I've been threatened with account deletion because I've pissed so many people off and played the system. I would post a screenshot of the staff message but I don't want to offend anyone's feelings god forbid or else the staff or mods will swoop forth and correct it so the BBS will be family friendly again with nothing offensive that hurts sensibilities or feelings.

Being politically incorrect is a good start.

At 8/11/15 09:14 PM, Cordyceps wrote: Rumour has it that HomicidalDragon and CombatBoots were IP banned.

Sweet, any particular reason why HD was banned or was it just for constant 1+ and starting fights?

did they finally ban Superghandi64's dumb ass too?

At 8/12/15 09:23 AM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote:

At 8/12/15 08:59 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: did they finally ban Superghandi64's dumb ass too?

Right now, I think he's still doing his annual April Fool's Day hiatus. It makes no sense to us, but it's probably because he is high-functioning autistic. And I think that's the reason he gets away with a lot of his shenanigans too.

Tbh I don't mind him that much since I know he can't help it very much.

No his last post was in june and that's two months after April. Maybe the mods and staff got a clue and banned his ass?

we should be able to find out hoe many times we've been banned and the reason.

At 8/12/15 02:24 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 8/12/15 02:21 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: we should be able to find out hoe many times we've been banned and the reason.

You can PM a moderator and ask, but they usually won't humour you

I went to Wade once due to the fact that the mods are useless and asked, in my nine year tenure I have about 120 bans.

At 8/12/15 02:48 PM, Cordyceps wrote: Damn, that's like double mine

I think I'm doing pretty well in comparison, then

you weren't here for BBR when he was mod where you would get banned for 1-3 for posting in a thread that was later classified as "spam", or Poozy when he really went at it.

At 8/12/15 03:37 PM, Cordyceps wrote: I got a shitload of 3 day bans for "spam" threads.

and its always at the "mods discretion".

Reading about a rule that says not to "defend" a particular thing "in any way" makes it really tempting to come up with logical rationalizations for said thing, if only for the sake of argument. I don't want it to be taken the wrong way though (and I'm sure it would be), so I won't.

That said, though... One time, on Paltalk (I think it was), back in the day, somebody who was a regular on this site (I don't remember who) who was only like 15 at the time, posted a link to a pic in the chat, claiming it was of his cock. I assumed he was joking, and I clicked the link. But then it was, in fact, a cock pic. I only got a short glimpse of it, but I think it might have been shopped (because his cock was HUGE), but it could have also just been from such an angle as to make it look that way. If I tried to make an argument justifying my actions as an unsuspecting clicker of links provided by malicious minors, would that count as a form of defending pedophilia? I'd have to be into it for it to be a 'philia' of anything, right? If I'd have posted the same kind of pic of myself (shopped or not), I'd have been subject to some of the same penalties as child molesters (ie. my home would be on a map for bloodthirsty vigilantes to vandalize, as the crime would be listed as "lewd conduct involving a minor" or something similar, textually indistinguishable from someone who touched a little kid). I think, technically, just clicking the link puts me in the same position, more or less, because then I was in possession of child porn, because some dipshit teenager thought it would be funny. But said dipshit teenager has legally done nothing wrong.

We better not talk about whether that's fair or not though, or we'd all be permabanned if we said maybe it's not. I'm probably going to be permabanned just for bringing it up. I mean nothing's ever come of it, and I kind of doubt anything generally would in such situations, but it's the principle of it. I was in my early 20s when that was, I think. What if that guy's parents had busted in and been like, "Who are you showing naked pictures of yourself to?", and then decided to press charges, as though I'd ASKED him to.

I'm kind of not inclined to post here anymore though anyway, for marginally related reasons. Not the rules against defending bad stuff, but because of the dangers involved for similar reasons. The admins make material full of graphic cock jokes and foul language, but the forum is ALL AGES and there's no way to restrict our posts from minors. So if I posted about what kind of alcohol I like in the "what's the best alcohol" thread currently active here, I could potentially get in serious legal trouble, because that thread was (apparently) made by a 16 year old girl, who shouldn't even be drinking. So if I reply, it's like telling an underage girl (and everyone else, of all ages, in the thread) to drink whatever.

Same with anything else I could post regarding my life (or life in general) as someone over 21. So I make a rude comment to someone here, because they piss me off, and I use the wrong words, and I could have said it to a middle schooler without realizing it. I feel like I have to click on everyone's profiles to check their ages before I say anything, but a lot of people don't list theirs, which implies nothing (could be under 13, under 18, or over 25).

This amounts to essentially having to act like I'm on a board for kids, because that's who's partially who's here. I got into this site when I was in college, and most of the content is collegey stuff, so that's how I always thought of it. But it doesn't feel safe to have collegey (ie. not appropriate for people under 18) discussions anymore.

Really, I feel kind of weird about socializing with people even in their early 20s, though (just like most high schoolers, as much as it grates on me-- and probably a large number of middle schoolers, as disturbing as that is) they probably ALL have more experience with drugs and sex and stuff than I ever will, so I have no real reason to worry about it.

The younger generations just scare the shit out of me too. On numerous levels. Their culture seems generally offensive to me, and often malicious; and I know there's no way I'm seeing enough of it to even know about how bad it really must be.

So it's everywhere online, I guess. It's never safe to have adult communications, because you don't know who's reading it. And everything is so permanent now too. You can't just blow off steam. Everything counts against you, potentially.

I think I'm going to be one of those people who ceases all contact with the outside world online outside of making pictures and stuff. Between the dangers of there being minors everywhere and the generally hostile "troll" culture that's consumed the Internet (yes, kids, there was a time when it wasn't like that-- you probably weren't born yet, but it was a real time that there was), it's just not worth it to make posts on boards anymore.

This works out with the agenda you literally would not believe, that there is, to keep me from communicating with people, in general. I don't even know what I did, but there are some people with a shitload of money who want me silent and/or discredited completely, and they've got my home under surveillance and they pay people to help stalk me in the weirdest of ways, designed to make me seem schizophrenic. It's been working so far too, as I've been diagnosed and locked away for it since it began. It might be the same people who destroyed my home. I don't know. The whole thing sounds unbelievable because I'm a total loser with no friends who's never achieved anything in life, but that's what makes me an easy target. You wouldn't believe what they've done. It's made to be completely deniable and unbelievable. So I sound crazy. That's what they want me to be, so that's all I'll ever be. And you'll believe it. Because that's what makes sense in the version of reality that you're living in, where it's all just a big joke and nothing like that ever happens. You're trained to laugh. Cue the funny spooky music and silly looks amongst yourselves. You get to feel superior because you've looked up the list of symptoms and you've memorized that saying that means I'm crazy, and you can find exactly what kind on the chart and feel smart. Because you believe what the media has taught you to believe about what those "doctors" have to say about who "has" what. And you can feel comfortable grouping my posts in with the nonsense that gets spammed as camouflage for people like me to be silenced within. If you're lucky, you'll never have to see it any other way. You'll live your whole life on that side of the curtain, with one eye closed, and you'll follow along with the narrative you're given, only asking the questions you've been prompted to ask. Safe and sound. Consistent. A black and white world where you take pride in knowing there are shades of gray. And that's all you really need to know.

Do they come back after 10 years or lose all interest?

Call someone a faggot. It worked for me once, but in order to do so, you'll need to do that loads of times...

So 10 years => 3650 days divide by three days per ban equals...

1216.666

So you'll need to find 1217 faggots (Twilight book saga fanboys, preferrably) and call them that simultaneously (before the first ban is set so that you could continue).

At 8/12/15 10:14 AM, mysticvortex13 wrote: she wasnt even technically banned. her account's unable to be logged into apparently. and i can only presume that's a permanent thing. neither she nor i am aware of why it happened.

Got the same problem (kinda) with an Canadian chick a few years younger than me; we met and talked on NG via PM's for over 3 years... then recently, she's not able to log on here

We should get our girls to email Bren or Lil Jim for troubleshooting advice! I lost the internet at home before this logging on problem started, and I just got the internet back earlier this week... lots to catch up on here O_O

Mods have had this power for almost a year. Pre-2009 it would have been abused heavily. What I don't get is why they also have the ability to ban anywhere from 2 to 9 years as well. Generally anyone that does anything worth getting banned for more than a year is in permaban territory. You just have to wonder why, if for any reason, any mod would choose to give a 7, 8 or 9 year ban when the 10 is available. Maybe to mess with someone, but that's about it.

At 8/12/15 05:14 PM, mysticvortex13 wrote: there's bad blood between bren and homicidaldragon.

That's strange... Bren's got amazingly thick skin and would bend over backwards to help with a technical problem.

so i can only presume either he gave her a reason directly after i had that chat with him, or things have gone beyond my ability to repair between them.

I guess NG is waiting for her to repent before helping any further.... though I do think there could be a technical problem at work here. In http://videogamesrule.newgrounds.com/ her case, the problem started after they introduced the red verification link at the top of the page, which she says she clicked... I'll have to ask her for more details before she forgets what happened. Or just check the bug thread. Or let it go entirely and carry on. If it is a bug, I'll let you know if it gets fixed or there's a workaround.

At 8/11/15 08:22 PM, Monster-64 wrote: Too be honest, I'm surprised Xenomit hasn't gotten a 10 year ban since I've seen him justify pedophilia

Has he really? I knew there was a good reason for me not liking him

At 8/13/15 03:00 AM, PyroGreg wrote:

At 8/11/15 08:22 PM, Monster-64 wrote: Too be honest, I'm surprised Xenomit hasn't gotten a 10 year ban since I've seen him justify pedophilia

Has he really? I knew there was a good reason for me not liking him

Well there is a difference between defending paedophilia and saying the age of consent laws need fixing which in the most case Xenomit is doing there is no reason why a 17 year old guy who's been dating a 16 or 17 year old (for the sake of the argument are already having sex) turns 18 then gets arrested for statutaroy rape and has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life you wouldn't believe how often this happens.

At 8/12/15 04:11 PM, soupflavoredsoup wrote: If I tried to make an argument justifying my actions as an unsuspecting clicker of links provided by malicious minors, would that count as a form of defending pedophilia?

We better not talk about whether that's fair or not though, or we'd all be permabanned if we said maybe it's not.

So if I posted about what kind of alcohol I like in the "what's the best alcohol" thread currently active here, I could potentially get in serious legal trouble, because that thread was (apparently) made by a 16 year old girl, who shouldn't even be drinking. So if I reply, it's like telling an underage girl (and everyone else, of all ages, in the thread) to drink whatever.

Same with anything else I could post regarding my life (or life in general) as someone over 21. So I make a rude comment to someone here, because they piss me off, and I use the wrong words, and I could have said it to a middle schooler without realizing it. I feel like I have to click on everyone's profiles to check their ages before I say anything, but a lot of people don't list theirs, which implies nothing (could be under 13, under 18, or over 25).

I don't think you need to worry about any of this. Any reasonable person (and there are a lot of them out there, more than the Newgrounds BBS typically thinks) will easily accept your defence of the Paltalk thing, especially since that sort of thing was a quasi-common occurrence there. What's more is that it's certainly not paedophilia or defending paedophilia. Although I'm not a mod myself, that rule's really not so ambiguous. It's to cut down on discussions that have a tendency to turn gross quickly, like this. When paedophilia gets casually compared to mature homosexuality or a non-problematic relationship between adolescents, that's when things nosedive into "I don't think I want to use this community any more" territory. That, on top of the legal stuff, is why the rule is there.

I've made a lot of criticisms towards the mods over the years, but even I will say that it's silly to assume that you'll be perma-banned for merely bringing it up. Most mods are older than the bulk of the userbase here and have been using the Internet for some time. They can tell when someone is trying to make the forum into their own fantasy space, like that loathsome "Fetishes" thread that used to be on the TV Tropes forum or the rampant apologism you see sometimes on sites like Reddit.

As such, there are a number of adults here and that's recognised in the site's mission statement. True, there are a good number of underaged users, that's an absolutely valid reason for not wanting to use this community. Some things are obviously more suitable for a specifically adult community, and for that the Internet has things like FetLife or whatever. For something as blasé as alcohol usage, it's just a casual conversation between people. Underaged users might get involved, but then there's nothing inherently wrong with talking about drinking (or even doing drugs for that matter). You have to use your common sense, I really believe that most people discussing their favourite booze are more likely to be older having been able to drink a variety of stuff. Younger people can get involved too, heck, it might even be helpful to them for when they can "officially" start drinking.

I think people overstate the legal ramifications of these sorts of things, possibly due to silly outlandish cases being reported in the media. I've been here for nearly nine years on and off, and I can safely say that I've never heard of anyone being arrested or having their life ruined for talking about what kind of beer they like.

The younger generations just scare the shit out of me too. On numerous levels. Their culture seems generally offensive to me, and often malicious; and I know there's no way I'm seeing enough of it to even know about how bad it really must be.

How so? They don't seem that much different than they were ten years ago. If anything, they now seem more mindful of potential dangers thanks to better education. Talking online helps that out.

So it's everywhere online, I guess. It's never safe to have adult communications, because you don't know who's reading it. And everything is so permanent now too. You can't just blow off steam. Everything counts against you, potentially.

All you can do is trust the site and know how to read other people. There are plenty of adult communities out there if you want to talk about things that are explicitly adult, but I don't think it's much of a problem in other cases. The sites operate finely in this way, whether it be Newgrounds, Facebook or Twitter. If you don't feel comfortable that's fine, there will be somewhere for you. It's important not to get into moody old fart mode, where you start blaming young people for "taking away your Internet rights" or what-have-you.

I think I'm going to be one of those people who ceases all contact with the outside world online outside of making pictures and stuff. Between the dangers of there being minors everywhere and the generally hostile "troll" culture that's consumed the Internet (yes, kids, there was a time when it wasn't like that-- you probably weren't born yet, but it was a real time that there was), it's just not worth it to make posts on boards anymore.

I'm pretty certain that "troll culture" used to be much worse than it is now, primarily because people weren't speaking up and saying, "Hey, maybe you shouldn't be such a jerk all the time". Most people leaning that way seem to be nostalgic actually, "Oh, you can't tell people to slit their wrists and drown in a bathtub any more, political correctness gone mad this is".

This works out with the agenda you literally would not believe, that there is, to keep me from communicating with people, in general.

Not sure what to make of all of this, but perhaps you'd benefit from talking to someone in private about these issues.

Not trying to be rude there, I'm talking from personal experience as much as anything.

At 8/13/15 07:44 AM, NuScarab wrote: perhaps you'd benefit from talking to someone in private about these issues.

No, I'd benefit from law enforcement taking it seriously instead of sending me into the psych ward. But that will never happen, as it hasn't for any of the people this has happened to in the past.

Trying for sex in the champagne room.

At 8/13/15 09:16 AM, soupflavoredsoup wrote: No, I'd benefit from law enforcement taking it seriously instead of sending me into the psych ward. But that will never happen, as it hasn't for any of the people this has happened to in the past.

You don't need to go to a psych ward, but it might help to talk about these things with someone. I can't assess you this way or that but my alarms are raised when I see something as jumbled as you posted, whether that be because your life really is jumbled.

At 8/13/15 11:11 AM, mysticvortex13 wrote: nah, it makes me want to use it even more.

I know it's like talking to a brick wall trying to respond to you in any way, but it's nice to see that it's okay to compare a mutual adult homosexual relationship with paedophilia... again.

there's no such thing as apologism. there is only mercy, tolerance, intolerance, and vengeful schadenfreude.

the only reason i'm not is that they don't. however, i'm willing to bet on the other hand that some children actually initiate relationships with adults, and the adults sometimes arent even pedophiliac, and need to turn them down.

"B-b-but the succubi!!" is on the road to being pretty apologist, mate.

because would you release a statement to the press saying someone got arrested for that? no, it would cause a riot.

You wouldn't need a press release. No one would talk about which beer was best on the Newgrounds.com BBS if it resulted in special teams of anti-terror units busting in through your front door. There's no massive cover-up for that, nor is there one of people mysteriously disappearing after talking about paedophilia (because no one is disappearing as such).

i'm an anarchist because i see through these cover stories.

Oh, okay.

you have insufficient experience then. come back when it's happened to you and you live to tell the tale.

What am I supposed to live through? It would nice for you not to be so cryptic on what's apparently a life-threatening matter.

I've lived through bullying online and I've lived through patches of trouble with drugs and alcohol, with the effects spilling over into the online world. Maybe that's not relevant, but it seems like it should be. Adult problems on the Internet that were alleviated by being an adult and dealing with it in various (adult) ways.

Probably continuing to abuse the rules and generally being a dick. Evading bans ect.

At 8/13/15 03:59 PM, mysticvortex13 wrote: there's no harm that comes from talking about something.

This is what I was saying to begin with? I've no idea what the rest of this means.

It seems like a mix up. It's healthy to talk about these things, and we're allowed to do so. Talking about, say, paedophilia doesn't mean you should therefore condone it. To ignore the context in all situations by saying that "we're all just human" is probably just as bad as wanting to (hypothetically) lock people up for talking about their favourite beer on am Internet forum where children might be present. To use an actual example, Noam Chomsky is obviously an intelligent man with more to say than most of us, but that doesn't mean he wasn't blinded by extreme libertarianism when he said it was okay for a neo-Nazi to spout utterly offensive nonsense in the name of "free speech".

simple. you can technically replace people with impostors and eliminate the credibility or lives of those who know they're impostors. works for undercover operations all the time.

Okay.

it's obvious that i meant "come back when you've had people who represent the government arrest you and/or threaten your life for talking about something innocuous and lived to tell the tale."

I don't think I'm going to be arrested for maturely talking about paedophilia on the Internet, just like how I've never been arrested in all the years I've responsibly used friendly online adult communities composed of consenting grown-ups. Of course sex shops are illegally raided and people are incorrectly incarcerated, etc. but there's usually a jump between that and saying a few things on a unimportant Internet forum. It's no big secret that authorities have their weaknesses, people are legitimately campaigning for things in this vein all the time.

The trick is probably not to make excuses for something that should receive outreaching help, rather than an insular fantasy-fulfilling online community offering only the illusion of stability.

think whatever you want of me, however, ignore what's around you at your own peril.

Sorry for being a dumb-dumb, I guess?

At 8/11/15 08:47 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: @SadisticMonkey wasn't "permabanned" per se, he was, quoting, "blocked access from his account". He just wouldn't accept his bans, and kept posting with alternate accounts. Also he wasn't the most charming guy to the establishment.

and another guy, @chrome I believe, was permabanned for posting goatse not once, but multiple times. He was a honcho from the star syndicate or some shit

shit man two BBS legends right there, sad news

@rancidpsychojosh was like the first ever big permaban

I can boil it down to simply this: if you're a continual nuisance to mods, users, and staff, then it's possible that you will be perma-banned or locked out of your account. It's basic common sense stuff, like don't encourage another user to commit suicide, don't follow another user around making graphic sexual comments about his young daughter, don't claim that the site's mods and staff encourage illegal activities, etc.

At 8/14/15 12:21 PM, mysticvortex13 wrote: tell me, what harm comes from pedophilia in and of itself? there's a difference between that and child molestation, and it's not just the attraction vs action.

Put short, it's illegal. It's illegal because it targets people below the age of consent from a variety of psychological deficiencies.

Therefore it's important not to rationalise such behaviour by creating an echo chamber where paedophiles can pretend to live out their fantasies. After a while you start to understand that the supposed harmless online nirvana isn't enough, so you start getting more and more outlandish with your desires. For an Internet example, this is why you get poorly-moderated communities of people progressively boasting about how many insane fetishes they have. For an older example, even if it's a blatant hot-button one, you can look at someone like Jeffrey Dahmer who was forced to neglect his real homosexuality and personality issues until the situation became absolutely grotesque. I don't read psychology journals so, no, I don't have a concrete source to quote from, but this is what experience (both my own and other people's) has taught me.

physical harm is acceptable to me so long as this so-called "victim" accepts it.

Yes, yes, we're all familiar with your slightly psychotic "masochism" at this point. I'm being honest and not even attempting to be rude when I say that you'd probably be a lot happier spending time with people and talking/reading through your issues.

No idea what the rest of your post was all about so don't count on a response if you just come back saying the same thing again.

Hmm, maybe I'm "emotionally butthurt".

At 8/11/15 10:32 PM, saqwert wrote: Nuke Israel

You get a trophy for that, actually.

At 8/14/15 01:17 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: I want to hear this particular story if nobody minds

I wasn't going to get into specifics, but I guess SOMEONE already did:

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1396435/3#bbspost25622771_post_text

At 8/14/15 12:33 PM, dem0lecule wrote:
The thread ended up locked and later deleted because it was a debacle for the community. I found out not long ago his account is also deleted.

What was the name of the thread? I might find it on the Wayback Machine for Sword-of-King's Deleted Thread Archive.

At 8/14/15 02:44 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 8/14/15 02:42 PM, TheGamechanger wrote: What was the name of the thread? I might find it on the Wayback Machine for Sword-of-King's Deleted Thread Archive.

The audio forum isn't that active, as long as you're within the date range, you'll be able to find it.

I don't even know the relative date range for the thread I'm looking for, since no one mentioned the relative timeline of that thread in this thread!

At 8/14/15 02:52 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 8/14/15 02:50 PM, TheGamechanger wrote: I don't even know the relative date range for the thread I'm looking for, since no one mentioned the relative timeline of that thread in this thread!

that would be the logical start point then, dingus

I meant that no one mentioned any date for the thread I'm looking for.