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What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 11:36:03 Reply

Lets say Europe never colonized America, what do you think would be the result from then til now?

Also, are native americans its own race, or is it just tribes of people who lived in America before

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 11:41:15 Reply

You sound like Native Americans are an extinct species like dodos lol.


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 11:43:10 Reply

At 7/12/14 11:36 AM, Reiska3 wrote: Lets say Europe never colonized America, what do you think would be the result from then til now?

No Obama.

Also, are native americans its own race, or is it just tribes of people who lived in America before

I think they're considered to be a race.

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 11:53:00 Reply

That is a wonderful picture you posted of a Native American. Why don't you tell us the story of the first Thanksgiving while you're at it!

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 11:59:43 Reply

At 7/12/14 11:53 AM, The-Great-One wrote: That is a wonderful picture you posted of a Native American. Why don't you tell us the story of the first Thanksgiving while you're at it!

I don't celebrate thanksgiving where i live, but thanks for asking though. Yeah it kinda has a modern free feel to it

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:16:42 Reply

This is also a question that bug me for very long time. What if the colonizers, I'm talking about both North and South America, never massacre and murder all the original owners of this land. Instead, they live among the white, brown and Asian.

We would already have Sioux president, Inuit prime minister, Mohawk mayor, etc...

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:21:44 Reply

At 7/12/14 12:16 PM, KatMaestro wrote: This is also a question that bug me for very long time. What if the colonizers, I'm talking about both North and South America, never massacre and murder all the original owners of this land. Instead, they live among the white, brown and Asian.

well, disease didn't do the natives any good, although I heard that more in south america (possibly central america?), a lot of the people are descended from the original inhabitants mixed with european, african and asian ancestors.


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:22:33 Reply

At 7/12/14 11:36 AM, Reiska3 wrote: Lets say Europe never colonized America, what do you think would be the result from then til now?

Also, are native americans its own race, or is it just tribes of people who lived in America before

We wouldn't be stupid.


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:27:20 Reply

In all seriousness it would be much like what happened in Hawaii or what happened to the Maori.

They'd just be subsumed into the population but would still be an ethnic minority complete with all the BS of being an ethnic minority.

There would be alot more of them though, but they might be on the level of mexicans on the social status ladder in the US

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:28:58 Reply

Then America would have been better if Europe didn't invade a colony of where Native Americans lived. That would be awesome. It would been better if they also invited Africans so that both Africans and Natives would make America as an awesome country without Whites saying that they are the true master race. I am proud of being part Native American and having you say they're the ones who made America besides the whites doing the godawful stuff.


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:30:21 Reply

like the guys who own casinos and don't pay taxes?

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:36:36 Reply

At 7/12/14 12:28 PM, fieldertiger wrote: It would been better if they also invited Africans so that both Africans and Natives would make America as an awesome country

yeah that definitely doesn't sound like pure hell
oh how I wish I could shake off this white guilt

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:44:10 Reply

At 7/12/14 12:28 PM, fieldertiger wrote: Then America would have been better if Europe didn't invade a colony of where Native Americans lived. That would be awesome. It would been better if they also invited Africans so that both Africans and Natives would make America as an awesome country without Whites saying that they are the true master race. I am proud of being part Native American and having you say they're the ones who made America besides the whites doing the godawful stuff.

I just kinda wish Europe could be Europe and Native America be Native America, like in the same way that other countries have that status and culture inherited, and just let politics in general be politics :)

Native Americans are pretty cool. You should be proud of yourself.

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:44:37 Reply

At 7/12/14 12:36 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 7/12/14 12:28 PM, fieldertiger wrote: It would been better if they also invited Africans so that both Africans and Natives would make America as an awesome country
yeah that definitely doesn't sound like pure hell
oh how I wish I could shake off this white guilt

Me too, yurgenburgen. I really want to shake it off too.


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:49:30 Reply

Then China and Japan would be America.

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 12:50:33 Reply

At 7/12/14 12:44 PM, Reiska3 wrote: I just kinda wish Europe could be Europe and Native America be Native America, like in the same way that other countries have that status and culture inherited, and just let politics in general be politics :)

Native Americans are pretty cool. You should be proud of yourself.

It would have been okay if North America was Native America. That would be awesome. Hell, I think Canada might be okay with that. It would have more Native American culture.


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 13:01:34 Reply

I wonder if there are any undiscovered tribes still. If there are, then we must burn them down, and rape their women!

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 13:42:57 Reply

Everyone would die


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:09:05 Reply

At 7/12/14 12:44 PM, Reiska3 wrote:
I just kinda wish Europe could be Europe and Native America be Native America, like in the same way that other countries have that status and culture inherited, and just let politics in general be politics :)

Native Americans are pretty cool. You should be proud of yourself.

Actually, I was thinking about this. Every nation in Europe have somekind of natives who lived there prior to the current European. For example, we Finns have the Sami people. It's still a debate whether Sami came first.

People would fight each other over a piece of land, until dead, just because both argue about who own it first. Take the piece of junk Israel/Palestine for example, thousands killed. More intriguing fact that both 'races' are actually the descendants of the Levants. Fuck this world.

My point is, we all have root from somewhere. Why fighting on who own shit first, and instead, share the lands?

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:10:43 Reply

We are our own Sovereign Nation.

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:11:59 Reply

At 7/12/14 12:44 PM, Reiska3 wrote: Native Americans are pretty cool. You should be proud of yourself.

Bless your soul.

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:23:31 Reply

At 7/12/14 11:41 AM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: You sound like Native Americans are an extinct species like dodos lol.

Well, there used to be four million of them and now there are only 250,000, so it's about as close as we have to an extinct race.


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:28:07 Reply

What if instead of Columbus never settling here, the Viking settlement at Vinland was successful and stuck around to the modern day?

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:34:43 Reply

At 7/12/14 02:28 PM, Thor wrote: What if instead of Columbus never settling here, the Viking settlement at Vinland was successful and stuck around to the modern day?

Oh no, the Vikings would never proceed into modern society. They're like the remaining tribe of Amazon. Scandinavia would be doomed. No more delicious meatballs and disgusting surströmming!

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:46:17 Reply

At 7/12/14 02:34 PM, KatMaestro wrote:
At 7/12/14 02:28 PM, Thor wrote: What if instead of Columbus never settling here, the Viking settlement at Vinland was successful and stuck around to the modern day?
Oh no, the Vikings would never proceed into modern society. They're like the remaining tribe of Amazon. Scandinavia would be doomed. No more delicious meatballs and disgusting surströmming!

The ones that settled Vinland were Christian, they were in the process of integrating into society

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:50:05 Reply

At 7/12/14 02:46 PM, Thor wrote:
The ones that settled Vinland were Christian, they were in the process of integrating into society

Actually, no. Christianity only settled in Scandinavia, especially in Finland after a few little Crusades by the Swedes.

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:57:19 Reply

At 7/12/14 02:50 PM, KatMaestro wrote:
At 7/12/14 02:46 PM, Thor wrote:
The ones that settled Vinland were Christian, they were in the process of integrating into society
Actually, no. Christianity only settled in Scandinavia, especially in Finland after a few little Crusades by the Swedes.

Leif Ericsson led the expedition to Vinland. He was a Christian, and is known as the one that brought christianity to Greenland. They even brought ministers to Vinland with them,

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 14:57:51 Reply

China/Japan would have had. Assuming no one colonized the americas, the aztec and inca empires would have been bigger, and there would have been several tribal federations.


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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 15:22:39 Reply

The Aztec empire would have eventually conquered and sacrificed them.

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Response to What if Native American survived 2014-07-12 15:31:39 Reply

At 7/12/14 02:57 PM, Thor wrote:
At 7/12/14 02:50 PM, KatMaestro wrote:
At 7/12/14 02:46 PM, Thor wrote:
The ones that settled Vinland were Christian, they were in the process of integrating into society
Actually, no. Christianity only settled in Scandinavia, especially in Finland after a few little Crusades by the Swedes.
Leif Ericsson led the expedition to Vinland. He was a Christian, and is known as the one that brought christianity to Greenland. They even brought ministers to Vinland with them,

If you're trolling me, then, you're pretty successful. But no, Erikson did not bring Christianity to Nordic nations.

However, if you weren't trolling. Please back up your statement with proofs.