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I still hate that oshame yourself bin laden. He's an terroristic coward and an asshole who should be killed. He's like a rat or a pest. Death to osama

I also want to say that I don't think it's good to molest all islam people, but to osama is good. If he didn't do this then he will do something else in the future. So my advice is: SEND IN THE COMANDO'S AND FRY HIS ASS :D

This is the most disturbing thing I've heard in a long time. It's this kind of mentality that was behind the attacks in the first place. Skip_Dogg, I am personally ashamed that someone of your apparent ignorance and racist beliefs is allowed near a computer. Again, getting off of the original subject, I send my deepest condolences to the families and friends of the victims of the attack on 9/11/01. I hope we can bring to justice the individuals who masterminded this horrible incident. But blind hatred will not help anything, It never can.

At 9/13/01 01:58 AM, SKIP_DOGG wrote:

i think we should bomb all those ragheads to hell!!!!!!!and we should bomb everybody thats not on our side.and kill all the black people now just for the fun of it.

At 9/16/01 10:51 AM, shadowolf wrote:

At 9/16/01 07:25 AM, Serra wrote:

At 9/11/01 11:55 AM, NewJoiseyWop wrote: my father works int he world trade center building. im ready to kill. im fucking ready

okay than say my grandfather was in japan and he died of the nuke, my father was in vietnam and burnt off because of napalm, and my son was in Iraq , suffered and died of embargo....
hey look back! who's terrorist?! so
im ready to kill. im fucking ready

im anti-american and proud of that!!!!

Please, you're just trying to start trouble! You know if you have read what other people are saying how we feel. Yeah, the US has done some awful things but there is a major difference between that and what happened Tuesday: all the times you just mentioned, we were AT WAR with those we bombed, napalmed, nuked. These were civilian attacks, yes, but they were in the context of a war where the enemy knew we were comming and did not surrender, so we went through with our threats. That is different from just attacking civilians out of the blue.

So you're anti-american? Well I'm anti-capitalist, but I'm not celebrating in the streets over the death of some FIVE THOUSAND dead buisness men/women! That's just sick and cold hearted . . . and not even human!

yes you're right. i might gone a litte far..
but as you're anti-capitalist you should know what it does. you know in what a great suffering the 3rd world countries are, and it's reason...
terrorists(?) tried to say they will not let US to rule this world.. ok if US bombs Ladin, what will change... another one who you'll call terrorist will occur and will do the same..
this will go on until capitalism exiled from this world. and you know this is going to happen, it's capitalism's fate to lose..

At 9/16/01 04:06 PM, GeNiuZ wrote: I also want to say that I don't think it's good to molest all islam people,

yes please dont attack arabs in our country, im havin friends who love this country and that have lived here all their lives bein beaten up for no reason

At 9/11/01 10:35 AM, SESSNET wrote: I don't know if y'all heard what happened. The two WTC building were hit by two kamikazee TERRORIST planes. They got tooken out bad - smoking like two roman candles. Also A BOMB went off in Washington DC - in I believe the PENTAGON building. The damage to the WTC was so bad that ONE tower has COMPLETELY COLLAPSED and is COMPLETELY destroyed. I have been watching this ALL MORNING.

I live right across the HUDSON RIVER and see the WTC buildings like they were a few blocks away. I was home when the first explosion happened (like 8 years ago?). I heard that EXPLOSION and I looked out my window. I was also home when a blimp crashed into the WTC and I looked outside and saw that crazy image.

A whole F*CKING World Trade Center Tower is tore down. It looks like the end of the world - if you could see TV. If you are lucky you have CNN. The weird shit is all the TV communications are in the WTC and when the tower went out - so do all the TV channels.

When shit like this happens - I think what will happen? Who is our president? What will he do? This shit is crazy. I am going to go outside and take in some more of the mayhem. Right now it's crazy.

At 9/16/01 06:20 PM, Serra wrote:

yes you're right. i might gone a litte far..
but as you're anti-capitalist you should know what it does. you know in what a great suffering the 3rd world countries are, and it's reason...
terrorists(?) tried to say they will not let US to rule this world.. ok if US bombs Ladin, what will change... another one who you'll call terrorist will occur and will do the same..
this will go on until capitalism exiled from this world. and you know this is going to happen, it's capitalism's fate to lose..

I'm very aware of the fact that if we're not careful, Bin Lauden will just be a martyr and we'll get another terrorist at our front door, but to sit by and do nothing about it is just as bad. What my argument on this BBS has been is that we have to punish Bin Lauden and Bin Lauden ONLY! Otherwise we will only increase suffering in Afganistan and that would make them hate us more, effectively planting the seeds of another terrorist group.

As for capitalism, yeah its evil in alot of ways but you cant blame ALL the 3rd world's problems on one thing. There are numerous reasons why countries are in the shape they are in: govenment, politics, work ethic, location, natural resources and, yes, economics. The US is lucky; we have alot of land with diverse resources, a strong working class, pleanty of running water and electricity and despite the events on the 11th I'd say we are relatively safe (we get along with our neighbors pretty well).

Afganistan has got it ruff, but that isn't because we opened a McDonalds on the corner. They are land-locked, half the country is mountainous barren terrain, they've been in civil war for a long time, and the Taliban isn't exactically the most citizen-friendly government in the world. I won't lie, alot of suffering in Afganistan and the world is due to greedy capitalist pigs, but not ALL of them, and not enough of them to kill what looks like over five thousand and that's why Bin Lauden or whoever did this must pay for his/her crimes.

I have a very important thing to say about all of this.

I am as upset by the mayhem that struck VERY close to my home as the rest of America is. I just want everyone to know that while we are all angry at what happened, we must not let our vengeance get the best of us. Let's not turn ourselves into monsters like those men who hijacked the planes. Going to war is not the answer, even though it seems to be what the whole world wants.

Nostradamus predicted that this event is the first part of the apocalypse and that it will end with the destruction of the world. Is this what we want? It is not what I want.

If the US would pull out of the fight between Israel and Palestine for The Holy Land of Jerusalem we wouldn't have this problem. Our nation has been killing innocent Palestinians for years now and this is how they strike back. If we retaliate to these horrendous attacks, we become no better than them.

For the sake of the world, let's all think about this like reasonable human beings.

The Bible predicts that The Antichrist is 33 years old right now and living in the middle east... and we're about to piss him off. Even though I am not Catholic or Christian, I am still pretty damned scared.

yes you're right. i might gone a litte far..
but as you're anti-capitalist you should know what it does. you know in what a great suffering the 3rd world countries are, and it's reason...
terrorists(?) tried to say they will not let US to rule this world.. ok if US bombs Ladin, what will change... another one who you'll call terrorist will occur and will do the same..
this will go on until capitalism exiled from this world. and you know this is going to happen, it's capitalism's fate to lose..

Um...bad news for ya, but capitalism's here to stay. Why? Because unlike most other methods (communism especially), capitalism takes into account that people work for themselves. The basis of capitalism is that everyone will do what they can to make their own life better and get ahead. Well, guess what? This is the way people are. We're not going to be all nicey-nice and help others while spreading peace and joy because the second we let our guard down, some nutball like Stalin's gonna come into town and make life miserable. Yes we went into Africa and sucked it dry, and yes we piss the world off by getting involved in everyone else's affairs. But by "we" I mean a few individuals who have money/power and don't care who they step on to get more. Blaming "America" as a whole or "Capitalism" as a concept is the same premise as bombing a whole country to get at a few dingbats inside. I have yet to see a better answer to world economy than capitalism, and if you have one, I'd like to hear it.

I can't really say anything more about the situation than's already been said, but I have words from someone who can:
"I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What else can we do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we "have the belly to do what must be done."
And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who
will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing.
I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. There is no doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree that something must be done about those monsters.
But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political
criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden, think Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think "the Jews in the concentration camps." It's not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would exult if someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their country.
Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering.
A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food. There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these
widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban. We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone
Age. Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already. Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses? Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that. New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at
least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and hide. Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals who did this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with the Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been raping all this time
So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's
actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants. That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to
lose, that's even better from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably wrong, in the end the west would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for years and millions would die, not just theirs but
ours. Who has the belly for that? Bin Laden does. Anyone else?"

Just thoughts to ponder

First of all, I just want to tell PeaceKeeper that you look JUST like my husband!!! You guys could be twins...
Secondly, my thoughts on Tuesday's incident:
I don't know what these terroists were thinking when they decided to ram these jets into the World Trade Centers. It wasn't a very smart thing, but I look at this serveral different ways, it's overwhelming. They obviously wanted to piss off the Americans, but probably didn't realize that their targets was the **WORLD** Trade Center, not the American Trade Center. Not only did they piss off the Americans, but there were other countries involved, like Germany and Japan. They had branch offices there. Then again, maybe they wanted to piss off other countries b/c they get off on war. And who knows where that other plane was supposed to go, but the passengers knew that either way, they didn't have a chance to make it out alive, so they died as heroes. So what are these terroist after??? They probably want war, but getting revenge will start a war. We don't want to look like a wuss and not do anything, yet we don't want to fall into their trap. So it's damned if we do, damned if we don't. I think we're a rock in a hard place...all I can do is hope for the best. One thing I'm almost positive of is that Osama bin Laden is behind this...and he's going to have to pay. Justice will prevail...

Check out my conspiracy theory on this at http://www.animeondvd.com/dcforum/DCForumID13/697.html

First of all, I just want to say to the people deeming all of the fucknuts posting about "killing ragheads" and stupid shit like that to shut the fuck up. Not all arabs or people of the islamic faith are like the terrorists that carried out these horrible attacks. There are fanatics with every religion, and these fanatics prey on the uneducated and ignorant. Christianity has had their fair share of militant assholes too. The Catholic church endorses the crusades a couple hundred years ago which consisted of genocide of arabs. Hitler used religion to persecute the jews, skinheads and basically and the KKK and rednecks persecuted and discriminated against blacks, and Catholic and protestant irish are bombing the fuck out of each other as we speak in northern ireland. These crazy bastards are of the minority of the muslum faith, just like the above I mentioned. I've had many friends from that region that are not like that and it pisses me off when people talk shit about nothing they know about. I get really pissed when I hear on the news about people harassing arabs. FUCKING STOP IT MORONS!! This is the USA, generally we respect personal freedom. Freedom of speech, religion and enterprise. People of all races and religions come here solely for that reason, just as people came from different races and backgrounds from Europe by the masses in the late 1800's. Lets treat our Arab-Americans with respect prior to this tragedy because, THEY ARE AMERICANS JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE!!!! We do have to erradicate this fantacism and do as the George W. Bush said "rid the world of evil". As a great nation like ours we will rid the world of evil and avoid civilian casualties like the gulf war because we are better these fanatic dipshits and we respect life.

Peace

BrianG

You know these assholes dont know what they did they just woke a sleeping giant aka America. And with all the suport from other contries we have i hope to hell they all fry. My thoughts and prayers go out to our brothers and sisters in New York the police fire fighters parametics and cilivans who were there when it happened. Today being Monday most people return to work and as it has been said before we are more untied than ever and thats the truth!!

I know that religions have their beliefs...I am Catholic but I don't believe anyone should die b/c they believe this, or they do that. It seems all denominations have their grudges, and it just makes them hypocrites. True Christians would know that hypocracy is WRONG!!! Some Baptists are against Catholocism, and I heard a few things from Lutherans. I hate no one, and I believe that there are Muslims are there who are ashamed of those terroists for crashing planes into the WTC and the Pentagon, b/c now they've been given a bad name, and ppl hate them. I live in Oklahoma, and there are Muslim-Americans in OKC...ppl are terrorizing them. I believe it's wrong, and the person we really should take our anger out on is Osama bin Laden. I can almost bet you money he's behind this.
Another thing, ppl are real excited about Nostradamus. I made a huge post on the the "Steel Dreams" ezboard message board about it...but it's a hoax. Ever since the shit hit the fan on Tuesday, ppl have made up more stories about Nostradamus...and their have been predictions made in the 1600's but he died in 1599, if I remember correctly. They're just urban legends. (I'm helping you guys sleep better at night). Think about it...you hear about someone at school and you tell one person, it starts out as nothing at first. Then after it went through 20 ppl and back to you, it's a bad rumor that can damage that person's rep. b/c ppl added on to it--a little food for thought...
I'm hoping that this has brought the Americans closer together...and that our petty differences will mean nothing. B/c there are African-Americans, Hispanics, Jews, etc. that are American citizens and they are all on the same side as us. If there shall be a war, they will fight for us. But it really pisses me off to watch on TV where you see these hate groups (skin heads, KKK, and whatever else is out there)...I saw one there this girl is holding a child in her arms and showing off her tatoo that says, "I hate jews, they shall die" and she's going to teach that child to hate them. She shouldn't even be a mother. I hope that child marries a Jew and she disowns the child, b/c that child doesn't need his mother in his life, unless she makes a major change. She needs to look at our present situation and realize, "We have bigger issues than hating jewish ppl and blacks"...
There's just so much going through my head...I just want to make ppl think for the better...

At 9/11/01 10:35 AM, SESSNET wrote: I don't know if y'all heard what happened. The two WTC building were hit by two kamikazee TERRORIST planes. They got tooken out bad - smoking like two roman candles. Also A BOMB went off in Washington DC - in I believe the PENTAGON building. The damage to the WTC was so bad that ONE tower has COMPLETELY COLLAPSED and is COMPLETELY destroyed. I have been watching this ALL MORNING.
ok, first of all, this "shit" happen , just because you , "america" as you call yourself, always have done things like this, and if you think that the world will always take that whitout do nothing you are all wrong, or do you forget the invasion to Panama, or the things your governement do to Cuba, or when you get to a war that it´s not your war (Vietnam)? come on, think a little bit about all the things you have always do, and there is the answer to tha stupid cuestion that all are asking? you are the only responsables for that and don´t espect that this will be the last attack, keep thinking that stupid ideas that you are "the kings of the world" and this will not be the last attack, whoever i´m soryy for the innocent victims,

IT WAS ALL YOUR FAULT, think about it.

At 9/11/01 11:54 AM, Citron_Rochell wrote:

guys but come on THIS SHIT IS OVER A PEICE OF LAND I SAY WE NUKE THE SHIT OUT OF IT AND NOONE GETS IT... YOU BIG BABIES..!!!!!!!!

Nukes are bad, yo. Ever hear of nuclear fallout? That's right, mutant babies and the inability to maintain physical cohesion. Nukes are BAD. We've been living on a powderkeg for a while now, this was kind of expected.

and how do you know that the palestinians did it?
you idiot!!!

I have to agree with BruceLee19. The entire world, especially the US, has become barbaric in it's collective thinking. An old adage says that "a person may be smart, but people are very stupid."

This event has wrapped up the entire country in a vengeful rage which contributes to the mob mentality that makes us capable of becoming killers. There are lots of problems with starting a war over this. President Bush was talking about war about twenty three seconds after the first plane hit. Our hotheaded president is about to get the entire world in a heap of trouble.

For one thing, we STILL DON'T KNOW who is responsible. It could be one of hundreds of terrorist groups or possibly several working together.

Furthermore, it is well known that the US is a superpower that can never be invaded and never lose a war... but guess what? those were american planes they stole... they don't have to invade, THEY'RE ALREADY HERE!

Nostradamus predicted the when "two silver phoenixes come down from the sky to topple the twin brothers of oppression... it will open the gateway to the apocalypse."

The end of the world is coming and we are all throwing fuel on the fire. For some reason that totally escapes me, the entire world wants to go to war... millions of lives are going to be lost. Nuclear weapons will be used and this world will become uninhabitable.

Iraq has been letting refugees from Palestine into their country because they are afraid we are going to attack... Iraq may have biological weapons... are you following this?

It reminds me of when I was fifteen and I had to face a similar decision.

Everybody hated me in high school, but since I was so much bigger than the rest of them they did not want to fight me.

One day I was walking down the street with a friend of mine and he saw some guy he knows hanging out by a shopping center. The kid started yelling things, cursing at us... I didn't even know him, so I walked on and told my friend to ignore him.

It was sudden and unexpected, but I felt a hard smashing on the back of my head. I bent down in shock, but the surge of adrenaline painted over the pain. When I turned around the kid had ran halfway up the street and had no intention of coming back.

I could have chased him. Being over six feet tall and nearly 250 pounds, not to mention being trained in the martial arts, I could have beaten him bloody, spat in his eye and called him a pussy little bitch for attacking me from behind... but in the process I'd have only been feeding a fire. His friends would come after me for beating him up, then my friends would go after them... until we all had black eyes, a few missing teeth and a criminal record.

He had run away and was no longer a threat to me. I had a bump on my head for awhile, but that went away just like the kid did. I never heard from him again.

The terrorist groups responsible for this are like a sissy little bitch who hates you but can't meet you face to face. By retaliating with force we only invite them to strike again.

The only real solution is to apprehend and execute the brains behind these groups. That person alone should pay for what was done, not the whole world.

We've lost thousands of lives thus far, but if we go to war we will lose millions more. Shouldn't we be trying to keep the body count LOW?

yeah

I live right across the HUDSON RIVER and see the WTC buildings like they were a few blocks away. I was home when the first explosion happened (like 8 years ago?). I heard that EXPLOSION and I looked out my window. I was also home when a blimp crashed into the WTC and I looked outside and saw that crazy image.

A whole F*CKING World Trade Center Tower is tore down. It looks like the end of the world - if you could see TV. If you are lucky you have CNN. The weird shit is all the TV communications are in the WTC and when the tower went out - so do all the TV channels.

When shit like this happens - I think what will happen? Who is our president? What will he do? This shit is crazy. I am going to go outside and take in some more of the mayhem. Right now it's crazy.

I hope that all this stuff that went on doesn't come down to war...especially a 3rd world war. I hear all this stuff about Armageddon and it scares the shit out of me.
I'm hoping that this will blow over...yes, those terroist screwed up majorly, but we should find and punish whoever did this, and leave it at that. But it's not going to happen that way. Lets say that Osama bin Laden is behind this...we punish him, they say that there will be a Muslim-Christian war. We have to punish someone and show them that we aren't going to take any shit. We can't let it roll off our backs and let them get away with it. But I think it's "damned if we do, damned if we don't" That really worries me, I don't want to see a war come of this, but I do want justice to prevail. Too many ppl died on Sept. 11, we don't need anymore ppl dying.
I'm with you there, PeaceKeeper...keep the body count low...PLEASE!!!

wow, you really like to advertize your stupidity don't you?!?!?

Wow, you're an ass!

Kill Them All!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

this dude needs to die for all the innocent people he killed.

At 9/18/01 10:23 PM, DUDE4U wrote: this dude needs to die for all the innocent people he killed.

Don't you know there are worse things than death. My recommendation: Watch "The Princess Bride" and fast-forward to the scene where Wesley threatens Prince Humperdinck. It's worth it.

Also, I am going to refer to Osama Bin Laden as "Mr. Chickenshit." It's a start, ne? I only call him this for prior acts of terrorism, not this one.

Innocent until proven guilty is a concept lost to us in our rage. We must be careful not to become that which we hate, or the terrorists have already won!

At 9/19/01 05:40 AM, soulblade wrote:

Also, I am going to refer to Osama Bin Laden as "Mr. Chickenshit." It's a start, ne? I only call him this for prior acts of terrorism, not this one.

Yep...I'll say it fits. He's hiding like one...

Scary shit...I got this from the Steel Dreams message board...

try this....

The flight number of one of the planes that hit the towers was Q33NY.

In MS Word, type in Q33NY.
Enlarge the font size to 100
Change the font to Wingdings

"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day"

He most likely did this, he has done stuff like this before, he congratulated the attackers, we need to kick his fugging ass like they should of done back in '93

I just found out that the stuff in my last post was just a hoax...someone must have been bored...
Anyhow...we got Osama bin Laden hiding like a coward...just makes him look guilty as sin...:/

I SAY WE FRY HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

Some Arabs are dancing in the streets of south suburban Chicago . They have also made threats against some of the elderly . Shall we invite them in for tea and give them a hug and kiss for defiling the memory of those lost in the attacks.Believe me , I know that racism runs rampant in this country. I also know our government is not guiltless in the slaughter of innocents. When you take the risk of showing your true self for all to see , you will most likely get an unwanted response. To profile someone is wrong, but when you profess your hate for anyone prepare yourself for a violent response. I have no hate for Arab peoples or followers of true Islam , just as I have no hate for true Christians , but when People twist the words of others to suit their own needs , I have plenty of hate.Leaders of our so called civilized world , have been using books of God to punish others for far too long To Quote Frank Zappa "you can't run a country by a book of religion , not by a heap a lump or a smidgeon , foolish rules of ancient date , designed to make you all feel great while you fold spindle and mutilate , those disbelievers from a neighboring state."

Some Arabs are dancing in the streets of south suburban Chicago . They have also made threats against some of the elderly .

--Those ******* bastards, I say beat them the **** up--

I know that racism runs rampant in this country.
-Yeah, deport those sh!theads back to Afghanistan

I also know our government is not guiltless in the slaughter of innocents.
-We really f-cked up during the attacks on Yugoslavia, we killed Albanians on accident every 3rd day.

When you take the risk of showing your true self for all to see , you will most likely get an unwanted response.
--You won't catch me dancing in the streets, I am pissed--

To profile someone is wrong, but when you profess your hate for anyone prepare yourself for a violent response.
--And why are those fuckers still moving?--

I have no hate for Arab peoples or followers of true Islam
--Same here--

have been using books of God to punish others for far too long
--Yeah, that is so wrong--

To Quote Frank Zappa "you can't run a country by a book of religion , not by a heap a lump or a smidgeon , foolish rules of ancient date , designed to make you all feel great while you fold spindle and mutilate , those disbelievers from a neighboring state."
--Yeah, it is not like we bomed Afghanistan for their beliefs--