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3.93 / 5.00 4,634 ViewsLets say Europe never colonized America, what do you think would be the result from then til now?
Also, are native americans its own race, or is it just tribes of people who lived in America before
You sound like Native Americans are an extinct species like dodos lol.
At 7/12/14 11:36 AM, Reiska3 wrote: Lets say Europe never colonized America, what do you think would be the result from then til now?
No Obama.
Also, are native americans its own race, or is it just tribes of people who lived in America before
I think they're considered to be a race.
That is a wonderful picture you posted of a Native American. Why don't you tell us the story of the first Thanksgiving while you're at it!
At 7/12/14 11:53 AM, The-Great-One wrote: That is a wonderful picture you posted of a Native American. Why don't you tell us the story of the first Thanksgiving while you're at it!
I don't celebrate thanksgiving where i live, but thanks for asking though. Yeah it kinda has a modern free feel to it
This is also a question that bug me for very long time. What if the colonizers, I'm talking about both North and South America, never massacre and murder all the original owners of this land. Instead, they live among the white, brown and Asian.
We would already have Sioux president, Inuit prime minister, Mohawk mayor, etc...
At 7/12/14 12:16 PM, KatMaestro wrote: This is also a question that bug me for very long time. What if the colonizers, I'm talking about both North and South America, never massacre and murder all the original owners of this land. Instead, they live among the white, brown and Asian.
well, disease didn't do the natives any good, although I heard that more in south america (possibly central america?), a lot of the people are descended from the original inhabitants mixed with european, african and asian ancestors.
Death cures a fool
At 7/12/14 11:36 AM, Reiska3 wrote: Lets say Europe never colonized America, what do you think would be the result from then til now?
Also, are native americans its own race, or is it just tribes of people who lived in America before
We wouldn't be stupid.
In all seriousness it would be much like what happened in Hawaii or what happened to the Maori.
They'd just be subsumed into the population but would still be an ethnic minority complete with all the BS of being an ethnic minority.
There would be alot more of them though, but they might be on the level of mexicans on the social status ladder in the US
Then America would have been better if Europe didn't invade a colony of where Native Americans lived. That would be awesome. It would been better if they also invited Africans so that both Africans and Natives would make America as an awesome country without Whites saying that they are the true master race. I am proud of being part Native American and having you say they're the ones who made America besides the whites doing the godawful stuff.
like the guys who own casinos and don't pay taxes?
At 7/12/14 12:28 PM, fieldertiger wrote: It would been better if they also invited Africans so that both Africans and Natives would make America as an awesome country
yeah that definitely doesn't sound like pure hell
oh how I wish I could shake off this white guilt
At 7/12/14 12:28 PM, fieldertiger wrote: Then America would have been better if Europe didn't invade a colony of where Native Americans lived. That would be awesome. It would been better if they also invited Africans so that both Africans and Natives would make America as an awesome country without Whites saying that they are the true master race. I am proud of being part Native American and having you say they're the ones who made America besides the whites doing the godawful stuff.
I just kinda wish Europe could be Europe and Native America be Native America, like in the same way that other countries have that status and culture inherited, and just let politics in general be politics :)
Native Americans are pretty cool. You should be proud of yourself.
At 7/12/14 12:36 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:At 7/12/14 12:28 PM, fieldertiger wrote: It would been better if they also invited Africans so that both Africans and Natives would make America as an awesome countryyeah that definitely doesn't sound like pure hell
oh how I wish I could shake off this white guilt
Me too, yurgenburgen. I really want to shake it off too.
Then China and Japan would be America.
At 7/12/14 12:44 PM, Reiska3 wrote: I just kinda wish Europe could be Europe and Native America be Native America, like in the same way that other countries have that status and culture inherited, and just let politics in general be politics :)
Native Americans are pretty cool. You should be proud of yourself.
It would have been okay if North America was Native America. That would be awesome. Hell, I think Canada might be okay with that. It would have more Native American culture.
I wonder if there are any undiscovered tribes still. If there are, then we must burn them down, and rape their women!
At 7/12/14 12:44 PM, Reiska3 wrote:
I just kinda wish Europe could be Europe and Native America be Native America, like in the same way that other countries have that status and culture inherited, and just let politics in general be politics :)
Native Americans are pretty cool. You should be proud of yourself.
Actually, I was thinking about this. Every nation in Europe have somekind of natives who lived there prior to the current European. For example, we Finns have the Sami people. It's still a debate whether Sami came first.
People would fight each other over a piece of land, until dead, just because both argue about who own it first. Take the piece of junk Israel/Palestine for example, thousands killed. More intriguing fact that both 'races' are actually the descendants of the Levants. Fuck this world.
My point is, we all have root from somewhere. Why fighting on who own shit first, and instead, share the lands?
We are our own Sovereign Nation.
At 7/12/14 12:44 PM, Reiska3 wrote: Native Americans are pretty cool. You should be proud of yourself.
Bless your soul.
or heart
At 7/12/14 11:41 AM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: You sound like Native Americans are an extinct species like dodos lol.
Well, there used to be four million of them and now there are only 250,000, so it's about as close as we have to an extinct race.
You know the world's gone crazy when the best rapper's a white guy and the best golfer's a black guy - Chris Rock
What if instead of Columbus never settling here, the Viking settlement at Vinland was successful and stuck around to the modern day?
At 7/12/14 02:28 PM, Thor wrote: What if instead of Columbus never settling here, the Viking settlement at Vinland was successful and stuck around to the modern day?
Oh no, the Vikings would never proceed into modern society. They're like the remaining tribe of Amazon. Scandinavia would be doomed. No more delicious meatballs and disgusting surströmming!
At 7/12/14 02:34 PM, KatMaestro wrote:At 7/12/14 02:28 PM, Thor wrote: What if instead of Columbus never settling here, the Viking settlement at Vinland was successful and stuck around to the modern day?Oh no, the Vikings would never proceed into modern society. They're like the remaining tribe of Amazon. Scandinavia would be doomed. No more delicious meatballs and disgusting surströmming!
The ones that settled Vinland were Christian, they were in the process of integrating into society
At 7/12/14 02:46 PM, Thor wrote:
The ones that settled Vinland were Christian, they were in the process of integrating into society
Actually, no. Christianity only settled in Scandinavia, especially in Finland after a few little Crusades by the Swedes.
At 7/12/14 02:50 PM, KatMaestro wrote:At 7/12/14 02:46 PM, Thor wrote:Actually, no. Christianity only settled in Scandinavia, especially in Finland after a few little Crusades by the Swedes.
The ones that settled Vinland were Christian, they were in the process of integrating into society
Leif Ericsson led the expedition to Vinland. He was a Christian, and is known as the one that brought christianity to Greenland. They even brought ministers to Vinland with them,
China/Japan would have had. Assuming no one colonized the americas, the aztec and inca empires would have been bigger, and there would have been several tribal federations.
(הֲבֵל הֲבָלִים אָמַר קֹהֶלֶת, הֲבֵל הֲבָלִים הַכֹּל הָבֶל. דּוֹר הֹלֵךְ וְדוֹר בָּא, וְהָאָרֶץ לְעוֹלָם עֹמָדֶת. (קהלת א ג, ה
The Aztec empire would have eventually conquered and sacrificed them.
At 7/12/14 02:57 PM, Thor wrote:At 7/12/14 02:50 PM, KatMaestro wrote:Leif Ericsson led the expedition to Vinland. He was a Christian, and is known as the one that brought christianity to Greenland. They even brought ministers to Vinland with them,At 7/12/14 02:46 PM, Thor wrote:Actually, no. Christianity only settled in Scandinavia, especially in Finland after a few little Crusades by the Swedes.
The ones that settled Vinland were Christian, they were in the process of integrating into society
If you're trolling me, then, you're pretty successful. But no, Erikson did not bring Christianity to Nordic nations.
However, if you weren't trolling. Please back up your statement with proofs.