Was there any back then when it was released since at the time the Columbine shooting took place not so far from its release?
I mean the game is good but I can see people being offended by it.
Controversy about Pico's School?
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Hell yeah, it was mentioned in multiple newspaper articles and at one point Tom was scheduled to have an interview with CNN (which never happened). Newgrounds got a lot of hype by being built from the ground up being #edgy and stuff
At 4/26/15 08:35 PM, CiviLies wrote: Hell yeah, it was mentioned in multiple newspaper articles and at one point Tom was scheduled to have an interview with CNN (which never happened). Newgrounds got a lot of hype by being built from the ground up being #edgy and stuff
I wish I could find some articles are whatever. But the thing that puzzles me is that a game called Super Columbine Massacre RPG which was made years the infamous shooting got more media attention than Pico's School which was released the year the shooting happened.
But in all honesty why the fuck do you want to make a game about a kid shooting up a school..
At 4/26/15 08:39 PM, DoctorZero wrote: I wish I could find some articles are whatever. But the thing that puzzles me is that a game called Super Columbine Massacre RPG which was made years the infamous shooting got more media attention than Pico's School which was released the year the shooting happened.
But in all honesty why the fuck do you want to make a game about a kid shooting up a school..
As fucked up as things can be, their level of fucked-up-ness can make it funnier to laugh at once you finally get over how up it is in the first place. I remember not too long ago @xenomit posting a joke like,
"Why are 9/11 victims considered amazing readers? Because they can go through 32 stories in ten seconds" or something like that.
Hell yeah there was controversy, I'm not sure if it's in the NG history page but I recall Tom receiving various threats from violence to legal action.
Luckily Tom worked too hard on this one to cave, unlike the Teletubbies.
The game broke new grounds, as other users have already stated; it gave the site tons of attention.
Now, though the violence may be considered as typical as other games, it still possesses the same taste that it did back when it first came out... or at least those 5 years ago when I first played it. I imagine that's what other people would say, too.
(By violence, it's art style is unique to me, but it has blood and stuff and ugh)
At 4/26/15 08:26 PM, DoctorZero wrote: Was there any back then when it was released since at the time the Columbine shooting
Back then, Newgrounds was receiving lots of negative press over Pico's School.
The negative attention particularly helped this place flourish as well.
At 4/26/15 09:27 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:At 4/26/15 08:26 PM, DoctorZero wrote: Columbine shootingthere was also a lot of drama about the "Assassin" character which was wearing a trenchcoat and carried a shotgun around that time
I can see the resemblance.
Anyway I do agree about controversial games on Newgrounds helped it grow over the years. And another thing that I think people should know when they go online they should know that they can come across some fucked up shit. I used to be super sensitive online and I think I played Pico's School when I was like 6 and I was really fucking scared by it and I didn't come back to Newgrounds for years. Then again I was 6 and online so I guess that was kind of a problem but my parents were and are always open for me using tech.
At 4/26/15 08:39 PM, DoctorZero wrote: But in all honesty why the fuck do you want to make a game about a kid shooting up a school..
Because people will play it no matter what.
"Till one day, that lion gets up and tears the shit out of everybody."
There's no such thing as publicity.
Only bullshit.
Do not be misguided in this harmful endeavor, the controversial rhetoric spewed forth is simply a ruse to distract and censor the truth
We need to do something crazy and controversial again to bring Newgrounds back to life.
Ecchi first, ask questions never.
At 4/26/15 11:59 PM, SocialistClock wrote:At 4/26/15 11:00 PM, Suprememessage wrote: We need to do something crazy and controversial again to bring Newgrounds back to life.Weve had quite a few controversial games out, but the attention never seems to last as long as the the original pjco game did, or all those kill a celebrity games
Tom's been working to avoid controversy, juggling both professionalism and artistic integrity-- given that he deleted that Sandy Hook game about a year ago. It's a tough job, juggling.
Quite a development on this endeavor, steering the ship in a different direction. All this-- given he started out with the premise of being violent and edgy; and this whole damn operation relies on people who still constantly crack dick jokes and watch furry midget hentai.
Face it-- things change.
Is it really worth it to grab attention with something controversial and misanthropic, really?
At 4/27/15 02:52 AM, ThePulp wrote:At 4/26/15 11:59 PM, SocialistClock wrote:Tom's been working to avoid controversy, juggling both professionalism and artistic integrity-- given that he deleted that Sandy Hook game about a year ago. It's a tough job, juggling.At 4/26/15 11:00 PM, Suprememessage wrote: We need to do something crazy and controversial again to bring Newgrounds back to life.Weve had quite a few controversial games out, but the attention never seems to last as long as the the original pjco game did, or all those kill a celebrity games
Quite a development on this endeavor, steering the ship in a different direction. All this-- given he started out with the premise of being violent and edgy; and this whole damn operation relies on people who still constantly crack dick jokes and watch furry midget hentai.
Face it-- things change.
Is it really worth it to grab attention with something controversial and misanthropic, really?
It isn't. Shock value would beget more shock value in order for something to grab people's attention. By the end, we'd be tired of it. It'd be like Lady Gaga, we hardly hear of her now but a few years back, she was heavy on the shock value. After a while, shock value loses its steam.
However... if Fulp were to do something along the lines of the film Do the Right Thing... now that would be different. Imagine that as a game. Something that makes people ask questions about what they're doing, even if it turns out to be controversial. Not being controversial for controversy's sake.
Yeah, people are still going to complain. I've accepted the roots of this site, and its early controversies. All one has to do now, is do the right thing.
Bring back assassination games c'mon.
If you're a Newgrounds OG who appreciates Flash games with depth, check out the game I made in 2024.
Shhhhhhhh no there wasnt *pulls out gun*
At 4/27/15 06:00 AM, Jin wrote: Bring back assassination games c'mon.
Who would you like to see assassinated?
At 4/27/15 06:27 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:At 4/27/15 06:00 AM, Jin wrote: Bring back assassination games c'mon.Who would you like to see assassinated?
Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers, Michael bay, Megan Fox, (Insert hated celebrity here)
At 4/26/15 08:39 PM, DoctorZero wrote:At 4/26/15 08:35 PM, CiviLies wrote: Hell yeah, it was mentioned in multiple newspaper articles and at one point Tom was scheduled to have an interview with CNN (which never happened). Newgrounds got a lot of hype by being built from the ground up being #edgy and stuffI wish I could find some articles are whatever. But the thing that puzzles me is that a game called Super Columbine Massacre RPG which was made years the infamous shooting got more media attention than Pico's School which was released the year the shooting happened.
But in all honesty why the fuck do you want to make a game about a kid shooting up a school..
because if you're one of those bootlicking cronies that enjoy knowingly attending those indoctrination camps, then....
You Get What You Fucking Deserve!
It's too bad I wasn't much for Doom, because the stuff I made based on my school don't work on modern computers :\
Western media has descended to the level of Soviet media, pre-Glasnost, except the American people largely still drink from that poisoned well, thinking it provides "news."
At 4/27/15 02:52 AM, ThePulp wrote:At 4/26/15 11:59 PM, SocialistClock wrote:Tom's been working to avoid controversy, juggling both professionalism and artistic integrity-- given that he deleted that Sandy Hook game about a year ago. It's a tough job, juggling.At 4/26/15 11:00 PM, Suprememessage wrote: We need to do something crazy and controversial again to bring Newgrounds back to life.Weve had quite a few controversial games out, but the attention never seems to last as long as the the original pjco game did, or all those kill a celebrity games
Quite a development on this endeavor, steering the ship in a different direction. All this-- given he started out with the premise of being violent and edgy; and this whole damn operation relies on people who still constantly crack dick jokes and watch furry midget hentai.
Face it-- things change.
Is it really worth it to grab attention with something controversial and misanthropic, really?
to be fair it was never a very interesting shooting anyway, Vtech and École are much more entertaining on a number of levels. Now let's get some games based on THOSE!
(Lepine could've downed 4 times as many, but had very specific rooms in mind)
I mean achieving the high score with only pistols when these other goobers had automatics and bombs is no small feat!
It's only thanks to Alex Jones and the NRA that we've remembered it for so long.
Because bulldozing the school was a mighty odd and suspicious decision, all things considered.
Of Course the conspiracy crew would go absolutely feckin' wild! They didn't even bulldoze Bath, which was half destroyed.
actually, maybe I should learn Construct to make a Bath one sometime, got this old game lying around I got from an extinct Hezbollah site in the early 2000s... just staple that to some Crush the Castle physics, and....
Western media has descended to the level of Soviet media, pre-Glasnost, except the American people largely still drink from that poisoned well, thinking it provides "news."
idk why the iconless acct bumped this thread from 4 or 5 years ago 3 hours ago but i do wanna say fuck pigpen even though he made great games and art, if anyones game regardless of having a decent theme is gonna get deleted it should be his shit, hes a fucking douche and seemed particularly creepy to me based on shit he had told me, whether he was trolling or not, i cant really say i give a fuck, fuck that hitler mustache biggie smalls whiteboy wanna be australian ass mother fucker.
as far as picos school goes I think while it was edgy in a way it was very much not tone deaf unlike a lot of submissions that newgrounds has attracted over the years, but it walked the line very tightly. it called out content consumption and the blind following of content via the character of the cassandra character at the end of the game saying fuck school punk music never talked about an apple, and pico replying with an almost renaissance man culture sort of response that they should try and make music themselves instead of just listening (or make games where you can kill celebrities... lmao, early 2000s was also a sensible time for this considering that may have been the height of tabloid paparazzi weirdo bullshit)
the character you play is saving the school, the gun came from a janitors closet which you suppose would always be locked from kids, not some sort of municipal officer assigned to overwatch and bully children or a fucking teacher with a gun so help me god people have actually been talking about that shit in the past decade.
there were aspects of picos school that were really edgy but overall the presentation was more thoughtful and done with a lot more tacts than a child shooting simulator thats going to think the theme wont be lost on people who are hyped to play an edgy kid shooting game
I also can appreciate now that at the time that was also probably a height of people getting into punk and goth music when those scenes were dead and were having their corpses hoisted up as mainstream business models for the music industry hence the misguidedness of the kids you fight in the game, of course im over analyzing shit and seeing things as symbols that might not have even supposed to represent what im seeing but vagueness is also part of what can make execution work, picos school was a fictional story regardless of the social problems of the time, the main antagonist transforming from a girl into a giant creature with a dick could be seen as merely an edgy and mean anti trans statement or could be seen as a statement against the mindless fetishism of transexuality that could be carried out by virtue signalling androids who listen to radio goth and punk designed to make them think theyre edgy and underground, people who think they will end fascism and revolutionize school but instead become over focused on nazism and become fascists themselves who dont end up reforming anything and become radicals themselves
it cant be a direct metaphor to antifa or anything in our time as a whole because that was a different time as well, but in comparison picos school did legitimately have a story and real characters aside from being a project from the site creator, pigpens attitude is reflected in his game that could be a good anti gun message but ultimately was as passionless as his approach to life
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At 4/26/15 09:30 PM, Ganon-Dorf wrote: The negative attention particularly helped this place flourish as well.
I don't remember why I joined 18 years ago it could have because of the negative media attention or the hamster dance song. Then it was Saddam and Bush memes a few years later. Now you just think of shooting a fictional character with a nerf gun and the news goes... I mean Picos 2 would have lived in infamy if was promoted when Sandy Hook happened.
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