At 7/13/14 11:55 PM, Chronamut wrote:
I dunno about you but I don't think the average artist can afford a bigass sign.
I was more referring to the concept/ technology portion of the signs, not the costs to the artist although considering that do you think the average artist would be willing to drop $150 ($300) on these things? Most artists have quite a bit of ingenuity and (provided they have the means) can do their own lightbox thing if they really wanted to or more likely do something similar with their own unique spin on the concept. This project isn't (at least it shouldn't be) aimed at artists so much as the nonartists who would like to hang your art up.
I have to pay the person who I use to use his equipment, as well as buy and put together all the raw resources, so yes I have to pay for labour.
So are you going to buy your own equipment in the event you get the $10,000? Because if you weren't planning on it I would definitely advise it (space is an issue with that stuff though).
sorry but as an artist I don't feel that you need to know that. Just know that people would most likely be able to bu them from me for 150 bucks.
Of course I don't need to know it, I was just trying to get a feel for your process and expenses to see if I could help you to cut some of the costs.
"disregarding the solar powered part"? That is the entire point dude - the entire point is to make them cheap, with a persons art in them, entirely weatherproof, with lights that never need to be changed, that are completely self sustaining by being solar powered. To my knowledge nothing like that exists - at least not here.
Well in the video I remember you providing the alternative of having them plug into the wall as well, so the solar powered portion didn't seem like it was the entire point of them
Not really. In the exact context I am making them they ARE novel - because they will become entirely self-sufficient and can just be left alone to shine forever - day and night, and not take up electricity when the solar/battery powered concept is done. The power needed to power one of those things is not going to be cheap, and we will need to implement a bunch of functions - dimmers, motion sensing, timed on and off, and being able to have enough interact light inside to be powered enough to stay on all day. Most concepts are simple but they still need research and money to do.
I said they were novel in the exact context you are making them, but that falls apart when looked at in the context of other similar light up displays.
this portion kind of brought to light a couple new issues for me: in public outdoor places I don't know that it's necessary for them to be on during the day, and as for the issue of timed on and off: that is very easy, my snake's heat light is on a set timer so it's not an issue that needs much looking into to implement. Motion sensing doesn't really seem necessary for them unless you were to be making one that's sole purpose was to do unique or interesting things when people walked by since LED's take up very little power to run so having them turn off isn't really necessary unless you're really in a crunch. As for the dimmers I don't know how that would work or how you would want to implement that, but if you wanted it to have like a glowing effect where the LED's slowly kind of pulse with light I've definitely seen stuff like that done before so it's all for the most part charted territory. Google is free and could probably help you get that stuff up and running in the span of a day. Now I could be wrong and all of this could be really difficult to find out how to do, but I really doubt it is (I'm not going to bother looking it up because come on, why would I).
we'd need to make the boxes deeper then - otherwise the flourescents would shot as big white lines behind it. Nope the LEDs work fine. Making them bigger though will cost a lot more LEDS which is part of where the price come in, as well as either custom making the boxes with custom sizes of wood, or having to outsource them to another company which can get very expensive.
Yeah, the depth and lines are a definite issue, again more drawbacks to florescent lights, but again, up front costs which are definitely an issue when doing these things. But then I suppose they also present more issues in the vein of wiring space as well as weight because of the extra wood as well. It was a suggestion.
kickstarter price can't be changed once it's started. We shall see how it does, that's all there is to it. I understand you think the amt is absurd, but you're not the one making them. They are also printed on a bigass printer with special lightbox paper, opaque on one slide, clear and shiny on the other.
I'm aware kickstarter prices can't be changed I was referring to the next time you try crowd funding projects. I was't referring to your project as absurd I'm saying the way you are talking about it is absurd, also you could do with being more focused on who your audience is your current video goes from artists, to non artists to you (strangely enough) it's a weird thing to do. so yeah, hope that cleared some things up. Probably not.