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Why some men see women as inferior?

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Hi. I want to discuss my thoughts on something. You may not agree with it and that's fine. So here goes.

I have recently been surfing the manosphere of the Internet to see if it was really as bad as people were saying it is. I looked at a site named Roosh V Forums ran by a pick-up artist named Roosh V which is a forum for men who practices Alpha-masculinity. I saw a lot of content that was vile and hateful. They were saying stuff such as women are inferior to men, women should stay at home and should only like feminine things. One even said that women should not be loved more than men because they are inferior. What's even worse is that Roosh V, the owner of the forums is a pick-up artist who goes around the world seducing women for sex. How the hell does both men and women look up to this guy?

Okay, I understand that men and women have biological, physical and psychological differences, but why would you consider one inferior to the other? What do you guys think?


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 15:38:55


At 8/8/14 03:35 PM, sirleibl wrote: How the hell does both men and women look up to this guy?

Two words; Big dick.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 15:49:26


Maybe his head is shoved too far up his ass and his dick does all the talking?


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 15:50:59


Don't mind the republicans, they're backwards


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 15:51:40


He sounds like a dick. How about looking at everyone as a person and what they can offer to better the world rather than go back and forth about who is "inferior"?

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:00:50


At 8/8/14 03:42 PM, Amaranthus wrote: The guy who created that site basically acts like he's the king of pussy, but yet his advice is basically to keep approaching girls until you find that 1 who doesn't reject you.
*Cringe*

I like how we all know at least one dude like this and are collectively thinking of him right now.

If you don't, you're him

*sigh*

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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:01:00


At 8/8/14 03:41 PM, Cronizone wrote: At 8/8/14 03:35 PM, sirleibl

Men have always been the workers in history whether women like it or not, it's factual. They're the hunters so they need larger shoulders to lift and are "stronger" and more able to attack stronger than other animals. Women are just emotional so they make a big deal out of nothing. All of it, is just fact. If women think they are inferior it shows how inferior they are.
So you are saying that women are inferior and can't work?


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:08:33


Generally, men are more assertive and dominant, but the gender role of Man > Female is a trope thats been asserted through culture and concreted with generations upon generations of time.

There are always exceptions to the rule. That forum, those hateful guys you were talking about in the thread, are surrounding themselves in an echo chamber of self-affirming bias that's supported by cherry-picked details. In fact, I bet the majority of them blather off at the mouth about how much better men are than women, and then when they log off they cower in fear trying to sulk past their wife or appease their girlfriend....no one broad kind of person is better than anybody else, because all people are different.

You have to question what kind of insecurities are in a person to fly a loud flag above their head that any one gender is better than the other.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:10:39


At 8/8/14 04:01 PM, sirleibl wrote:
At 8/8/14 03:41 PM, Cronizone wrote:
So you are saying that women are inferior and can't work?

No, he's saying men are better and more equiped at doing those things than women are.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:12:41


Wait what? I'm checking out the site and it says i've been banned. I don't recall ever going there.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:13:39


At 8/8/14 04:10 PM, Radaketor wrote:
At 8/8/14 04:01 PM, sirleibl wrote:
At 8/8/14 03:41 PM, Cronizone wrote:
So you are saying that women are inferior and can't work?
No, he's saying men are better and more equiped at doing those things than women are.

:So what women are good at, besides nurturing and cooking?


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:24:38


At 8/8/14 03:35 PM, sirleibl wrote: Okay, I understand that men and women have biological, physical and psychological differences, but why would you consider one inferior to the other? What do you guys think?

Complex historical, political and sociological process built on centuries. We really can't just give a simple answer to this. Back during the Renaissance, when the political power was slowly moving away from the royalty's hands towards a parliament system, usually involving old white rich men, it was argued that women shouldn't take part in political power because of their inferior physical power, which is fucking dumb if you consider the fact that these old men were basically just as weak as a 12 years old boy trying to prove he's a tough motherfucker. It was just a way to backtrack on an already established dominance of men on women and try to give it some kind of reasoned structure to justify it. It was, let's not forget it, the beginning of the spreading of liberalism and reason seemed to be the way to structure our world. The fact is, that even then, the power was already uneven between men and women, so they had to basically change it, like actually reasoned and intelligent people would do, or try to figure a way to justify a load of bullshit that was already there.

It was also argued in Renaissance political philosophy that women had the power to create naturally (birth) and that men had to create culturally, hence the separation between nature and culture and the sexual segregation it involved. Even with that kind of authoritarian logic, there were holes, because men still had to try to control "supposedly" women nature and control their body, control the kids they had and basically just bypass their whole backward logic to further establish dominance over women.

If you look through anything written by dickbags who like to call themseles alpha-males (which also usually involves hating gays, queers and anything that would confront their dumb beliefs of what makes men real men), you'll realize that the more it changes, the more it stays the same. Similar backward and dumb arguments as those I mentioned and that are 300 years old, usually come back within these retarded men's flawed logic.

They first define what "the other" is, so women, gay men and basically everything that isn't fitting their notion of "true masculinity", to further circle jerk on how awesome they are. If you ask me, it's pathetic as all hell. It's based on a dumb notion of what womanhood is. They first define it, then they hate it. And if a woman doesn't fit the model they've created for themselves to hate, then they hate them ever more since they are challenging their views of what womanhood is. The logic goes something like this: "Women are weaker and inferior then men. But if they have a PhD, drive trucks and play in a hockey team, then they aren't really women, and they still are shit."

See? Flawless?

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:27:28


At 8/8/14 04:13 PM, sirleibl wrote:
At 8/8/14 04:10 PM, Radaketor wrote:
At 8/8/14 04:01 PM, sirleibl wrote:
At 8/8/14 03:41 PM, Cronizone wrote:
So you are saying that women are inferior and can't work?
No, he's saying men are better and more equiped at doing those things than women are.
So what women are good at, besides nurturing and cooking?

Women can be good at everything they want to, just like men can be good at everything they want to, it takes dedication.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:32:33


At 8/8/14 04:29 PM, Zachary wrote: All the men who I have seen think of women as inferior (not just physically) have been RedPill/MRA types and that is because they can't get laid so they sit around putting down women and talking strategies to talk to girls.

Cultures that have a strong focus on men's body still usually have strong sexism issues, indeed. Even if is possible to enjoy building up your body and fighting without making it about "being a true man" and proving your masculinity by crushing some other men's face, having such a strong cultural focus on "true masculinity" can often lead up to dumb intellectual shortcuts (I feel bad for using the word intellectual here... it almost suggests that they've thought about it...)

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:42:24


At 8/8/14 04:36 PM, Zachary wrote: True, but there is nothing inherently sexist about focusing on a body. I would say that we focus on women's bodies just as much as men's. People who are sexist are just assholes, nothing to do with anything else really.

Not, it's not inherent, it just happens often within these kinds of culture as the "intellectual shortcut" (God! I hate saying that) is often "this is true masculinity", "this is true feminity".

And that Roosh V Forum, men... The fucking cringe! These guys actually take themselves seriously! They use the abbreviation DTF to talk about women who are "down to fuck", and they have a forum section named "Game" and dedicated to giving each others tips on how to score with women. The fucking cringe, dude! I'm telling you!

Why some men see women as inferior?

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 16:52:08


At 8/8/14 04:44 PM, Zachary wrote: Yeah dude lmao, it is really sad that people feel the need to join things like that. They like to make up their cutesy little words to describe everything too and god damn it is bad.

I don't like using their catchwords... but aren't they like... very beta for trying so hard to be alpha? They just go around all day trying to gain some approval from their fellow "manly friends". There is just something about this that makes the cringe reach higher levels everyday.

At 8/8/14 04:46 PM, Amaranthus wrote: That forum seems perfect for @Addict.
He can tell everybody about how he gets so much pussy.

Don't encourage him!

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 17:33:22


This reminds me of a video I saw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyoGGUXP7EM

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 17:38:03


At 8/8/14 04:27 PM, Radaketor wrote: Women can be good at everything they want to

Nope

just like men can be good at everything they want to

Nope

it takes dedication.

Nope


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 17:54:09


I just came to accept that shitloads of "male" traits and "female" traits are just social constructs (I fucking hate that word you have no idea).

Then again my beliefs are that we are all just floating conciousness'es trapped in piles of meat.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 18:06:27


At 8/8/14 05:54 PM, Lorkas wrote: I just came to accept that shitloads of "male" traits and "female" traits are just social constructs (I fucking hate that word you have no idea).

Even without acknowledging that a lot of what makes up gender is socially constructed, you don't have to be a total doofus who claims that "men are superior". I mean, come on! Women are just way better looking then men ;) That's a plus on their sheet.

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 18:17:49


At 8/8/14 06:06 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 8/8/14 05:54 PM, Lorkas wrote: I just came to accept that shitloads of "male" traits and "female" traits are just social constructs (I fucking hate that word you have no idea).
Even without acknowledging that a lot of what makes up gender is socially constructed, you don't have to be a total doofus who claims that "men are superior". I mean, come on! Women are just way better looking then men ;) That's a plus on their sheet.

No homo but I think the male physique is more aesthetic. It just has a better looking design - a body engraved in muscle, sharp, unnexpected changes in in each and every muscle group (yeah girls have muscles too, but their testosterone levels don't allow them to make them seem apparent). The female physique is just an hourglass with two random baloons sticking out.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 18:39:29


At 8/8/14 06:17 PM, Lorkas wrote: No homo but I think the male physique is more aesthetic. It just has a better looking design - a body engraved in muscle, sharp, unnexpected changes in in each and every muscle group (yeah girls have muscles too, but their testosterone levels don't allow them to make them seem apparent). The female physique is just an hourglass with two random baloons sticking out.

The curves of the female body are what makes it stand out as way sexier and appealing to me. And when it comes to the facial traits, the most beautiful facial compositions go to women. But surely, men's body is more functional when it comes to day to day physical tasks, and it does have a more apparent muscular structure, which isn't really something that I'm looking for in women anyway. Also, don't you dare say anything bad about breasts, their a beauty of nature!

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 18:48:17


At 8/8/14 06:39 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: The curves of the female body are what makes it stand out as way sexier and appealing to me. And when it comes to the facial traits, the most beautiful facial compositions go to women. But surely, men's body is more functional when it comes to day to day physical tasks, and it does have a more apparent muscular structure, which isn't really something that I'm looking for in women anyway. Also, don't you dare say anything bad about breasts, their a beauty of nature!

I wasn't talking about sex appeal, just the general proportions of the design. The male body is like a ferarri - perfect proportions.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 18:54:23


women tend to naturally have more unstable emotions. all of my male friends who believe women are inferior use this as their main answer to your question


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 21:34:12


At 8/8/14 04:46 PM, Amaranthus wrote: That forum seems perfect for @Addict.
He can tell everybody about how he gets so much pussy.

Let it go! You were doing so well...


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 22:20:20


At 8/8/14 06:48 PM, Lorkas wrote: I wasn't talking about sex appeal, just the general proportions of the design. The male body is like a ferarri - perfect proportions.

How is sex-appeal not important in the design? :P I take beautiful breasts and nice hips over your large shoulders any day!

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-08 22:23:05


At 8/8/14 10:20 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 8/8/14 06:48 PM, Lorkas wrote: I wasn't talking about sex appeal, just the general proportions of the design. The male body is like a ferarri - perfect proportions.
How is sex-appeal not important in the design? :P I take beautiful breasts and nice hips over your large shoulders any day!

I'm not arguing with you man, I'm sexually attracted to female traits too. I'm just saying it from an artist's point of view.


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Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-16 09:21:13


Men see women as inferior to disguise the fact that it's the other way around.

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-16 09:48:08


Because of narcissism and "dick fear".

Response to Why some men see women as inferior? 2014-08-16 10:06:38


At 8/8/14 03:35 PM, sirleibl wrote: Hi. I want to discuss my thoughts on something. You may not agree with it and that's fine. So here goes.

I have recently been surfing the manosphere of the Internet to see if it was really as bad as people were saying it is. I looked at a site named Roosh V Forums ran by a pick-up artist named Roosh V which is a forum for men who practices Alpha-masculinity.

You mean a man-self-appreciation-circlejerk gay porn forum.

I saw a lot of content that was vile and hateful. They were saying stuff such as women are inferior to men, women should stay at home and should only like feminine things. One even said that women should not be loved more than men because they are inferior.

There are both male extremists and female extremists spewing hateful bullshit about each other. Extremist women want to castrate men and extremist men want to fuck themselves in the ass.

What's even worse is that Roosh V, the owner of the forums is a pick-up artist who goes around the world seducing women for sex. How the hell does both men and women look up to this guy?

That's because extremist males agree with him, and also smart women do.

Why some men see women as inferior?

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