While browsing trough reddit I /r/incest. In my opinion it's totally fucked up http://www.reddit.com/r/incest/comments/2wudfg/ms_my_mom_awards_me_points_for_various_things/
Then I started thinking. Is there a valid reason to be against incest? I still find it disgusting, but I couldn't really think of why.
Opinions?
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As long as it isn't underage or doesn't hurt anybody, go for it. They will be the ones with a fucked up child.
I disapprove, but it's not like I'm going to insist that we drag them out and stone them to death. Seeing as the guy in reddit is above 18, I can only shake my head in disgust. What if he knocks his mom up? Then he'll be a father and an uncle at the same time.
That said, when you factor in underage acts and parental incest, it's time to call child protective services and maybe the cops.
It's weird thats for sure, and the fact he is so open about it makes me question whether its real or not.
At 2/28/15 05:29 PM, FoAngel wrote: It's weird thats for sure, and the fact he is so open about it makes me question whether its real or not.
Do you WANT to collect the DNA for that one? I'll pass.
He could be lying, but the thread is asking about our opinions on incest... and you know, why am I thinking about that. I'm going to go get an espresso or something to distract me. Darn rain putting me in a mood.
At 2/28/15 05:06 PM, Avery wrote: As long as it isn't underage or doesn't hurt anybody, go for it. They will be the ones with a fucked up child.
At 2/28/15 05:24 PM, Monster-64 wrote: Go ahead if you want to have 7 fingered babies.
This is pretty weird cus, don't we all come from massive incest? Y'know, very first humans n stuff
At 2/28/15 05:33 PM, klompors wrote:
This is pretty weird cus, don't we all come from massive incest? Y'know, very first humans n stuff
I'm sure our ancient ancestors were sexing up other primates, so it's all good. I think. I don't dwell on that much...
Yea, I hate those trailer trash incest hicks, too. But they generate most of my income. Can't neglect the clientele. Despite my negative disposition towards them, business goes on as usual. Money is money.
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At 2/28/15 05:41 PM, TailsPrower wrote: I have the weirdest boner right now...
As long as you're not around female family members, it's okay.
I'm not clicking that link for a lot of reasons; if that invalidates my post, scoll along, lil' doggies.
There's a couple problems with incest. The obvious one is inbreeding, but that obviously only applies when offspring are produced.
The other one, in the shortest terms, is that love, sex, and bonds of trust are insanely complicated things. I can't explain every facet of this but I'll go into a couple.
Something that may seem obvious, but that people don't seem to get, is that once you have sex with someone, you can't undo that. Your relationship goes from one that did not involve sex to one that does. Sex does major big things to your brain, carves connections and draws associations that--for the most part--you just have to live with for the rest of your life.
This is one of the reasons why rape and molestation are so awful, is because they associate sex with things like violence and pain and feelings of helplessness and degradation.
So when you have the sort of intimate and unconditional lifelong relationship that family ideally has, a relationship that is typically characterized by trust in a lack of sexual/romantic intent, it introduces a number of complications. This person is going to continue being your family. They share bonds with all of your other family members in this way, and such a relationship will alter both of your relationships with every other family member. What's more, unless this ends up being a lifelong partnership (which has all the other problems multiplied) it's going to severely impede your ability to have relationships with others, as your familial relationship doesn't disappear, and--as said earlier--you can't undo having sex with them.
A lot of the problems that arise from this are problems that arise from having sex with multiple people anyway, but the problems of trust and broader implications for someone's relationships with others are huge, and undoubtedly bigger than I am even aware of or can comment upon from an outside perspective.
At 6/24/15 11:11 PM, TheGamechanger wrote:
: CorpseGrinder is the Undertaker of the Portal.
At 2/28/15 05:43 PM, CorpseGrinderClock wrote:
A lot of the problems that arise from this are problems that arise from having sex with multiple people anyway, but the problems of trust and broader implications for someone's relationships with others are huge, and undoubtedly bigger than I am even aware of or can comment upon from an outside perspective.
That's definitely true but what makes it worse is power structures. Families are based on very defined roles and inescapable power structures. In situations like that even if everyone is adult (and they probably won't be) it's hard to call it purely consensual.
I have nothing against people who can use pot and lead a productive life. It's these sanctimonius hippies that make me wish I was a riot cop in the 60's
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At 2/28/15 05:50 PM, stafffighter wrote: That's definitely true but what makes it worse is power structures. Families are based on very defined roles and inescapable power structures. In situations like that even if everyone is adult (and they probably won't be) it's hard to call it purely consensual.
I'm not even going to entertain issues of coercion and the underage, because that's a whole other kettle of fish in every sexual scenario. I take a very hardline position on this: if there is any element of coercion, it's wrong, and if there are impediments to ability to consent (age, disability, intoxication, etc.) then there should not be any sexual intercourse whatsoever.
But "power structures", as they exist in relationships in general, are a very real and complicated issue. A very basic example is a relationship where there is a disparity of interest. If you are far more interested in someone than they are in you, that gives them a great deal of power in a relationship (I extremely recently was in a relationship with someone where my interest far exceeded theirs). Others involve dependency (such as a marriage where one spouse is dependent on another to support their livelihood) or more overt things (such as relationships in work or military between superior and subordinate). When familial entanglements get involved, that gets even worse, because you have the relationships of the entire family involved (incidentally, one of the reasons why divorce is so devastating).
At 6/24/15 11:11 PM, TheGamechanger wrote:
: CorpseGrinder is the Undertaker of the Portal.
At 2/28/15 06:02 PM, CorpseGrinderClock wrote:
I'm not even going to entertain issues of coercion and the underage, because that's a whole other kettle of fish in every sexual scenario. I take a very hardline position on this: if there is any element of coercion, it's wrong, and if there are impediments to ability to consent (age, disability, intoxication, etc.) then there should not be any sexual intercourse whatsoever.
I agree completely, mainly because you're agreeing with me. In a family situation it's all but impossible for coercion to not be a factor. A parent exploiting trust, an older sibling using their slightly elevated position and the admiration of the younger. Financial dependence. It's a quagmire filled with dicks.
I have nothing against people who can use pot and lead a productive life. It's these sanctimonius hippies that make me wish I was a riot cop in the 60's
I just want to point out that I am of an inbred off-spring. Two generations as a matter of fact, and my sister is keeping the degradation of our bloodline strong. She currently has multiple kids from our, like, 3rd cousin? My grandparents are aunt/nephew, and my parents were 2nd cousins. The way things seem it all originated from them never knowing they were related. Sadly, my DNA is corrupted pretty badly and I am not even sure if having kids at this point will be okay. My grandparents' kids were pretty violent, and my sister's kids are hyper all the time, and have some health issues. However, it never impeded our ability to learn or whatever inbreeding is supposed to do. I still feel like I am smarter than most people I meet.
As for incest... Well I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the adulterous, incestuous relationships of my family. That being said, I probably wouldn't be wasting my time here on Newgrounds if I wasn't an inbred bastard. ( i like the bastard part :>)
I am curious as to what you have to say about God's Will about us inbred children of the world.
If it's mutual love, let em at it. If it's any kind of messed-up abbusive or manipulative sutuation, it's bad.
And if the resulting kid will have flippers or an extra arm or becomes some other special freak of nature, odds are pretty small that one will reproduce. So in the long term it'll probably dissapear from our genepool, wich is good.
If the incest offspring becomes somewhat normal, it'll possibly reproduce. And we don't want that.
So if bro/sis, dady/daughter or momy/son create an incest baby, it better be some kind of crazy mutant that no one will want to make babies with.
At 2/28/15 06:37 PM, supergandhi64 wrote: just like there's nothing wrong with pedophilia, right? jeez dude
--supergandhi64
Just like you're exactly the sort of Christian hypocrite who covered up child abuse in various institutions for years.
I find it funny that the lot of you are really convinced that incest is sex between the closet member of one's family(ie mother/son, father/daughter, etc, etc). Dafuq's the matter with you assholes? Seems to me y'all watched enough incest porn already. Keep practical and just know that most incest is just what you see on the internet. (And that aint even real!)
It's a taboo for a good reason, inbreeding, possible mental issues and discrimination that follows it by other people
Human mind is a complicated thing, are you really normal if you wish to have sex with your own mother/sister or father/brother? I don't think so, it's just wrong
Are you normal if you just fantasize about that stuff? Well I suppose, people have fucked up perversions anyway.
At 3/1/15 09:56 AM, supergandhi64 wrote:At 3/1/15 09:51 AM, DonRosti wrote:i've never covered up any kind of child abuse. your baseless accusations are only further cementing your role as as troublemaker looking to start some kind of forum fightAt 2/28/15 06:37 PM, supergandhi64 wrote: just like there's nothing wrong with pedophilia, right? jeez dudeJust like you're exactly the sort of Christian hypocrite who covered up child abuse in various institutions for years.
--supergandhi64
--supergandhi64
So judgemental, such a hypocrite, your Lord and Savior must be so proud.
That and you can't comprehend simple English, but we can't really expect clear headed logical thinking from a religious fanatic.
Offspring have increased chances of looking more like something like this.
Of course that's moreso the case after several generations of inbreeding and not just one, but still...
Is it a good idea? No. Is everyone involved at least 18 years of age, not retarded, able to give consent, and consenting? Then I don't think it should be illegal but it's still a terrible idea. Although if someone truly wishes to do this I would question the "not retarded" part.
Nothing really wrong with it, as long as you don't mind retarded children.
I've always wanted to see a twincest baby to see if it looked like a clone.
Oldskies lmao
At 3/1/15 04:01 PM, MykeiXWolfe wrote: I've always wanted to see a twincest baby to see if it looked like a clone.
It is, admittedly, something I wouldn't mind seeing either.
Ah, incest.
It's some fucked up shit, causes problems.
Might as well let 'em.
Contraceptives exist, y'know.
So beyond baby making you people honestly do not see any psychological or emotional complexities to screwing someone you've never not shared a bathroom with, ok.
I have nothing against people who can use pot and lead a productive life. It's these sanctimonius hippies that make me wish I was a riot cop in the 60's
At 3/1/15 08:41 PM, stafffighter wrote: So beyond baby making you people honestly do not see any psychological or emotional complexities to screwing someone you've never not shared a bathroom with, ok.
It's screwed up, but I'm not about to go kicking down doors to see if its happening with the brother and sister that live next door to me.
At 3/1/15 08:43 PM, someaveragechap wrote:
It's screwed up, but I'm not about to go kicking down doors to see if its happening with the brother and sister that live next door to me.
You don't have to go full Gestapo to have an opinion. There are times in life you're under no obligation to play nice.
I have nothing against people who can use pot and lead a productive life. It's these sanctimonius hippies that make me wish I was a riot cop in the 60's
At 3/1/15 08:41 PM, stafffighter wrote: So beyond baby making you people honestly do not see any psychological or emotional complexities to screwing someone you've never not shared a bathroom with, ok.
So not bringing up a point equals not agreeing with that point? No. No, it doesn't.
Most of us bring up the offspring thing because that is the single most obvious signaler as to *why* this is a bad idea, though it's obviously not the only reason.
There are lots of things that are pretty messed up that I would never do but which I don't see why they should be illegal (since they involve exclusively consenting adults). This in no way means I approve of them. It merely means I disapprove of enforcing laws against them because I am in favor of personal freedom, and not merely personal freedoms I would exercise.
You could come up with a thousand bad scenarios of a dozen possible consenting activities and I would agree that, yeah, those are bad ideas. I do not approve of those ideas. However, I also do not approve of sending in the police to go smacking around people who participate in any of that, which is far worse than simply letting people do as they please when it's consensual.
