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smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 14:07:31 Reply

Show me one.


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 14:08:14 Reply

Show me a person who's never been traumatized

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 14:10:37 Reply

At 7/1/14 02:08 PM, Jester wrote: Show me a person who's never been traumatized

Psychological trauma is a type of damage to the psyche that occurs as a result of a severely distressing event.

Trauma, which means "wound" in Greek, [1] is often the result of an overwhelming amount of stress that exceeds one's ability to cope or integrate the emotions involved with that experience. [2] A traumatic event involves one experience, or repeating events with the sense of being overwhelmed that can be delayed by weeks, years, or even decades as the person struggles to cope with the immediate circumstances, eventually leading to serious, long-term negative consequences, often overlooked even by mental health professionals: "If clinicians fail to look through a trauma lens and to conceptualize client problems as related possibly to current or past trauma, they may fail to see that trauma victims, young and old, organize much of their lives around repetitive patterns of reliving and warding off traumatic memories, reminders, and affects." [3]

Trauma can be caused by a wide variety of events, but there are a few common aspects. There is frequently a violation of the person's familiar ideas about the world and of their human rights, putting the person in a state of extreme confusion and insecurity. This is also seen when institutions are depended on for survival, violate or betray or disillusion the person in some unforeseen way. [4]

Psychologically traumatic experiences often involve physical trauma that threatens one's survival and sense of security. [5] Typical causes and dangers of psychological trauma include harassment, sexual abuse, employment discrimination, police brutality, bullying, domestic violence, indoctrination, being the victim of an alcoholic parent, the threat of either, or the witnessing of either, particularly in childhood, life-threatening medical conditions, medication-induced trauma. [6] Catastrophic natural disasters such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, war or other mass violence can also cause psychological trauma. Long-term exposure to situations such as extreme poverty or milder forms of abuse, such as verbal abuse, exist independently of physical trauma but still generate psychological trauma.

However, the definition of trauma differs among individuals by their subjective experiences, not the objective facts. People will react to similar events differently. In other words, not all people who experience a potentially traumatic event will actually become psychologically traumatized. [7] This discrepancy in risk rate can be attributed to protective factors some individuals may have that enable them to cope with trauma. Some examples are mild exposure to stress early in life, [8] resilience characteristics, and active seeking of help. [9]

Some theories suggest childhood trauma can increase one's risk for psychological disorders including PTSD, depression, and substance abuse. Childhood abuse tends to have the most complications with long-term effects out of all forms of trauma because it occurs during the most sensitive and critical stages of psychological development. [10] It could also lead to violent behavior, possibly as extreme as serial murder. For example, Hickey's Trauma-Control Model suggests that "childhood trauma for serial murderers may serve as a triggering mechanism resulting in an individual's inability to cope with the stress of certain events." [11]


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 14:12:29 Reply

At 7/1/14 02:07 PM, beakerboy wrote: Show me one.

You remind me of sister od Doug, from that cartoon. There was an episode when they were traveling somewhere and his sister wanted to stop at some piece of ground that was supossedly of artistic value. She was saying that in order to become a great artist you have to suffer. She was looking for drama where and when it wasn't needed. You're going that way. All people at some point are going to get traumatized. There's no need to look for that, becuase you will end hurting yourself on purpose in order to achieve smarts which will ave completly different effect.

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 14:12:57 Reply

At 7/1/14 02:10 PM, beakerboy wrote:
At 7/1/14 02:08 PM, Jester wrote: Show me a person who's never been traumatized
Psychological trauma is a type of damage to the psyche that occurs as a result of a severely distressing event.

yeah that's the jist of it

good job lil buddy

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 14:13:18 Reply

At 7/1/14 02:10 PM, beakerboy wrote:
At 7/1/14 02:08 PM, Jester wrote: Show me a person who's never been traumatized

This may be the one and only longest non-answer I've ever seen.

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 14:19:53 Reply

At 7/1/14 02:12 PM, Makakaov wrote:
At 7/1/14 02:07 PM, beakerboy wrote: Show me one.
You remind me of sister od Doug, from that cartoon. There was an episode when they were traveling somewhere and his sister wanted to stop at some piece of ground that was supossedly of artistic value. She was saying that in order to become a great artist you have to suffer. She was looking for drama where and when it wasn't needed. You're going that way. All people at some point are going to get traumatized. There's no need to look for that, becuase you will end hurting yourself on purpose in order to achieve smarts which will ave completly different effect.

honestly i've already been through more than enough stuff for one lifetime, what do i look for? well that's complicated, but what bothers me is others who have only been on cherry sweet rainbow rides their whole life and think STUPIDLY because of it. maybe sister od Doug has a point? Suffering + art makes sense to me


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 14:59:21 Reply

Better just copy/paste wikipedia about it. That'll show 'em.

Wow, this discussion is a wild ride.


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 15:04:33 Reply

At 7/1/14 02:59 PM, Phobotech wrote: Better just copy/paste wikipedia about it. That'll show 'em.

Wow, this discussion is a wild ride.

trauma is something your mind can't cope with. That's what the article said.


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 15:12:16 Reply

At 7/1/14 03:04 PM, beakerboy wrote: trauma is something your mind can't cope with. That's what the article said.

It's a great physical or mental stress on your body, not something the mind can't deal with. People can be traumatised after seeing something horrible, even if the events weren't real. I've had people come into my hospital seeking help after certain episodes of Game of Thrones (Red Wedding and THAT Oberyn episode), they were legitimately traumatised.

You don't need to have seen a family member burn alive in order to be traumatised, it happens to a lot of people over seemingly minute circumstances.

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 15:31:27 Reply

At 7/1/14 02:07 PM, beakerboy wrote: Show me one.

I mean you might be right but that's not a bad thing
Poeple who have a good life just don't NEEd to be smarter they have an easy life they never had to achieve self awareness or contemplate anything because they already had good things happening and there was no point.


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 15:35:09 Reply

Even if drop a name of a smart person on the table, will you be able to tell me if he was traumatized?
Fermat, here you go. Now prove me he was traumatized.


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 16:08:44 Reply

At 7/1/14 03:35 PM, SubparTony wrote: Even if drop a name of a smart person on the table, will you be able to tell me if he was traumatized?
Fermat, here you go. Now prove me he was traumatized.

prove me he is smart first.


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 16:10:51 Reply

At 7/1/14 03:31 PM, FaisalOrb wrote:
I mean you might be right but that's not a bad thing
Poeple who have a good life just don't NEEd to be smarter they have an easy life they never had to achieve self awareness or contemplate anything because they already had good things happening and there was no point.

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 16:11:12 Reply

You can be traumatized and still be p dumb

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 16:12:49 Reply

At 7/1/14 04:11 PM, Entice wrote: You can be traumatized and still be p dumb

BUT you can't be NOT traumatized and be SMART


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 16:14:33 Reply

At 7/1/14 03:12 PM, ChaRee wrote:
It's a great physical or mental stress on your body, not something the mind can't deal with. People can be traumatised after seeing something horrible, even if the events weren't real. I've had people come into my hospital seeking help after certain episodes of Game of Thrones (Red Wedding and THAT Oberyn episode), they were legitimately traumatised.

You don't need to have seen a family member burn alive in order to be traumatised, it happens to a lot of people over seemingly minute circumstances.

WRRRONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

you can't change a frucking definition. A definition is a definition and the definition I gave you is THE definition of Psychological Trauma


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 16:14:41 Reply

At 7/1/14 04:12 PM, beakerboy wrote: BUT you can't be NOT traumatized and be SMART

prove it fgt

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 16:15:35 Reply

Besides, a life without trauma is a life without experience. Whether they're stupid or smart hardly matters, all that will do is dictate how they handle the trauma that, one way or another, they'll inevitably experience.


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 16:40:09 Reply

At 7/1/14 04:14 PM, Entice wrote:
prove it fgt

no u

fgt

At 7/1/14 04:14 PM, Weeaboo wrote:
I can say he is smarter than you, at least.

prove me it me prove

At 7/1/14 04:15 PM, Phobotech wrote: Besides, a life without trauma is a life without experience. Whether they're stupid or smart hardly matters,

Mattress does matter though


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 19:19:07 Reply

At 7/1/14 02:19 PM, beakerboy wrote: honestly i've already been through more than enough stuff for one lifetime, what do i look for? well that's complicated, but what bothers me is others who have only been on cherry sweet rainbow rides their whole life and think STUPIDLY because of it. maybe sister od Doug has a point? Suffering + art makes sense to me

Dude, you're like 18. I can't really tell what you've been through, but you haven't gotten yourself into a really bad company involved in real crime (drugs, robberies, auto thefts), you haven't been pushed to take health risk decisions, your life hasn't been MAJORLY, DIRECTLY threatened, like in some terrorist attack, or being captured on a vacation on some foreign dangerous land. You have not ended up in some slums, addicted to heroine, desperate enough to prostitute yourself, or kill for more drugs. You have not yet touched a mere tip of iceberg of trauma that can happen to you in this world. This I can guarantee.

If you get bothered by others' stupidity, then you are stupid yourself. This is semi-intolerant and illogical.

Noone has been only "on cherry sweet rainbow rides their whole life". Everyone experienced something bad. And people actually can live their whole life in ponyville and be intelligent. Life experience makes people wiser, but still, life experience doesn't have to be traumatic. Bad things make people just more quiet, less hesitant and open to others. It's not intelligence, it's showing that life has thrown a saddle on your back and is ready to ride you.

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 19:23:56 Reply

At 7/1/14 04:14 PM, beakerboy wrote: WRRRONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

you can't change a frucking definition. A definition is a definition and the definition I gave you is THE definition of Psychological Trauma

The definition I give you if from all my medical textbooks. I'm a doctor, I'm much smarter than you about these things. :)

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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 19:38:38 Reply

At 7/1/14 07:23 PM, ChaRee wrote:
At 7/1/14 04:14 PM, beakerboy wrote: WRRRONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

you can't change a frucking definition. A definition is a definition and the definition I gave you is THE definition of Psychological Trauma
The definition I give you if from all my medical textbooks. I'm a doctor, I'm much smarter than you about these things. :)

omfg a smiley face must be a gril
what are u doing outside the kitchen? :)


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 19:41:07 Reply

At 7/1/14 07:38 PM, beakerboy wrote:
omfg a smiley face must be a gril
what are u doing outside the kitchen? :)

With every post you make, the more I feel like everything associated with your name is a waste of time. You're becoming very obnoxious.


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Response to smart ppl who never ben traumatized 2014-07-01 19:53:37 Reply

At 7/1/14 07:38 PM, beakerboy wrote: omfg a smiley face must be a gril
what are u doing outside the kitchen? :)

Fucking hoes, saving lives and making a fuckton of cash.