NG USERS

[Edvin]

Ok, I have started a topic, again, but this time it is to talk about thos NG users that have no experience in Flash (most of the time), that vote on flash projects unfairly !!! Look, they vote like this, if they like it ot just aprreciate it, they vote 5 !!! But if they think there is a little flaw, some sound sux or anything elsse, those bastards vote 0 !!! (i used to be like that before, but I woke up and opened my eyes !!!)

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I also wanted to report the idiots that play or watch a flash that's still under jugement !!! If they see a popular author, they vote high(4,5), but if they see my flash, and im not famous at all !!! BLAM !!! they vote low (0,1) !!!!

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I hope this forum will interest some of you, it is a NG parody that inspired me to do this forum !!!!

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edvin1412...

[mightypotato]

*clear throat*

Flash by mighty_potato:
- none -

I don't have any Flash to my name...but I still vote fairly. I really fail to see the logic in your argument here.

[MuiKat]

hey!!! clam down!!! ok???

[Edvin]

At 6/14/04 12:58 AM, mighty_potato wrote: *clear throat*

Flash by mighty_potato:
- none -

I don't have any Flash to my name...but I still vote fairly. I really fail to see the logic in your argument here.

that was not the point, Well look at this, once u get the flash thing going, send one to NG, then u will know wut i am talking about and why I am mad and all !!! Sorry, you didnt have to take it personally...

edvin1412...

[IllustriousPotentate]

At 6/14/04 12:57 AM, Edvin1412 wrote: Ok, I have started a topic, again, but this time it is to talk about thos NG users that have no experience in Flash (most of the time), that vote on flash projects unfairly !!!

The last time I checked, Ebert and Roper haven't produced movies, either. Yet they have no problem critiquing movies fairly.

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edvin1412...

Go to the top, above the navigation bar, and click sign in. Then click BBS Signature on the pop-up menu.

[Alastor]

At 6/14/04 12:58 AM, MuiKat wrote: hey!!! clam down!!! ok???

Ha ha ha ha

[Edvin]

At 6/14/04 12:59 AM, GoldenClock wrote: Stop trying to sound intelligent, and stop posting like that.

You fail at Newgrounds.

You don't know me, why are u saying that, and first of all, why should i FAIL newgrounds ? Newgrounds is my internet reference !! I bet you vote like those idiots !!! You stop trying to sound intelligent !!!

[Alastor]

At 6/14/04 01:01 AM, Edvin1412 wrote: edvin1412...

I think you kind of failed with that manual sig of yours.

[Enoll]

this is an old argument...
it;s like george Lucas
saying to people "& how many movies have you made?"
or McDonalds saying
"how many international companies have you made?"

people are entitled to their own opinion no mater how much
of an arse they are.

[KingOfTheKill]

People give crappy flashes crappy scores. And people give flashes made by well known authors good scores because they are good.

[Edvin]

At 6/14/04 01:03 AM, GoldenClock wrote:

At 6/14/04 01:01 AM, Edvin1412 wrote: that was not the point, Well look at this, once u get the flash thing going, send one to NG, then u will know wut i am talking about and why I am mad and all !!! Sorry, you didnt have to take it personally...

edvin1412...

1. You're taking Newgrounds too seriously
2. Your flash wasn't all that great
3. If you're going to write words, at least spell them out correctly. Being French isn't an excuse, either.
4. Don't sign your posts, since we can see who you are.
5. You are a moron.
6. dfasdfadfssdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Dude YOU are taking NG to seriously, it's just reality u moron !!! And ur FLASH wasnt all that great either !!! STAY OUT OF THIS TOPIC PLEASE !!!!

[NightFireSoldier]

I vote fair. Its just there are alot of crappy movies and just a few good ones.

[Alastor]

At 6/14/04 01:07 AM, Edvin1412 wrote: Dude YOU are taking NG to seriously

No you're an idiot.
YES I WON

[Enoll]

At 6/14/04 01:07 AM, Edvin1412 wrote:

:STAY OUT OF THIS TOPIC PLEASE !!!!

So says the 13yo french kid with a plea for people
not to blam his movies in his profile.

[KuroiNeko]

Aww, poor baby, your crappy flash was blammed.

How do you think the famous artists got famous in the first place? Most of them started off making crappy blamtastic flashes, but they kept going and made quality ones. Just shut up and keep trying.

Yes, I've made flash. Yes they were crap. Yes they were blammed.

[IllustriousPotentate]

In his profile, Edvin1412 wrote:

Could you please stop blamming all my flash movies and games... Thanx !!!

Also in his profile:

BLAMS: Involved in the termination of 36 crappy entries.

Kinda ironic, don'tcha think?

[Edvin]

Okay, now i figure out everything !!! Anyways, instead of insulting me, could u do something else, this topic's name isnt INSULT EDVIN1412....

[Alastor]

At 6/14/04 01:28 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: Kinda ironic, don'tcha think?

Not really. We all blam.
I thought you mean his blam : protect ratio at first but they look pretty normal.

[IllustriousPotentate]

At 6/14/04 01:30 AM, Invisocola wrote:

At 6/14/04 01:28 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: Kinda ironic, don'tcha think?

Not really. We all blam.

It's ironic when you consider that he doesn't want anybody blamming his movies, yet he feels no qualms about blamming other peoples'.

Looking at some of his reviews, there's even more irony. He gave an overall 0 to a movie in the 3.20/5 range, and an overall 2 to a movie in the 3.49/5 score.

[Alastor]

At 6/14/04 01:34 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: Looking at some of his reviews, there's even more irony. He gave an overall 0 to a movie in the 3.20/5 range, and an overall 2 to a movie in the 3.49/5 score.

I was kind of looking at it wrong. Yes he doesn't want people blamming his blam-worthy movies yet he feels obligated to blam other people's movies that are equally as shitty.

ah.

[Patcoola]

Edvin1412 is right, the ignorent little bastereds don't know anything about flash nor the rules of web-design. They vote blindly or with an unfair bias opinion, completely ignoring the real work put into the movie.

[Morextremist]

I really should learn flash, but it seems kinda boring and you know what its going to be about so why bother? portal awards are stupid anyway and it will never come out as good as you can picture it in your mind

[JackPhantasm]

I will continue to vote badly when it comes to movies because I'm a blind idiot that has not made flash.

[Grommit]

At 6/14/04 01:42 AM, Patcoola wrote: Edvin1412 is right.....

hmmm, no. Edvin is clearly in the wrong and has thus been proven wrong multiple times in this thread. Just because somebody doesn't know how hard it is to make a flash doesn't mean they have to automatically give it a 5 just because you thought it was very hard to make.

When you make a flash you are putting your work into the hands of the public, and if the public think it sucks (regardless of how long it took to make or how hard the process was) guess what? they blam it.

Name me the main reason people come to this website. We're all here because we are entertained by flash movies by talented artists. Obviously yours and/or Edvin's work was not made by a talented artist, and was blammed accordingly. If you make a flash movie, and submit it to Newgrounds, the MAIN REASON FOR SUBMITTING IT is to entertain the public. I don't give a flying fuck how much you want to express your artisic views or your personal feelings. If you want to make a flash for artisit reasons or personal feelings (and it isn't entertaining) then make it and keep it to yourself. Neither of you (and any flash artist claiming this) has any right at all to make this claim, I've heard it many times before and it is complete and utter bullshit. If you don't want people to tell you how shitty your work is, DONT submit it to Newgrounds. END OF STORY.

[Frank]

At 6/14/04 01:42 AM, Patcoola wrote: They vote blindly or with an unfair bias opinion, completely ignoring the real work put into the movie.

so says the man with

BLAMS: Involved in the termination of 3,376 crappy entries.

Edwin, your a n00b who sucks at flash. Some People vote unfairly. Just because some nub comes along and says "OMG VOTE FAIR OK!! LOL!!#@!" doesn't mean it's gonna change.

[PepsiClock]

i think Edvin1412 is right. Ng users just vote 0 on movies if they have a hunch it is going to be blammed. Even if its good enough to live.

[JackPhantasm]

99% of the time the movies that get blammed needed to get blammed.

[Kyzaskiwi]

to each their own.. the point of a critic is to be critical, regardless of experience but from an outside view.. and the point of reviews and voting is to get comments from EVERYONE, not to just filter out the ones who know that htey are doing.. if i were a flash artist, i would want to know how everyone sees my movie, not just the other artists, since it is everyone who is watching it... also, if your movie is good, it will do well regardless of unfair voters.. everyone on top 50 deserves to be tehre and is tehre cuz they are very good and were voted accordingly.. so if the unfair voters make such a difference than why are most of the good movies in the top 50 and most of the bad ones are blammed? it seems like it works fine to me...

[KuroiNeko]

With such high standards and harshe voting, we insure that only the best of the best get to stay. Of course, things like "B" by Strawberry Clock get to live because democracy does have it's flaws...

So when you finally get something protected, you have something you can look back on and smile, not say "Damn I sucked back then!" or both...

[pieoncar]

I don't give a shit about how much work was put into any Flash. I compare it to everything else that has passed judgement; if the Flash is up to those standards, I'll go for the protect, otherwise, if it obviously isn't up to the standards, I blam it. Other voting methods don't make sense to me.