOD flash

you're not the one who determines what's good and bad. who is? the NG audience. if it doesn't get blammed it's good enough for the portal... now how puts hard work into a good movie?stfu

And in relative good taste.

hypocrite. "relative" is your own opinion. I know you made a Piconjo movie where he sucks his own penis. lol. stfu you moron.

lol again I haven't see your piece of crap, but I'm guessing it didn't get a 1.33 score for nothing.

is it that hard for you to believe that it had a higher score before the toadies gathered together and blammed it? no its not, what you're doing is DENYING that it had a higher score. I can 0 your stupid movies every day and bring it down to 0.00 and say "look, it's a crappy movie" and does that make it a crappy movie? again, stfu.

Just because I admire LF as an animator, doesn't mean I suddely can't see if your movie is crap. IT WAS PATHETIC and didn't even make it to turd of the week.

check what is TotW, NOTHING. You know why? Because my movie was REMOVED! you just made yourself look like such a moron. that really made my day. thank you.

never said you had problems insutling people, just said you were pissed now that it was DENIED to you.

enjoy the new LF movies I made. they were made especially for you. I can make as many as I want and will continue to do so as long as you say I cant. stfu thank you very much.

At 6/19/04 11:07 PM, WelcomeToLife wrote: but you can't expect it to stay around very long.

I'am proving a point. Your using the over used "Your just jealous" argument for this topic.

There all kinds of flash that makes fun of other flash artists that are still in the portal.

Unless the rules are changed i think Aborted fetus should submit what she feels follows the rules.

i think ya'll should just give up because she's pretty convinced that she's right and i doubt her mind will be changed. just let her submit her movies, and after a few more whistle blows, her account will probably be terminated or banned anyway.

At 6/19/04 11:15 PM, WelcomeToLife wrote: i think ya'll should just give up because she's pretty convinced that she's right and i doubt her mind will be changed. just let her submit her movies, and after a few more whistle blows, her account will probably be terminated or banned anyway.

She might follow the rules closer next time she submits a movie. Don't blow the whistle just cause you see her name.

Give her the benefit of the doublt she might surprize us.

"enjoy the new LF movies I made. they were made especially for you. I can make as many as I want and will continue to do so as long as you say I cant. stfu thank you very much."

that's why i made the whistle blowing comment.

At 6/19/04 10:58 PM, WelcomeToLife wrote: i just flagged your last submission. it was a loop of the phrase "legendary frog sucks." you can't sit there bitching about your flash not staying in the portal after something like that.

that was a special gift for poxpower, he said I couldn't make movies and I showed him up.

quit whining, stop being jealous of legendary frog

maybe I'm not jealous. maybe it's just that he makes stupid moves that are overrated. if I only wanted to make fun of artists I'd be jealous of I'd be making fun of Adam Phillips. you know why I don't? because he doesn't need to use video game characters to gain popularity, he doesn't need to steal jokes from the Simpsons. he doesn't need to be taken off his high horse. legendary frog is obviously the best target for a good hazing.

Hell, you tried and you failed. Good job.

At 6/19/04 11:19 PM, WelcomeToLife wrote: "enjoy the new LF movies I made. they were made especially for you. I can make as many as I want and will continue to do so as long as you say I cant. stfu thank you very much."

that's why i made the whistle blowing comment.

I did'nt get to see them. There marked for review. Anyway, you should give her a chance.

If she brakes enough rules let the flups straighten out the matter. Don't demonize her just cause she had movies marked for review.

Noone who has movies marked for reviews is pure evil.

At 6/19/04 08:12 PM, AbortedFetus wrote:
wade, please take the time you spent "attacking" the artists here and put that time into making clearer rules so people can stop wasting their time submitting, complaining, and removing movies.

You're kidding, right? I actually went back to read Wades post, and as much as I hate to agree with mods or admins (it always just looks like brown nosing) Wade's right on this one. Get a freakin life, retard. There's a big difference between what someone said earlier about making fun of mike jackson, and making fun of another flash artist. Making fun of jackson is pretty acceptable because everyone knows him, he's public, and its fairly unlikely he'll actually see it, let alone take it as a personal assault. You see, jackson doesn't do flash, therefore any attacks made in flash are just a joke, not seen as an attack.

However, when you submit flash attacking other artists on this site, is IS seen as an attack, very much so. It's not like legendary frog did anything to incite the attack, either. the example of jackson was great because it's someone who truly did a lot of things to draw attention to himself, and the example also offered the substitution of the flash artist with jackson and a child. Yupp, that's something jackson actually is accused of doing. I don't recall any point where LF did anything of the sort that was supposedly banned "unjustly". Sucking off another guy, jerking him off or something? I can't remember now. But why? Because it's an atack, and not meant to be funny.

THAT'S why it was removed, so take it in stride and focus your effort on ability and not trying to make an ass of yourself.

As for the rules? THat's rediculous! I think they're pretty precise as is. Do you want a checklist? One of those silly little grading proceedures used by colleges to grade people on their work, where you either get point because something is ther, or dont because its not there?

How the hell more precise do you really want these rules to be, anyway? Objectionable is objectionable.. and you should know very well that not only will it change slightly with each person, but with each new day of your life. in colonial times you could have never pictured a black person in flash because it would have been seen as "objectionable". Also, ten years ago destroying the world trade center in a terrosist attact would have been perfectly fine, because it would have been viewed as unlikely and funny. Think about those two examples for a while.

At 6/19/04 11:18 PM, Jimmy_Kimmell wrote: Give her the benefit of the doublt she might surprize us.

I make contraversial movies if they're not welcome here I can just find some other place to submit. NG is ok for watching movies but it's not artist friendly. sorry for all the people who enjoy my movies, I can't do anything about that.

I made valid points, I asked valid questions, I asked for clearer rules for submitting movies so mistakes like this can't happen. too many people are coming down too hard on me, put everything else I said previously aside and just see the person that I am, poxpower was right I'm a nobody here, I'm being held back. all I ever wanted to do was make movies that made people laugh and I succeeded in that and was told I cannot do that. I'm sorry, I think my dreams have come to an end. I'm sorry I'm crying.

ok jimmy now youre just sucking up to her. thats not very manshow-ish