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Two NYPD officers have been shot by a suspect who ambushed their patrol car ‘execution style’ in Brooklyn. The perpetrator was chased by police and reportedly died of a self-inflicted gun wound.

According to AP sources, both officers have succumbed to gunshot wounds. Earlier reports suggested that one was still alive butin critical condition in hospital.

The shooting took place in Brooklyn outside of the Tompkins Houses at around 3pm. The shooter reportedly came out of the building before shooting the officers patrolling the area. According to the witnesses he then ran away into the subway where he was either shot by police chasing him or died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

The wounded officers were rushed to Woodhull Hospital in “grave” condition as at least one of them was hit in the head.

“It’s an execution,” a law enforcement source told The Post about the ambush.

According to preliminary reports, the uniformed officers were working overtime as part of an anti-terrorism drill as they sat in their marked police car on a Bedford–Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, street corner.

According to the Post sources, the gunman could be a fugitive who recently murdered his girlfriend in Baltimore. Several hours before the shooting the suspected gunman posted a picture of an automatic pistol with a message on Instagram.

“I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today,” he wrote with hashtags #RIPErivGarner and #RIPMikeBrown. “They Take 1 Of Ours … Let’s Take 2 of Theirs.”

The incident occurred as New York officers and police nationwide are being widely criticized for their brutal tactics against suspects, especially African Americans. Over the past weeks tens of thousands of Americans across the country joined in massive marches against the killing of unarmed black men by police.

The protesters spoke out against grand jury decisions not to indict the white officers responsible for the deaths of Michael Brown and Eric Garner. They staged rallies and ‘die-ins’ under the banners ‘Black Lives Matter’ and ‘Justice for All.’

This was bound to happen eventually. With the cases that have been coming up and no clear answers to them someone was going to get this idea in their head.

And...black people/progressives on twitter responding pretty much how you would expect them to.

http://twitchy.com/2014/12/20/can-they-breathe-execution-style-killing-of-two-nypd-officers-celebrated-salute-the-shooter/

Seeing that he also killed his girlfriend and then eventually himself I wouldn't be surprised if he had a history of mental illness, or at the very least had an undiagnosed condition. I'm actually expecting that to be the case. I think it's more likely that him killing his girlfriend and then a couple of cops in the name of avenging Eric Garner became a convenient scapegoat for his suicide as opposed to the mythical black rage brought forth by Bill de Blasio's complacency like a lot of people on my Facebook seem to believe.

At 12/20/14 07:55 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: And...black people/progressives on twitter responding pretty much how you would expect them to.

http://twitchy.com/2014/12/20/can-they-breathe-execution-style-killing-of-two-nypd-officers-celebrated-salute-the-shooter/

The good old fashioned tribal mentality, people cheering the deaths of the innocent because they're "one of them" and not "One of us". You would think this kind of thought process would have died out long ago. Then again, there are people from every angle who benefit from keeping people divided, so I suppose it's only natural this kind of thinking continues.

At 12/20/14 08:16 PM, Feoric wrote: Seeing that he also killed his girlfriend and then eventually himself I wouldn't be surprised if he had a history of mental illness, or at the very least had an undiagnosed condition.

Or he could have been an evil, selfish, hedonist who figured he had to kill someone and decided since he is most likely not going to survive, to kill his girlfriend as well so no one else can have her.

Wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone who would want to kill another so no one else can have them.

At 12/20/14 08:45 PM, Korriken wrote: Or he could have been an evil, selfish, hedonist who figured he had to kill someone and decided since he is most likely not going to survive, to kill his girlfriend as well so no one else can have her.

Wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone who would want to kill another so no one else can have them.

I don't think you're describing a completely different mechanism, though. I'd say that what you described and what I described both depict an individual who is clearly not acting with a sane, rational and competent mind in full possession of his faculties. Normal people dont kill their SO, two police officers, and then themselves. I don't think there's any way this person was not mentally ill.

At 12/20/14 08:55 PM, Feoric wrote:

I don't think you're describing a completely different mechanism, though. I'd say that what you described and what I described both depict an individual who is clearly not acting with a sane, rational and competent mind in full possession of his faculties. Normal people dont kill their SO, two police officers, and then themselves. I don't think there's any way this person was not mentally ill.

You may be right, the difference between mentally ill and evil is a matter of mental stability.

At 12/20/14 08:59 PM, Korriken wrote: You may be right, the difference between mentally ill and evil is a matter of mental stability.

That's an interesting point. I'm not sure if I agree with it 100% but I won't open that can of worms in this thread.

At any rate, the thing that upsets me is that after all the discourse we had in this country during the fallout from Sandy Hook about mental health in general and mental healthcare reform as a policy goal, I'm skeptical that we are also going to have that same sort of conversation in the wake of this shooting. The Eric Garner case demonstrated the massive division in the United States when it comes to the sorts of issues surrounding it, and I suspect that division will also dictate how people will react to the shooting (i.e; more race baiting, trolling, cheering the death of cops/cheering the death of 'those people,' etc) instead of arguing in good faith about certain steps that can be taken in order to help prevent something like this from happening again. I'm willing to bet there were warning signs that went ignored, you just don't decide to do something like this out of the blue.

Of course, what's also upsetting is thinking about what these families must be going through, right before Christmas nonetheless. Terrible.

At 12/20/14 09:16 PM, Feoric wrote:

That's an interesting point. I'm not sure if I agree with it 100% but I won't open that can of worms in this thread.

Might make for a fun conversation. I'll start a thread on it.

I'm skeptical that we are also going to have that same sort of conversation in the wake of this shooting.

I'm sure of it myself. There is too much profit, as well as power, to be had by keeping people divided and problems unsolved. There is a reason why a computer repairman is all to happy to fix your computer, but refuse to give you the tools and know-how to prevent the problem from happening again.

I'm willing to bet there were warning signs that went ignored, you just don't decide to do something like this out of the blue.

Isn't there always? Then again, pawns will be pawns. It's easy to whip the mentally weak into a frenzy and get them to do things that logic would dictate otherwise. Just look at Charles Manson's minions.

Of course, what's also upsetting is thinking about what these families must be going through, right before Christmas nonetheless. Terrible.

I cannot imagine....

At 12/20/14 08:55 PM, Feoric wrote: Normal people dont kill their SO, two police officers, and then themselves. I don't think there's any way this person was not mentally ill.

Are the people celebrating the murders mentally ill too?

At 12/20/14 09:46 PM, Korriken wrote:

I'm willing to bet there were warning signs that went ignored, you just don't decide to do something like this out of the blue.

Isn't there always? Then again, pawns will be pawns. It's easy to whip the mentally weak into a frenzy and get them to do things that logic would dictate otherwise. Just look at Charles Manson's minions.

I do not believe Ismaaiyl Brinsley had a puppermaster like Charles Manson, unless you believe he was inspired to premeditate the murders of those cops solely due to engineered social media/news coverage on the Garner case. Which, again, goes back to my original point -- even if that is actually the case, that's not something a normal healthy human being does.

At 12/20/14 09:55 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Are the people celebrating the murders mentally ill too?

I'm not a doctor but I would reckon that those idiots are no more or less mentally ill than the people who celebrated the death of Eric Garner. I don't think "being a piece of shit" is in DSM-5 but I'll go have a quick check for you.

I would like to see more police with less harsh penalties for accidentally killing criminals. I grow tired of the media trying tp make all cops look like racists murders.

At 12/20/14 07:55 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: And...black people/progressives on twitter responding pretty much how you would expect them to.

http://twitchy.com/2014/12/20/can-they-breathe-execution-style-killing-of-two-nypd-officers-celebrated-salute-the-shooter/

I know you're not self aware enough to recognize it, but this post was racist.

At 12/21/14 04:22 AM, Musician wrote: I know you're not self aware enough to recognize it, but this post was racist.

What a great and intelligent contribution!

At 12/21/14 05:23 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: What a great and intelligent contribution!

Yep, calling out thinly veiled racism is in fact both great and intelligent.

At 12/21/14 05:28 AM, Musician wrote:

At 12/21/14 05:23 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: What a great and intelligent contribution!

Yep, calling out thinly veiled racism is in fact both great and intelligent.

What exactly is the point of calling my post racist?

Seriously, am I supposed to say "oh, I didn't realize that, I shouldn't have said what I did sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings."

If you think I posted something factually inaccurate, show why I'm wrong, otherwise fuck off.

Well let's see. Are "black people" a single monolithic entity in favor of killing cops? No. So I guess your post was factually inaccurate. Not to mention the whole tone of an argument for what kind of behavior one would expect from "black people on twitter" is pretty clearly racist.

At 12/21/14 06:29 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: What exactly is the point of calling my post racist?

Um... not letting racism pass unchallenged? And yeah, you could apologize and admit that your post was poorly thought out, which might mitigate things a little. I don't expect you will though (lol).

At 12/21/14 07:15 AM, Musician wrote: Well let's see. Are "black people" a single monolithic entity in favor of killing cops? No. So I guess your post was factually inaccurate. Not to mention the whole tone of an argument for what kind of behavior one would expect from "black people on twitter" is pretty clearly racist.

Strange how people like you are oddly silent when black people routinely make comparable claims about the entirety of 'white people'.

When we eventually have all the pieces of the puzzle, we will find out that this crime was just simple psychotic rage. Why? Because no healthy human mind murders their girlfriend, and two officers in cold blood. There's nothing to gain from such atrocities. It doesn't make any sense.

I'd rather people injected psychology and criminology into crime stories rather than politics and grief.

At 12/21/14 10:12 AM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: I'd rather people injected psychology and criminology into crime stories rather than politics and grief.

And miss out on the fun?

At 12/21/14 07:15 AM, Musician wrote: Well let's see. Are "black people" a single monolithic entity in favor of killing cops?

Who said that? I think you're implying that all black people are the same, instead of recognizing that black people share a color.

You're projecting your own feelings of unmitigated white self-hate (especially if you're actually a black person yourself [which you aren't]) onto the forum, strawmanning someone with yet another OMG RACISM post.

You're a tool.

No. So I guess your post was factually inaccurate. Not to mention the whole tone of an argument for what kind of behavior one would expect from "black people on twitter" is pretty clearly racist.

"I don't like your tone"

You need to understand the gravity of what murder really is. "Pass me the tea, my crumpets are delicious, great and contributing! MMMmmhmm!"

At 12/21/14 06:29 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: What exactly is the point of calling my post racist?

Um... not letting racism pass unchallenged?

Yeah, why don't you just go ahead and ignore the whole"kill whitey" thing too while you're letting racism go on unchallenged you mouth breathing knuckle dragging dreg.

And yeah, you could apologize and admit that your post was poorly thought out, which might mitigate things a little. I don't expect you will though (lol).

At 12/21/14 01:45 PM, LazyDrunk wrote: And yeah, you could apologize and admit that your post was poorly thought out, which might mitigate things a little. I don't expect you will though (lol).

Oh the irony. The post was a response to Sadistic Monkey, who's pretty openly racist on this forum. It wasn't a commentary about Conservatives in general.

At 12/21/14 10:12 AM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: When we eventually have all the pieces of the puzzle, we will find out that this crime was just simple psychotic rage. Why? Because no healthy human mind murders their girlfriend, and two officers in cold blood. There's nothing to gain from such atrocities. It doesn't make any sense.

I'd rather people injected psychology and criminology into crime stories rather than politics and grief.

You might have a point if there weren't people celebrating the shootings.

And I guess Michael Brown was psychotic too. Son't tell the protesters that though, it might tarnish the image of saint din' do nuffin'.

At 12/21/14 11:48 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 12/21/14 10:12 AM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: I'd rather people injected psychology and criminology into crime stories rather than politics and grief.

And miss out on the fun?

Ehhhh I'm a self-titled mischief maker, but this isn't very funny

At 12/21/14 07:28 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Strange how people like you are oddly silent when black people routinely make comparable claims about the entirety of 'white people'.

So, two wrongs make a right? If others act badly, it's cool if I do the same? Seriously dude. Do you understand how immature and unproductive that sounds?

At 12/21/14 01:45 PM, LazyDrunk wrote: You're a tool.

Dear LazyDrunk,

I've offended you, and for that I apologize. Despite your unnecessary hostility towards me, tonight I will pray to G*d that one day, for your own sake, you will be able to cease collecting your own toenails and urine long enough to form an original thought.