This is getting ridiculous now and I’ve tried my best to avoid personally attacking anyone. If anything, this thread is a shining example of how civility usually fails because certain people here would rather make personal attacks and not ideas.
Once again, it doesn’t take much snooping around or thought to know that health and financial issues are among the biggest contributors to suicide. Do the research yourself. And once again, if we choose to end our lives for any reason that may exist, we can do it. Means of suicide prevention such as suicide hotlines, therapists, psychologists and psychiatrists don’t have much of a place in the world. Why? Well, if you’re thinking about pulling the trigger over money issues, you may be redirected to another social service, but what if even then that doesn’t help? What if you learn that you have cancer? Do you want to deal with many rounds of chemotherapy and/or deal with the bad after effects of surgery? What if you’re sure that you don’t have a future? Want to wait and see or not?
Never once did I say that it’s bad to help people. In fact it’s good, and you can do it for free, professionally trained or not. I offer and solicit help, going down very deeply and personally, very often. I am very good at listening, getting people to think, offering solutions and also venting regarding my own countless issues. I don’t charge a penny when I help someone else out to feel better, and everyone that helps me doesn’t charge me. That’s the way it should be. And there are things that people want help for that I can do little to nothing about, just like with the pros. If you can’t get a home, can’t pay off your rent, have any serious health problems cured quickly, to the point where all of the mental health help in the world can’t help you out, you might consider suicide and should not be negatively judged for it simply because it’s your choice.
The decision to kill yourself is a matter of risks vs. benefits. And if you’re considering it, even if you think you have no one to talk to, you can find a normal person without much of an effort, especially online. And really confiding in a professional saying that you’re suicidal can get you involuntarily committed. I don’t think anyone wants to die in a psych ward. Psychiatry in general is the worst specialty there is. It’s a form of social control with a nasty history masquerading as legitimate medicine. Psychotropic drugs do much more harm than good and the psychological disorders you see in the DSM are really neurological disorders that most people know too little about. They often serve to mask the real problems that cause us to lose it, and that’s about it.
Not everyone is going to read what I say, but I guess my standards are too high. This is about as civil as I can get in a setting like this. Let’s see if it pays off.