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At 7/18/14 09:25 AM, Sheizenhammer wrote: I'm still at a loss for anyone who has actually had a vegan or vegetarian come up to them and start this argument. Every single time I see vegetarianism brought up on either here or anywhere else, it has been brought up by a self-righteous meat eater, not a vegan / vegetarian, telling other people how to think.

What a thoughtful thread! I hope it made some people realize that their hatred is unfounded. I wonder if that's too old for me to go and post in? Risking ban, don't care. I didn't see the thread before and it's beautiful.
I love you brought that point up because it's so true and I don't think people think about that or realize it.

At 7/17/14 04:01 PM, Gagsy wrote: First thing I inquire when I know someone is having lamb, save me the bone. Sadly the lamb is already dead but doesn't mean I won't be grateful of some free meat and bones for my ever meat loving poochies.

Can you please quit the taxi business and set up a vegetarian / vegan re-education centre win Sen? If only this way of thinking was more common in veggies (and more widely known as accepted vegetarian behaviour by everyone else) then the entire argument would be sooo much more mature and reasonable. Hell, maybe we'd actually get somewhere with it when people quit turning the issue into a "no u" competition. I'm sure there'd be people / organisations willing to fund it as well. ;)

Aww thank you. Pretty funny that every vegan/vegetarian who has posted in here has been completely reasonable, accepting, and knowledgeable. Thank goodness for the meat-eaters who are the same way. I just wish more meat-eaters could relax and be reasonable instead of getting defensive over the mere mention of someone eating differently.

I think the only way Gags and I would be able to run a veg re-education centre would be if we get to have wild, passionate, lovemaking sessions in the back room ;) Teehee.

it's weird as hell that I identify myself as a vegetarian in my head despite recognizing that I'm practicing a meat-eating diet. Guess our minds are slow to transition. But I don't know how much longer I can stand eating meat anyway, I might just go back soon because making myself eat it is getting as hard as hearing people harass me was.

Gagsy mentioned earlier about vegans who don't give their animals meat. I agree that those people aren't using their brains. I would never endanger the well-being of an animal to make it match my own diet. That's pretty hypocritical isn't it? Make my cat suffer because I don't want to harm animals?
I've even prepared delicious meat dishes for family members who eat meat. They were going to eat it anyway and I was a good cook, why deny them my wonderful recipes? Of course, I also got them to try some vegan dishes as well. Some didn't taste right to them, some tasted amazing.

At 7/18/14 04:45 PM, nanocon wrote: i still think that refusing to drink milk doesent make sense although we dident have the ability to digest milk origanally we did evolve it so that part of the argument is broken and even lactose intolerent poeople will drink it occasionally ( my entire immediate familly is lactose intolerent and they will still drink it on occasion).

The point was that humans and infants don't NEED cow milk as you were saying. Humans having to adapt to drinking milk is just proof that it's unnecessary. Not drinking milk makes sense for those who choose not to do it. Drinking milk makes sense for those that choose to do it. Neither is right or wrong, both have valid reasons behind their actions.

as well bringing up what we used to be works agenst a vegan argument. sure we used to not be able to digest milk as adults but we also used to be hunter gatherers my ancestor's especially (i have native heritage) and i can garantee none my ancestors from that far back ever turned down meat food is food. as well natives took to milk pretty quickly despite being lactose intolerent dident they(its one of my favorates).

My point was drinking milk isn't a necessity and it's not a common practice everywhere. You claimed it was necessary to survival, I proved you wrong. Get over it. People hunting for food as a means of survival doesn't prove that milk has always been an essential part of our diet. You do it because you like the taste or you'd rather not get your nutrients another way. Humans are adaptable and awesome.

My "vegan argument" is that eating a vegan diet can be healthy and those who choose to do it have perfectly sound reasons and don't need to be harassed for their choices. Same for eating meat. It can be healthy and those who choose to do it have perfectly sound reasons and don't need to be harassed for their choices.
If you still cannot understand that then just be quiet and don't concern yourself with talking to those different folk.

also vegans when saying how great there diet is kinda glaze over the fact that whole grains are unhealthy for you and can destroy ones ability to get rid of fat.

Oh, okay. I'm sure you're also against vaccines and have tried the grapefruit diet. You're really reaching to try to put others down, aren't you? Here's a secret: some vegan diets are unhealthy. Many meat-eating diets are unhealthy. Many vegan diets are healthy. Many meat-eating diets are healthy.

My argument: Vegans and meat-eaters both have sound reasons behind their diets and both should be respected.
Your argument: Vegans should shut up. They are stupid and unhealthy and make no sense.

You may not be able to see my side, but hopefully you're proving to others how unreasonable that attitude is.

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I wonder how vegans feel about getting egged.

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At 7/18/14 05:57 PM, Sensationalism wrote:

At 7/18/14 04:45 PM, nanocon wrote:

The point was that humans and infants don't NEED cow milk as you were saying. Humans having to adapt to drinking milk is just proof that it's unnecessary. Not drinking milk makes sense for those who choose not to do it. Drinking milk makes sense for those that choose to do it. Neither is right or wrong, both have valid reasons behind their actions.

and in those area's calcium defincys are very common leading to weaker more easily broken bones and in most of those area's they dont have ready access to milk. also i never made the claim that it was a nesesity of life before if you check
the post you refer i was only conning people who dont give it to there babys do to veganism you said that as well a great majority of the things we eat are not nesisary for us to live but we are healthier for eating them

as well bringing up what we used to be works agenst a vegan argument. sure we used to not be able to digest milk as adults but we also used to be hunter gatherers my ancestor's especially (i have native heritage) and i can garantee none my ancestors from that far back ever turned down meat food is food. as well natives took to milk pretty quickly despite being lactose intolerent dident they(its one of my favorates).

My point was drinking milk isn't a necessity and it's not a common practice everywhere. You claimed it was necessary to survival, I proved you wrong. Get over it. People hunting for food as a means of survival doesn't prove that milk has always been an essential part of our diet. You do it because you like the taste or you'd rather not get your nutrients another way.

Humans are adaptable and awesome.

actually my ancestors did not kill animals because they were the only thing available there were/are bountiful amounts of other food not animal based on this continent but animals provide the most energy food is food something is going to kill and eat anamils any way many much more crualy then us some bears for instance prefer to eat there prey alive. and you dident prove a thing just because we adapt to use a new food stock dousent mean it isent a good idea to use it as there are very few ways to get enough calcium in a diet (especialy with out huge amounts of processing) with out milk which is nateral and requirs very little prossessing. as well of course i like the taste of milk the human tong is programed to find things that have large amounts of things it needs given humans liked the taste of milk enough to adapt to it it must mean that the body decided it was a vitle enough material to start using regularly

My "vegan argument" is that eating a vegan diet can be healthy and those who choose to do it have perfectly sound reasons and don't need to be harassed for their choices. Same for eating meat. It can be healthy and those who choose to do it have perfectly sound reasons and don't need to be harassed for their choices.
If you still cannot understand that then just be quiet and don't concern yourself with talking to those different folk.

not my point and you have been attacking everyone here since you joined up in this thread seems to me perhaps you arent fully convinced of your own choices

also vegans when saying how great there diet is kinda glaze over the fact that whole grains are unhealthy for you and can destroy ones ability to get rid of fat.

Oh, okay. I'm sure you're also against vaccines and have tried the grapefruit diet. You're really reaching to try to put others down, aren't you? Here's a secret: some vegan diets are unhealthy. Many meat-eating diets are unhealthy. Many vegan diets are healthy. Many meat-eating diets are healthy.

i actually support vacenes duh they prevent illness also isent vaginitus caused by protien deficiency

now i suggest 1 go deal with your rage issues all the personal attacks you did on me really weakened your point and it was fairly easy to pick apart your argument not to mention mis understanding what i said before about the milk thing made you look kinda well less intelegent. calm down and leave your rage away from the conversation most people do ignor agressive typing paterns and all of this anger you display is only proving a vegan stereo type. 2 be more open minded as i said before i dont care what other people eat and just immediatly assuming that any differing view points is an attack is very closed minded and only makes you look bad and weakens your point.

so either smarten up or leave this thread it dousent really concern you as it was intended for humorous purposes

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At 7/18/14 06:55 PM, nanocon wrote:
now i suggest 1 go deal with your rage issues all the personal attacks you did on me really weakened your point and it was fairly easy to pick apart your argument not to mention mis understanding what i said before about the milk thing made you look kinda well less intelegent.
so either smarten up or leave this thread it dousent really concern you as it was intended for humorous purposes

You're such a funny little troll, aren't you?
Keep going, you're proving a lovely example and making vegans look better.

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At 7/18/14 07:45 PM, Sensationalism wrote:

At 7/18/14 06:55 PM, nanocon wrote:

You're such a funny little troll, aren't you?
Keep going, you're proving a lovely example and making vegans look better.

your the one who is trolling now calm down and stop attacking people or leave the thread

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Probably by covering their mouths with duct tape and then raping them by the butthole.

but in all seriousness they'll shut up if you don't give a shit about them.

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At 7/17/14 12:24 PM, Amaranthus wrote: I blame @SCTE3 for making me google this.

What does the black Captain America do?

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At 7/19/14 05:49 AM, TucoM wrote: What does the black Captain America do?

He makes the comic publisher look good for "adding diversity" to their comics.