This sentence makes sense.
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Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
Discuss.
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I don't know what happened to my yawn reaction image, this one will have to do.
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Buffalo bison, whom other Buffalo bison bully, themselves bully Buffalo Bison.
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At 10/10/14 12:04 AM, Thor wrote: I don't know what happened to my yawn reaction image, this one will have to do.
The rat the cat the dog chased killed ate the malt.
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"The horse raced past the barn fell."
"The rat the cat the dog chased killed ate the malt."
"The complex houses married and single soldiers and their families."
All correct.
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What that in the Dord video?
At 10/10/14 12:08 AM, Cordyceps wrote: "The rat the cat the dog chased killed ate the malt."
Does not it need commas?
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At 10/10/14 12:12 AM, CiviLies wrote: What that in the Dord video?
At 10/10/14 12:08 AM, Cordyceps wrote: "The rat the cat the dog chased killed ate the malt."Does not it need commas?
The rat ate the malt.
The rat the cat killed ate the malt.
The rat the cat the dog chased killed ate the malt.
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At 10/10/14 12:16 AM, CresIsis wrote: The rat ate the malt.
The rat the cat killed ate the malt.
The rat the cat the dog chased killed ate the malt.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Clever.
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At 10/10/14 12:16 AM, CresIsis wrote:
The rat ate the malt.
The rat the cat killed ate the malt.
The rat the cat the dog chased killed ate the malt.
Wait...WAAAIIIIT....This is kinda blowing my mind.
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Yeah, I listened to a podcast oabout that before. jason steele. mmy fave is the one where he's in the submarine and his internet is powered by xylophone. I still love that shit. Gotta get with my bff melissa and listen to it together again.
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"I sail through a golden nexus. By tanks with armor that glisten. I watch and I play with creations, and what I'm not reading, I listen." <-
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No, it doesn't. And it's not even good English.
Just because something can technically mean something doesn't mean it's the best or even a good way to phrase a thing. At the very least, use commas. Even consider using parentheses.
Any English teacher worth their salt would fail writings like any of the above examples.
If I don't not say not I can not not not perhaps convey a message. <-- There's a reason sentences like that are considered poor form.
tl;dr Stay in school!
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@Cordyceps re: Garden Path Sentences
Awesome! But are there any Garden Path Paragraphs? Garden Path Short Stories?
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At 10/10/14 12:44 AM, NeonSpider wrote: Any English teacher worth their salt would fail writings like any of the above examples.
No. Do you come from public school in middle America?
They would correct the sentence for readability, point the student toward Noam Chomsky, and give extra credit if the student showed initiative by delving into linguistics.
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At 10/10/14 12:44 AM, NeonSpider wrote: tl;dr Stay in school!
Very interesting considering the history of the "buffalo" phrase, and where it came from. I have used the phrases above and very similar phrases of my own creation, as a college student and not a single one of my professors have faulted me for it (but alas you probably know more about the English language than they do.) I'm from The Netherlands and similar things exist in Dutch, mainly used for play but things of this sort also exist in poetry. I now have a masters in social psychology and I believe you are exhibiting the need to feel "brighter" than the rest in this thread or the need to hold some greater knowledge and thus invalidate the things around you you deem as being "stupid" or "incorrect" in order to compensate for your own intelligence being invalidated in the past. There's no need to feel insecure.
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At 10/10/14 12:51 AM, Profanity wrote: They would correct the sentence for readability, point the student toward Noam Chomsky, and give extra credit if the student showed initiative by delving into linguistics.
This.
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At 10/10/14 12:52 AM, CresIsis wrote: stuff
Or those are just stupid pretentious sentences no one in their right mind would speak in public for fear of rightly getting smacked in the face, and they're just flat-out bad English. Quit projecting.
At 10/10/14 12:51 AM, Profanity wrote:At 10/10/14 12:44 AM, NeonSpider wrote: Any English teacher worth their salt would fail writings like any of the above examples.No. Do you come from public school in middle America?
They would correct the sentence for readability, point the student toward Noam Chomsky, and give extra credit if the student showed initiative by delving into linguistics.
Then try it in all your college papers and let me know how that works out for you. Also put it on all your employment applications and tell me how that goes.
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At 10/10/14 01:06 AM, NeonSpider wrote:At 10/10/14 12:52 AM, CresIsis wrote: stuffOr those are just stupid pretentious sentences no one in their right mind would speak in public for fear of rightly getting smacked in the face, and they're just flat-out bad English. Quit projecting.
No one said anything about a person speaking them in public. You seem to be against this for no other reason other to be different. Many forms of beautiful poetry and writing the world over use center-embedded writing such as the "the rat the cat the dog chased killed ate the malt." I agree it's not the best style but some people do enjoy it. That doesn't mean a person would say something like this on the streets. I have graduated several linguistics courses in both America and The Netherlands and both use methods of writing such as these, so not only would I get (and I did get) good marks for using speech such as this in creative writing, but these methods were also taught.
The "buffalo" sentence was created by William J. Rapaport, an associate professor at the University of Buffalo, one of the very same people you claim would bash it.
There's nothing wrong with being wrong or being agreeable towards things, especially things where you have little to no understanding, as it would appear.
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At 10/10/14 01:16 AM, CresIsis wrote: more stuff
It's bad form. If you're intentionally trying to demonstrate a particular thing, that would change context and it may be appropriate in very specific contexts, as anything possibly could be. To just use such phrasing without appropriate contextual explanation is both pretentious and stupid though.
So yes, if a professor used it, he or she would only use it in a very specific context in which it was appropriate to use, and no other. You seem to be suggesting these are appropriate for general use in English, and they're not.
To just use these or writing like this in your general writing, except in extremely specific contexts, would most likely not please most professors or anyone else, for that matter.
Also do not presume upon my understanding, thank you very much.
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At 10/10/14 01:32 AM, NeonSpider wrote: So yes, if a professor used it, he or she would only use it in a very specific context in which it was appropriate to use, and no other. You seem to be suggesting these are appropriate for general use in English, and they're not.
Yeah I don't think they'd be fine for general use.
Now calm down and let me slap them titties.
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Someone's been talking to chronamut.
Either that, or you've been watching too much Vsauce
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Quite.
It's interesting, yet impractical to play around with language.
Since the definitions of words and the norms of language aren't concrete anyway, hundreds of years from now, sentences like those mentioned in this thread could be the new norm for English.
It just depends on the number rubes you can get into the bandwagon.
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