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At 6/28/14 03:31 AM, Vnzi wrote: People got fetishes, no reason to shame 'em unless they're getting kids or animals involved.

Slaves, as in they were taken form ther homes at ayoung age and fuck an made into slaves and then sold on the black market

goddamn it vnzi

At 6/28/14 03:35 AM, Vnzi wrote:

At 6/28/14 03:33 AM, SocialistClock wrote:

At 6/28/14 03:31 AM, Vnzi wrote: People got fetishes, no reason to shame 'em unless they're getting kids or animals involved.

Slaves, as in they were taken form there homes at a young age and fuck an made into slaves and then sold on the black market

Then that's a different issue.

Yes, it's extremely bad, I haven't heard of any cases where it has happened, but it's still something that's horrible to think about.

and it happens in America, Britain, Canada, Turkey, Russia. You can stop it. think about it. Raise Awareness dont submit

At 6/28/14 03:42 AM, Vnzi wrote:

At 6/28/14 03:37 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: goddamn it vnzi

im sorry my mind is 2 dirty 2 survive :'(

Hehe

At 6/28/14 03:37 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: goddamn it vnzi

has to be a troll

superghandi 2 i say

sex slavery should not exist at all, regardless of what country it's in

At 6/28/14 03:46 AM, Vnzi wrote:

At 6/28/14 03:44 AM, Loki wrote:
has to be a troll

superghandi 2 i say

I am basically ma1achi and the system has been broken into.

and teh issue at hand???

At 6/28/14 03:47 AM, SocialistClock wrote:

At 6/28/14 03:46 AM, Vnzi wrote:

At 6/28/14 03:44 AM, Loki wrote:
has to be a troll

superghandi 2 i say

I am basically ma1achi and the system has been broken into.

and teh issue at hand???

Real sex slavery is bad. I don't see what's to discus.

I mean you ask the question as though someone is seriously gonna reply with "I love sex slavery I think that if you get abducted and raped for the rest of your life you deserved it".

actually i heard those black market doctors provide good bang for their buck

maybe it's not so bad after all

Sex slavery is terrible, but it exists.

At 6/28/14 04:07 AM, NGPulp wrote: Sex slavery is terrible, but it exists.

/thread

At 6/28/14 04:19 AM, poinl wrote:

At 6/28/14 04:07 AM, NGPulp wrote: Sex slavery is terrible, but it exists.

/thread

and thats why it still exist's..

At 6/28/14 03:38 AM, SocialistClock wrote:

At 6/28/14 03:35 AM, Vnzi wrote: Yes, it's extremely bad, I haven't heard of any cases where it has happened, but it's still something that's horrible to think about.

and it happens in America, Britain, Canada, Turkey, Russia. You can stop it. think about it. Raise Awareness dont submit

Organizations and cartels that do stuff like that hardly ever get uncovered.
I think only domestic cases of forced sex slaves come sometimes to light and even there we are amazed to see how they hid it(see Fritzl case).

Organizations and cartels that do stuff like that hardly ever get uncovered.
I think only domestic cases of forced sex slaves come sometimes to light and even there we are amazed to see how they hid it(see Fritzl case).

THIS!,
Exactly raise awareness, This shit happens in your country stop it!

Know what a powerplant full of slaves produces?

Niiggawatt??

At 6/28/14 05:08 AM, SocialistClock wrote:

Organizations and cartels that do stuff like that hardly ever get uncovered.
I think only domestic cases of forced sex slaves come sometimes to light and even there we are amazed to see how they hid it(see Fritzl case).

THIS!,
Exactly raise awareness, This shit happens in your country stop it!

Yeah, we'll all just bond together with the power of friendship and rainbows. That will surely stop these violent criminal organizations. Does it make you feel good to believe ” raising awareness” means shit? It's slacktivism, you get the satisfaction of feeling like you're doing something good, while really doing absolutely nothing productive at all.

Human trafficking is a seious bussiness, but I heard average price for a slave from human traffic is 90 dollars. That tells us something about the supply and how easy is it to get such slave.

At 6/28/14 10:08 AM, Stretchysumo wrote: Yeah, we'll all just bond together with the power of friendship and rainbows. That will surely stop these violent criminal organizations. Does it make you feel good to believe ” raising awareness” means shit? It's slacktivism, you get the satisfaction of feeling like you're doing something good, while really doing absolutely nothing productive at all.

That's understandable, but recognition is the one of the first steps in solving a problem, it could only help.

I'll make to show everyone I know this thread!

Do you mean done willingly? I don't think that counts as slave work. Then again, I guess there are people who in theory could become slaves out of their own will, but I don't know if that's even possible.

At 6/28/14 05:08 AM, SocialistClock wrote: Exactly raise awareness, This shit happens in your country stop it!

I'm with your motives but honestly awareness is not going to change anything. The trafficking market is underground, international, and most importantly deals with a lot of money. The system has been in practice well into the beginning of civilization, so efforts are better spent on getting individuals out of it rather than trying to take on the whole entity of forced prostitution.

At 6/28/14 11:33 AM, Ericho wrote: Then again, I guess there are people who in theory could become slaves out of their own will, but I don't know if that's even possible.

Avg. entry age for girls I believe is 10-12; Avg. age for boys is 8-10. The people old enough and decide for themselves are essentially just considered prostitutes. Most slaves have been so for most of their life, and in places like south america and India at least, most slaves are children of other slaves.

At 6/28/14 11:36 AM, Emma wrote:

At 6/28/14 05:08 AM, SocialistClock wrote: Exactly raise awareness, This shit happens in your country stop it!

I'm with your motives but honestly awareness is not going to change anything.

you don't think making people understand it exists helps people identify and report it?

At 6/28/14 11:46 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 6/28/14 11:36 AM, Emma wrote:

At 6/28/14 05:08 AM, SocialistClock wrote: Exactly raise awareness, This shit happens in your country stop it!

I'm with your motives but honestly awareness is not going to change anything.

you don't think making people understand it exists helps people identify and report it?

No not really. It could help, but the vast majority of people with access to the victim are not going to report it, IMO. The market would adapt if their methods became more widely-known (in first world). This is actually a well-known fact in the countries hit hardest - but because of societal views of certain demographics (i.e.: the poor, lower cast), communities are generally complacent to the situation. Human trafficking in the Europe and the US is extremely sophisticated and the crime syndicates would not be greatly affected by people knowing about the situation, IMO.

At 6/28/14 11:55 AM, Emma wrote: not really. It could help, but the vast majority of people with access to the victim are not going to report it, IMO. The market would adapt if their methods became more widely-known (in first world). This is actually a well-known fact in the countries hit hardest - but because of societal views of certain demographics (i.e.: the poor, lower cast), communities are generally complacent to the situation. Human trafficking in the Europe and the US is extremely sophisticated and the crime syndicates would not be greatly affected by people knowing about the situation, IMO.

well making their efforts have to be more involved will only make it more difficult for them to manage their operation. these organizations are susceptible to making mistakes, it's possible people's acknowledgement of this industry's existence can actually assist investigative forces in sting operations.

not to underplay the sophistication of the mechanics, it's a very lucrative business, and the more professional organizations are not likely to be brought down by Joe Schmo taking out the trash.

What are you gonna do, make flyers?

At 6/28/14 12:15 PM, DragonTherapist wrote: What are you gonna do, make flyers?

exposès, articles, and regional reports of arrest are probably adequate enough

At 6/28/14 01:02 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 6/28/14 12:15 PM, DragonTherapist wrote: What are you gonna do, make flyers?

exposès, articles, and regional reports of arrest are probably adequate enough

One of the many issues with that is that people tend not to listen about such peripheral topics until some severe case has been brought to the public eye, and then they'll buzz about it for some time before forgetting about it as something else catches their attention.
As human trafficking is so discreet, it's highly unlikely that separate cases will be brought to light close enough together in time to string a public audience along. Things like bombings and school shootings happen or are attempted a couple times a year, so the public are widely aware of them.
I suppose I shouldn't compare it to the above examples, since they're so much easier to stop; their perpetrators are typically individuals or small cells. No, the human trafficking industry is more similar to the drug industry, which the general public is also widely aware of and the US government has also been actively combating for decades--with, rather unsurprisingly, little success.
Furthermore, drugs are newsworthy because they're considered "bad," but they're not so bad that people would refuse to believe in their circulation. The average citizen will repress knowledge of something as horrific as human trafficking and attempt to forget it, or simply tell themselves it isn't real. There are still reports, don't get me wrong, but the media will never refer to the problem as endemic.
As another note, people like drug busts. They're interesting and there are a lot of high measurements of value involved. People won't respond similarly to trafficking busts. Such news would only make them fear for their own safety and that's not the kind of topic the media prefers to dwell on as it makes people antsy.

You can go ahead and risk your very life trying to expose the issue, but know that you'd be doing it for a public which wouldn't want to hear what you're saying, and remember that the media will not back you up unless you personally crack open a big shipment full of human slaves. Good luck with that one.

At 6/28/14 01:44 PM, DragonTherapist wrote:

At 6/28/14 01:02 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 6/28/14 12:15 PM, DragonTherapist wrote: What are you gonna do, make flyers?

exposès, articles, and regional reports of arrest are probably adequate enough

One of the many issues with that is that people tend not to listen about such peripheral topics until some severe case has been brought to the public eye, and then they'll buzz about it for some time before forgetting about it as something else catches their attention.
As human trafficking is so discreet, it's highly unlikely that separate cases will be brought to light close enough together in time to string a public audience along. Things like bombings and school shootings happen or are attempted a couple times a year, so the public are widely aware of them.
I suppose I shouldn't compare it to the above examples, since they're so much easier to stop; their perpetrators are typically individuals or small cells. No, the human trafficking industry is more similar to the drug industry, which the general public is also widely aware of and the US government has also been actively combating for decades--with, rather unsurprisingly, little success.
Furthermore, drugs are newsworthy because they're considered "bad," but they're not so bad that people would refuse to believe in their circulation. The average citizen will repress knowledge of something as horrific as human trafficking and attempt to forget it, or simply tell themselves it isn't real. There are still reports, don't get me wrong, but the media will never refer to the problem as endemic.
As another note, people like drug busts. They're interesting and there are a lot of high measurements of value involved. People won't respond similarly to trafficking busts. Such news would only make them fear for their own safety and that's not the kind of topic the media prefers to dwell on as it makes people antsy.

You can go ahead and risk your very life trying to expose the issue, but know that you'd be doing it for a public which wouldn't want to hear what you're saying, and remember that the media will not back you up unless you personally crack open a big shipment full of human slaves. Good luck with that one.

It's not like most individuals have the ability to do something to directly rectify these problems, but shedding light on an issue is what generates enough attention to commit as many people to action as possible. You'd have a hard time convincing anyone that a heightened understanding of an issue in society doesn't translate to more response. That's why you find people committing their lives to address issues they feel are important.

I'd say without being personally affected, people would inherently be more emotionally connected to human trafficking than prevalent drug use. It's an easier issue to ignore, but may elicit a stronger response from those who'd feel obligated to policing the problem. You've never heard human trafficking being referred to as endemic in this country? It's dwarfed by other problems in public interest, but it's still a fairly reported issue that should be more addressed considering its significance. I'd also have a hard time believing people have a lesser reaction to people escaping sex slavery than they would to a sizable drug bust.

And just because most people would fear retribution doesn't mean people wouldn't risk their livelihood in order to help law enforcement address criminal activity. Not everyone has the same ethics, people risk their lives everyday to prevent others from enacting crimes against humanity.

People can only do so much. Problems like these cannot be eradicated without intruding on privacy, or programming out the impulses that generate these markets in the first place, but issues like these need a larger visual presence so people understand that these issues are bigger than they believe they are, and I don't see how heightened awareness of issues doesn't serve a purpose in addressing said issues.